At 10:02 AM 3/28/2013, John C Klensin wrote:
For me, it seems especially odd when
compared to the liaison position to the ICANN Board. Both are
very important to the IETF community. Both involve
organizations with which the IETF has a complicated and
multidimensional relationship. Both
At 01:14 AM 3/29/2013, David Kessens wrote:
Mike,
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 09:03:25PM -0400, Michael StJohns wrote:
The process for selecting and appointing liaisons is the purview of the
IAB and not currently subject to external review - and I don't find any
problem with that.
I fully agree
On 29/03/2013 07:33, Michael StJohns wrote:
At 01:14 AM 3/29/2013, David Kessens wrote:
Mike,
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 09:03:25PM -0400, Michael StJohns wrote:
The process for selecting and appointing liaisons is the purview of the
IAB and not currently subject to external review - and I
David
In this particular case the candidate pool would have been tiny,
because the criteria would surely have included being experienced
with both the ITU process and the IETF liaison process, including
knowing and understanding the liaison history. Therefore it
seems unlikely that there would
--On Thursday, March 28, 2013 13:13 + Stewart Bryant
stbry...@cisco.com wrote:
David
In this particular case the candidate pool would have been
tiny, because the criteria would surely have included being
experienced with both the ITU process and the IETF liaison
process, including
Stewart,
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 01:13:44PM +, Stewart Bryant wrote:
In this particular case the candidate pool would have been tiny,
because the criteria would surely have included being experienced
with both the ITU process and the IETF liaison process, including
knowing and
Smoke filled rooms
Irrespectively Yours,
John
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Subject: Re: Appointment of Scott Mansfield as new
On 3/28/13 5:13 AM, Stewart Bryant wrote:
Therefore it
seems unlikely that there would be any candidate that the IAB
did not already know about. So whilst I agree in general,
this is not a case that should raise any concerns.
Wow.
Allow me to suggest that even if you think this is true,
On Mar 27, 2013, at 22:26, David Kessens david.kess...@nsn.com wrote:
Recently, there has been a lot of discussion in the IETF about diversity.
Is it just me or is the liaison manager for the politically tempestuous ITU-T
relationship really about the worst possible position to exercise this
On 3/28/2013 6:13 AM, Stewart Bryant wrote:
In this particular case the candidate pool would have been tiny,
because the criteria would surely have included being experienced
with both the ITU process and the IETF liaison process, including
knowing and understanding the liaison history.
--On Thursday, March 28, 2013 18:28 +0100 Carsten Bormann
c...@tzi.org wrote:
On Mar 27, 2013, at 22:26, David Kessens
david.kess...@nsn.com wrote:
Recently, there has been a lot of discussion in the IETF
about diversity.
Is it just me or is the liaison manager for the politically
That was the British use of the term unlikely.
Stewart
Sent from my iPad
On 28 Mar 2013, at 14:05, Dave Crocker d...@dcrocker.net wrote:
On 3/28/2013 6:13 AM, Stewart Bryant wrote:
In this particular case the candidate pool would have been tiny,
because the criteria would surely have
The IETF and various members occasionally break out in back seat driver's
syndrome. It's disappointing.
We need to remember that we are organized more as a republic than a democracy.
We select various folks through the Nomcom process to make decisions on various
things. E.g.. the IESG for
On 3/28/2013 6:03 PM, Michael StJohns wrote:
Seriously - can we stop second guessing the IESG, IAB and IAOC on everything?
That's not what's being done, Mike, and such hyperbole doesn't
facilitate meaningful exchange.
There have been two exceptions raised -- one about diversity and this
Mike,
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 09:03:25PM -0400, Michael StJohns wrote:
The process for selecting and appointing liaisons is the purview of the
IAB and not currently subject to external review - and I don't find any
problem with that.
I fully agree with this.
All I am asking for is a call
Russ, Jari, IAB,
Recently, there has been a lot of discussion in the IETF about diversity.
A lot of people observed that the IETF is not good in fostering a culture
that naturally promotes diversity and that is attractive for younger people
to join. One way to make the IETF more accessible and
The IAB has just notified the ITU-T that Scott mansfield will be the new IETF
Liaison Manager to the ITU-T.
Please congratulate Scott when you see him. He has done a good job as liaison
manager for MPLS, and I am sure he will do a good job in his new role.
Please thank Eliot Lear for his past
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