Re: FW: Affirmation of the Modern Global Standards Paradigm

2012-08-15 Thread Eliot Lear
John, On 8/15/12 12:03 AM, John E Drake wrote: Hi, Does this document actually have a purpose, and if so, what is it? To me (and I speak only for me here), the purpose of this document is to articulate principles that have made the Internet a success. It is a means to invite

Re: FW: Affirmation of the Modern Global Standards Paradigm

2012-08-15 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 15/08/2012 07:24, Eliot Lear wrote: John, On 8/15/12 12:03 AM, John E Drake wrote: Hi, Does this document actually have a purpose, and if so, what is it? To me (and I speak only for me here), the purpose of this document is to articulate principles that have made the Internet a

RE: FW: Affirmation of the Modern Global Standards Paradigm

2012-08-15 Thread John E Drake
Comment inline Sent from my iPhone -Original Message- From: Brian E Carpenter [mailto:brian.e.carpen...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 12:00 AM To: Eliot Lear Cc: John E Drake; i...@iab.org; ietf@ietf.org Subject: Re: FW: Affirmation of the Modern Global Standards

RE: FW: Affirmation of the Modern Global Standards Paradigm

2012-08-15 Thread John E Drake
Sent from my iPhone From: Eliot Lear [mailto:l...@cisco.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 11:25 PM To: John E Drake Cc: i...@iab.org; ietf@ietf.org Subject: Re: FW: Affirmation of the Modern Global Standards Paradigm John, On 8/15/12 12:03 AM, John E Drake wrote: Hi, Does this document

Re: FW: Affirmation of the Modern Global Standards Paradigm

2012-08-15 Thread Eliot Lear
Hi John, On 8/15/12 2:15 PM, John E Drake wrote: To me (and I speak only for me here), the purpose of this document is to articulate principles that have made the Internet a success. JD: This seems a bit presumptuous to me. It's an assertion. I wouldn't claim, by the way, that

Re: FW: Affirmation of the Modern Global Standards Paradigm

2012-08-15 Thread Marie-France Berny
Brian, let be candid. The text of Bernard Adoba (Microsoft) is 100% in line with the Microsoft political line broadly publish under cover of Human Rights as the Global Network Initiative (http://www.globalnetworkinitiative.org/). Since the co-founder/influencer of GNI is Google (with Yahoo!) also

Re: FW: Affirmation of the Modern Global Standards Paradigm

2012-08-15 Thread Marie-France Berny
Sorry for sending the mail too fast. I finish it. 2012/8/15 Marie-France Berny mfbe...@gmail.com Brian, let be candid. The text of Bernard Adoba (Microsoft) is 100% in line with the Microsoft political line broadly publish under cover of Human Rights as the Global Network Initiative

RE: FW: Affirmation of the Modern Global Standards Paradigm

2012-08-15 Thread John E Drake
: Re: FW: Affirmation of the Modern Global Standards Paradigm Hi John, On 8/15/12 2:15 PM, John E Drake wrote: To me (and I speak only for me here), the purpose of this document is to articulate principles that have made the Internet a success. JD: This seems a bit presumptuous to me. It's

Re: FW: Affirmation of the Modern Global Standards Paradigm

2012-08-15 Thread Abdussalam Baryun
Hi John, Does this document actually have a purpose, and if so, what is it? IMO the document introduces important statements (purpose and objectives) so that other organisations and SDOs recognise while interacting with IETF. It may look simple or known, but necessary for IETF future

RE: FW: Affirmation of the Modern Global Standards Paradigm

2012-08-15 Thread John E Drake
for MPLS-TP. Thanks, John Sent from my iPhone From: Abdussalam Baryun [mailto:abdussalambar...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 6:29 AM To: John E Drake Cc: ietf Subject: Re: FW: Affirmation of the Modern Global Standards Paradigm Hi John, Does this document actually have a purpose

Re: FW: Affirmation of the Modern Global Standards Paradigm

2012-08-15 Thread Abdussalam Baryun
for MPLS-TP. ** ** Thanks, ** ** John ** ** Sent from my iPhone ** ** *From:* Abdussalam Baryun [mailto:abdussalambar...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, August 15, 2012 6:29 AM *To:* John E Drake *Cc:* ietf *Subject:* Re: FW: Affirmation of the Modern Global Standards

RE: FW: Affirmation of the Modern Global Standards Paradigm

2012-08-15 Thread John E Drake
: Abdussalam Baryun [mailto:abdussalambar...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 6:57 AM To: John E Drake Cc: ietf; i...@iab.org Subject: Re: FW: Affirmation of the Modern Global Standards Paradigm John, Could you suggest a solution to this issue or an additional statements to the document

FW: Affirmation of the Modern Global Standards Paradigm

2012-08-14 Thread John E Drake
Hi, Does this document actually have a purpose, and if so, what is it? Thanks, John Sent from my iPhone From: ietf-announce-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-announce-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of IAB Chair Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 7:19 PM To: ietf-annou...@ietf.org Subject: Affirmation