Re: Ah, I see the cause of the situation now... (tls-authz situation)

2009-02-10 Thread Alex Loret de Mola
in the future, especially now that I've finally worked up the courage to post on the list at all. Sincerely, Alex Loret de Mola On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Melinda Shore wrote: > On 2/10/09 4:48 PM, "Alex Loret de Mola" wrote: >> What I don't want to see

Re: Ah, I see the cause of the situation now... (tls-authz situation)

2009-02-10 Thread Alex Loret de Mola
prefer not to accuse someone of patronization unless it becomes clear that such is the case. In that light, I propose that we give them the benefit of the doubt and see if they take those more productive routes the next time around. Certainly it would be in their own be

Re: Ah, I see the cause of the situation now... (tls-authz situation)

2009-02-10 Thread Alex Loret de Mola
bly resolved for the benefit of all interested parties. Sincerely, Alex Loret de Mola On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Ole Jacobsen wrote: > > To paraphrase you: > > "Because these people are clueless and have no idea how the IETF > works, it is perfectly proper to mislead

Ah, I see the cause of the situation now... (tls-authz situation)

2009-02-10 Thread Alex Loret de Mola
ce for them to make statements. Sincerely, Alex Loret de Mola ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf

Letter sent to FSF, needs a follow-up...

2009-02-10 Thread Alex Loret de Mola
y as opposed to in the general list, however that currently seems to not be possible. Is there any course of action I can advise in my follow-up E-Mail, or can they still go to the TLS working group with their concerns (if they feel the desire to do so)? Sincerely, Alex Loret de Mola Lea

Re: how to contact the IETF

2009-02-09 Thread Alex Loret de Mola
ours in the day from 24 to 36 or more. ;) I'll be back later to resume discussion and contact the FSF if someone else hasn't already. Sincerely, Alex Loret de Mola On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Stephen Kent wrote: > Alex, > > The conclusion I draw from this exp

Re: how to contact the IETF

2009-02-09 Thread Alex Loret de Mola
rson stuck around afterwards > to actually initiate a dialog. It was all a one-way blast of > "communication", a monologue if you will. And a not very useful one; > it was either ignored or caused a reaction in the direction opposite > to the lobbied one. > > On 2/9/09,

Re: how to contact the IETF

2009-02-09 Thread Alex Loret de Mola
y on this and future discussions. While I hear your proposition that this isn't going to happen, Noel, I don't think that should just be immediately assumed merely based on the origins of where those coming in here first heard about the issue. That seems like a large net to cast. Sincerely, Al

Re: how to contact the IETF

2009-02-09 Thread Alex Loret de Mola
initely have the greatest possibility of being productive (both in the short and long term). Sincerely, Alex Loret de Mola Lead Software Engineer, iScan Services On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Ofer Inbar wrote: > Alex Loret de Mola wrote: >> Dear Carsten: (And others who feel upset a

Re: Ietf Digest, Vol 9, Issue 25

2009-02-09 Thread Alex Loret de Mola
most people (myself included) who cannot come to the twice yearly in-person meetings, this mailing list is the best most people will likely ever get. Sincerely, Alex Loret de Mola Lead Software Engineer, iScan Services ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf

Regarding Transport Layer Security (TLS) Authorization Extensions

2009-02-09 Thread Alex Loret de Mola
Fellow members of the IETF: I would like to add my voice to those who have expressed discontent in the proposed TLS Authorization Extensions. The use of a Patented standard (especially one that may have such patents legally enforced, as in the case of RedPhone) appears to me to be in violation of