RE: DHCP failures (was RE: Do you want to have more meetingsoutside US ?)

2007-08-02 Thread Eastlake III Donald-LDE008
Klensin Cc: Iljitsch van Beijnum; ietf@ietf.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: DHCP failures (was RE: Do you want to have more meetingsoutside US ?) On Jul 31, 2007, at 6:30 PM, John C Klensin wrote: And, while I'm picking on DHCP because I personally had more problems with it, I see IPv6

Re: DHCP failures (was RE: Do you want to have more meetings outside US ?)

2007-08-02 Thread Dave Crocker
Bob Hinden wrote: It was also interesting to open the Mac network control pannel, enable my Airport (WLAN) interface, and see the IPv6 global address appear almost instantaneously and in many case having to wait many seconds to minutes for DHCP provided IPv4 address to appear. Any chance

Re: DHCP failures (was RE: Do you want to have more meetings outside US ?)

2007-08-02 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 2-aug-2007, at 21:17, Dave Crocker wrote: It was also interesting to open the Mac network control pannel, enable my Airport (WLAN) interface, and see the IPv6 global address appear almost instantaneously and in many case having to wait many seconds to minutes for DHCP provided IPv4

Re: DHCP failures

2007-08-02 Thread Sam Hartman
Iljitsch == Iljitsch van Beijnum [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Iljitsch On 2-aug-2007, at 21:17, Dave Crocker wrote: It was also interesting to open the Mac network control pannel, enable my Airport (WLAN) interface, and see the IPv6 global address appear almost instantaneously

Re: DHCP failures (was RE: Do you want to have more meetings outside US ?)

2007-08-01 Thread Douglas Otis
On Jul 31, 2007, at 6:30 PM, John C Klensin wrote: And, while I'm picking on DHCP because I personally had more problems with it, I see IPv6 authconfig as being exactly the same issue: we are telling the world that these things work and they should be using them; if we can't make them

Re: DHCP failures (was RE: Do you want to have more meetings outside US ?)

2007-08-01 Thread Bill Fenner
A good start would be explaining what exactly went wrong with the DHCP server(s) this time. We have a problem and we're working on it is not all that helpful. I wasn't directly involved in debugging this, but this is what I gathered from later discussions: The bottom line seemed to be a

DHCP failures (was RE: Do you want to have more meetings outside US ?)

2007-07-31 Thread Tony Hain
JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: ... The poor network infrastructure is not only a question of the links. It is a question of having a good or bad network, like the problem that we had all this week with the DHCP. Having a good link the network was still unusable 60% of the time. I had no

Re: DHCP failures (was RE: Do you want to have more meetings outside US ?)

2007-07-31 Thread Marc Manthey
On Aug 1, 2007, at 12:40 AM, Tony Hain wrote: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: ... The poor network infrastructure is not only a question of the links. It is a question of having a good or bad network, like the problem that we had all this week with the DHCP. Having a good link the network

Re: DHCP failures (was RE: Do you want to have more meetings outside US ?)

2007-07-31 Thread John C Klensin
--On Tuesday, 31 July, 2007 15:40 -0700 Tony Hain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: ... The poor network infrastructure is not only a question of the links. It is a question of having a good or bad network, like the problem that we had all this week with the DHCP.

Re: DHCP failures (was RE: Do you want to have more meetings outside US ?)

2007-07-31 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 1-aug-2007, at 0:59, John C Klensin wrote: Almost independent of the IPv6 autoconfig issues, I find it deeply troubling that we seem to be unable to both * get the ducks lined up to run IPv6 fully and smoothly, with and without local/auto config. IPv6 worked pretty well

Re: DHCP failures (was RE: Do you want to have more meetings outside US ?)

2007-07-31 Thread Bob Hinden
John, Almost independent of the IPv6 autoconfig issues, I find it deeply troubling that we seem to be unable to both * get the ducks lined up to run IPv6 fully and smoothly, with and without local/auto config. * get a DHCP arrangement (IPv4 and, for those who

Re: DHCP failures (was RE: Do you want to have more meetings outside US ?)

2007-07-31 Thread John C Klensin
--On Wednesday, 01 August, 2007 01:14 +0200 Iljitsch van Beijnum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * get a DHCP arrangement (IPv4 and, for those who want to use it, IPv6) that performs reliably, consistently, and largely invisibly (if I have to worry about what a DHCP server is