Re: Example of dns (non) fun iv

2000-12-06 Thread Henning G. Schulzrinne
John C Klensin wrote: > > --On Wednesday, 06 December, 2000 10:22 -0500 Dan Kolis > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Dan K says: > > 1) your right. with your tld .de I assume for the moment you > > also speak German. The difference is what you 'try' when a url > > doesn't work. If you tried: > >

Re: Example of dns (non) fun iv

2000-12-06 Thread John C Klensin
--On Wednesday, 06 December, 2000 10:22 -0500 Dan Kolis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dan K says: > 1) your right. with your tld .de I assume for the moment you > also speak German. The difference is what you 'try' when a url > doesn't work. If you tried: > > http://ßrehct.de > > and it didn't wor

Example of dns (non) fun iv

2000-12-06 Thread Dan Kolis
Claus said: >> http://www.déjà.fr/ >> http://www.deja.fr/ >This is really not new at all. Today, we do already have domains that >are very similar: foobar.com vs. foo-bar.com vs. foobarr.com vs. ... >foobar.com vs. foobár.com is not much different. >Claus Dan K says: 1) your right. with your

RE: Example of dns (non) fun

2000-12-05 Thread Dassa
long. Dassa |>-Original Message- |>From: Stephen Dyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] |>Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 9:14 PM |>To: vint cerf; Richard Shockey; Dan Kolis; [EMAIL PROTECTED] |>Subject: Re: Example of dns (non) fun |> |> |>Hi, |> |>There is also a

Re: Example of dns (non) fun

2000-12-05 Thread Stephen Dyer
Hi, There is also an interesting legal problem lurking with http://www.deja.fr/ and http://www.bq--aduwvya.fr/ A court might find me guilty of trademark violation of "deja" with the first URL, but I can't see them upholding the same for "bq--aduwvya" Steve Dyer At 03:37 05/12/2000 -0500, v

Re: Example of dns (non) fun

2000-12-05 Thread vint cerf
from a purely mechanical point of view, if the character encoding of these two strings makes them distinct, one might have to treat them as distinct registrations - unless a very mechanical means of converting them both into some canonical form were available to make them "match" - one would imag

Re: Example of dns (non) fun

2000-12-04 Thread Richard Shockey
At 05:00 PM 12/4/2000 -0500, Dan Kolis wrote: >In the present regime, its not surprising the frist below does not resolve >and the second does: > >http://www.déjà.fr/ >http://www.deja.fr/ > > >In the proposed regime, its not obvious what to do from a purely consumer >point of view. Depends on who

Re: Example of dns (non) fun

2000-12-04 Thread Karl Auerbach
> actually your urls could be: > > http://www.bq--aduwvya.fr/ > http://www.deja.fr/ > > a application may render the bq--aduwvya.fr as déjà.fr or it may not. > Finally it would be up to the URDP process or the courts as to *if* the > two domains are the same. We shouldn't worry what the URD

Re: Example of dns (non) fun

2000-12-04 Thread John C Klensin
I suggest you look in on the IDN working group, review their documents if you have not done so, and then take this discussion up on theiir mailing list if you aren't satisfied with the answers you get. john --- --On Monday, December 04, 2000 5:00 PM -0500 Dan Kolis <[EMAIL P

Re: Example of dns (non) fun

2000-12-04 Thread Rick H Wesson
Dan, actually your urls could be: http://www.bq--aduwvya.fr/ http://www.deja.fr/ a application may render the bq--aduwvya.fr as déjà.fr or it may not. Finally it would be up to the URDP process or the courts as to *if* the two domains are the same. We shouldn't worry what the URDP or the c

Example of dns (non) fun

2000-12-04 Thread Dan Kolis
In the present regime, its not surprising the frist below does not resolve and the second does: http://www.déjà.fr/ http://www.deja.fr/ In the proposed regime, its not obvious what to do from a purely consumer point of view. Verisigns view would be each is completely unique. ICANN's dispute res