Re: Central registries (was RE: Chinese IPv9)

2004-07-20 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 14:28:37 EDT, Michael Richardson said: > Even if they do not result in efficiencies in the routing table, I > think they would go a long way to making people happy. If you want to make people happy by promising technically infeasible solutions, I suggest a career in politics

Re: Central registries (was RE: Chinese IPv9)

2004-07-20 Thread Michael Richardson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > "Nathaniel" == Nathaniel Borenstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Nathaniel> Christian -- Your mesage seems to presume rather Nathaniel> optimistically that there can be a workable technical Nathaniel> alternative to central registries. If not -

Re: Central registries (was RE: Chinese IPv9)

2004-07-20 Thread Nathaniel Borenstein
Christian -- Your mesage seems to presume rather optimistically that there can be a workable technical alternative to central registries. If not -- and I'm skeptical -- your "stop digging" advice might translate into "stop improving the net." At the very least, it's an open question whether it

Re: Chinese IPv9

2004-07-19 Thread grenville armitage
"JFC (Jefsey) Morfin" wrote: [..] > - We need a multilingual multinational root matrix. instead I think we're going to be getting a root canal. gja ___ Ietf mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf

Re: Chinese IPv9

2004-07-19 Thread JFC (Jefsey) Morfin
At 23:52 16/07/04, Paul Vixie wrote: One way of reading these tea leaves is to say that ICANN hasn't been seen as truly open, truly inclusive, or truly independent. "Lapdog of the US-DoC" was one critic's description. Speaking as an early adopter of Vint's and Jon's philosophy of openness/inclusi

Central registries (was RE: Chinese IPv9)

2004-07-19 Thread Christian Huitema
Paul, this IPv9 hoopla strikes me as another research project harping the nationalistic chord in order to get funding. This is not exactly news. It was a common undertone in many European research proposals in the 1980's and 1990's, and it is also a classic line in NSF or DARPA proposals. The offic

Re: Chinese IPv9

2004-07-19 Thread Paul Vixie
> ... Why doesn't this group join hand to insure full exploitation of IPv6? based on http://www.chinatechnews.com/index.php?action=show&type=news&id=1405, i'd say that the answer to that question is implied by the following quote: China and the United States are currently the only two cou

Re: Chinese IPv9

2004-07-07 Thread JFC (Jefsey) Morfin
At 17:48 06/07/04, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Tony Hain" writes: >Sitting here in Seoul, Janet Sun (BII) said this is self-promotion of a >single researcher looking to improve his funding. There is technical >content, but no business content and the service providers

RE: Chinese IPv9

2004-07-07 Thread Soohong Daniel Park
ECTED] > Behalf Of Masataka Ohta > Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 12:37 PM > To: Tony Hain > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Bill Manning' > Subject: Re: Chinese IPv9 > > > Tony Hain wrote: > > > There is technical > > content, but no business

Re: Chinese IPv9

2004-07-06 Thread Masataka Ohta
Tony Hain wrote: > There is technical > content, but no business content and the service providers are ignoring it > as a waste of time. So, it's almost identical to IPv6. Masataka Ohta ___ Iet

RE: Chinese IPv9

2004-07-06 Thread Joseph C. Mushi
> From: "Tony Hain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > There is technical content, but no business content and the service > providers are ignoring it as a waste of time. I think we still have many areas within IPv6 that need more researches and concentration. Why doesn't this group join hand to insure full e

Re: Chinese IPv9

2004-07-06 Thread James Seng
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Chinese IPv9 % Complete compilation of news at http://www.ist- ipv6.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=622 % % But I guess is an hoax ? % the site seems to be missing some of the chinese language repo

Re: Chinese IPv9

2004-07-06 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Tony Hain" writes: >Sitting here in Seoul, Janet Sun (BII) said this is self-promotion of a >single researcher looking to improve his funding. There is technical >content, but no business content and the service providers are ignoring it >as a waste of time. Think o

Re: Chinese IPv9

2004-07-06 Thread James Seng
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Chinese IPv9 % Complete compilation of news at http://www.ist- ipv6.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=622 % % But I guess is an hoax ? % the site seems to be missing some of the chinese language repo

RE: Chinese IPv9

2004-07-06 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: "Tony Hain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > There is technical content, but no business content and the service > providers are ignoring it as a waste of time. Sounds like an apt description for some other IPvN efforts... :-) Noel __

RE: Chinese IPv9

2004-07-05 Thread Tony Hain
nal Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Bill Manning > Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 6:10 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Chinese IPv9 > > % Complete compilation of news at http://www.ist- > ipv6.o

Re: Chinese IPv9

2004-07-05 Thread Bill Manning
% Complete compilation of news at http://www.ist-ipv6.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=622 % % But I guess is an hoax ? % the site seems to be missing some of the chinese language reports... :) and based on (imho) more informed sources, this is not a

Re: Chinese IPv9

2004-07-05 Thread Michael Thomas
riginal Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 5:05 PM > Subject: RE: Chinese IPv9 > > > > See also: > > > > http://www.chinatechnews.com/index.php?action=show&type=news&id

Re: Chinese IPv9

2004-07-05 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Complete compilation of news at http://www.ist-ipv6.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=622 But I guess is an hoax ? - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 5:05 PM Subject: RE: C

RE: Chinese IPv9

2004-07-05 Thread Gordon . Lennox
July 05, 2004 3:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Chinese IPv9 Hi, a german computer magazine reported that China is developing their own IP address scheme as IPv9 ( http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/48859 ) in order to improve "security" (probably spelled: censorship

Chinese IPv9

2004-07-05 Thread hadmut
Hi, a german computer magazine reported that China is developing their own IP address scheme as IPv9 ( http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/48859 ) in order to improve "security" (probably spelled: censorship). They cite http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2004-07/05/content_1572719.htm It is to