RE: Withdrawal of Approval and Second Last Call: draft-housley-tls-authz-extns

2007-04-26 Thread Mark Brown
to work this out, but I will need some clear and direct feedback to get it right. Best regards, mark -Original Message- From: John C Klensin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 11:23 AM To: Mark Brown; 'Simon Josefsson' Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ietf@ietf.org

RE: Withdrawal of Approval and Second Last Call: draft-housley-tls-authz-extns

2007-04-26 Thread Mark Brown
John, I should have responded in my last email: I think you are being told --by a number of people and in different ways-- that there is a perception that having to ask for a license is seen as appreciably more burdensome and, for various reasons, risky than if a general license is granted

RE: Withdrawal of Approval and Second Last Call: draft-housley-tls-authz-extns

2007-04-25 Thread Mark Brown
Hi Simon, It would be useful if you could explore with your lawyers if it is actually easy for you to avoid problem (1). I'm wondering what exactly the requirement for implementers to request this license from you gives you. Your text suggest that you will never refuse to grant the rights

RE: Withdrawal of Approval and Second Last Call: draft-housley-tls-authz-extns

2007-04-04 Thread Mark Brown
. Here's what I was told by IESG: The IESG has been informed by Mark Brown that he had knowledge of the September 2005 patent application filed by his employer at the time he submitted draft-housley-tls-authz-extns. Accordingly, he was obligated to disclose the existence of this patent

RE: Withdrawal of Approval and Second Last Call: draft-housley-tls-authz-extns

2007-04-04 Thread Mark Brown
Harald, I want to apologize again for screwing up the IPR disclosure process. Normal IPR disclosure process is to alert the IETF community via the IETF website that a patent has been filed. I mistakenly thought that adding the boilerplate IPR statement at the top of the ID was sufficient to

RE: Withdrawal of Approval and Second Last Call: draft-housley-tls-authz-extns

2007-03-30 Thread Mark Brown
Simon, I filed for patent (Jan and Sep 2005) and later promoted TLS authz (Feb 2006) in good faith. It is possible that the patent claims can be read more broadly than I expected, but that's a fairly detailed and unresolved legal question. I am working diligently to -- let me speak carefully --