Re: call for ideas: tail-heavy IETF process

2013-05-08 Thread Heather Flanagan (RFC Series Editor)
On 5/7/13 9:48 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: On 5/2/13 4:58 PM, Dave Crocker wrote: On 5/2/2013 3:25 PM, Jari Arkko wrote: But the delay was really not my main concern. Primarily because I think other issues such as transparency to the working group or late surprises are more fundamental

Re: call for ideas: tail-heavy IETF process

2013-05-08 Thread Jari Arkko
Heather, all, You are correct, Peter. MISSREF and AUTH48 are not part of the RFC Editor timed states, and the RFC Editor timed states have been largely under 7 weeks for the last year. Indeed. The actual time for what RFC Editor does for documents is quite short (and thank you and others at

Re: call for ideas: tail-heavy IETF process

2013-05-08 Thread Martin Rex
Olaf Kolkman wrote: Where things become difficult is at the point where the maintenance of our standards need to be explained and questions about progression on the standards ladder get asked. Personally I hope that RFC 6410 has the effect that we, as a community, get serious about

Re: APPSDIR review of draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6021-bis-01

2013-05-08 Thread S Moonesamy
At 01:32 30-04-2013, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: I am not sure what you think is unclear. Note that the definition of the typedef domain-name is unchanged from the one in RFC 6021. Perhaps you can make a concrete text change proposal so I better understand what your concern is. I read

Accessing tools from IETF pages

2013-05-08 Thread t . p .
I wanted to submit an I-D so I wanted to access the tools, as I have done before, so I clicked on 'IETF Tools' from http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/ and when that failed tried again with 'Tools Team Pages' from http://www.ietf.org/iesg/ with the same result. Can anyone else get to tools from that

Re: Accessing tools from IETF pages

2013-05-08 Thread Elwyn Davies
Both links work just fine from a selection of browsers/os/machines other than Msoft. (Firefox, Evolution, Chrome) It also works on an old version of IE8 but reports errors. Presumably turning off some strict error checking in IE allows it to display. Running the page through the W3C HTML

Re: Accessing tools from IETF pages

2013-05-08 Thread Dale R. Worley
From: t.p. daedu...@btconnect.com I wanted to submit an I-D so I wanted to access the tools, as I have done before, so I clicked on 'IETF Tools' from http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/ and when that failed tried again with 'Tools Team Pages' from http://www.ietf.org/iesg/ with the same

Re: APPSDIR review of draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6021-bis-01

2013-05-08 Thread Randy Bush
The domain-name type represents a DNS domain name. The name SHOULD be fully qualified whenever possible. That sounds like a MAY. MAY != SHOULD

Re: APPSDIR review of draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6021-bis-01

2013-05-08 Thread S Moonesamy
At 12:53 08-05-2013, Randy Bush wrote: MAY != SHOULD The text is as follows: The name SHOULD be fully qualified whenever possible. If the working group would like a RFC 2119 SHOULD it would help if there is an explanation in the sentence for the reader weigh the implications of not

Re: APPSDIR review of draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6021-bis-01

2013-05-08 Thread Joe Abley
On 2013-05-08, at 17:30, S Moonesamy sm+i...@elandsys.com wrote: At 12:53 08-05-2013, Randy Bush wrote: MAY != SHOULD The text is as follows: The name SHOULD be fully qualified whenever possible. If the working group would like a RFC 2119 SHOULD it would help if there is an explanation

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