Re: How many IP addresses?

2000-04-25 Thread Keith Moore
> Doesn't this leave out a few pieces of data? Given the current IPv6 > address format, which includes a globally unique 64 bit interface ID and 64 > bits of globally unique routing goop. My calculation is that you only have > 2^64 addresses to work with which leaves roughly 12 bits, maybe 14 to

Re: How many IP addresses?

2000-04-25 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
In message , Timothy Behne writ es: >Also, I dont see how you got 25*10^9 * 1000 * 10 = 25*10^9. Should be >25*10^13. This requires log(25*10^13)/log(2), or 48 bits, to use every >address. So the original answer (80 bits left over) was correct, an

RE: How many IP addresses?

2000-04-25 Thread Timothy Behne
25, 2000 10:02 AM To: Steven M. Bellovin; Graham Klyne Cc: Richard Shockey; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: How many IP addresses? At 9:41 -0400 4/25/00, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: >In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Graham >Klyne wri >tes: >>At 11:06 PM 4/23/00 -0500, Richard S

RE: How many IP addresses?

2000-04-25 Thread Tripp Lilley
On Tue, 25 Apr 2000, Michael B. Bellopede wrote: > >wrong idea -- big iron routers don't use "code" to do forwarding, they use > >silicon, and very fast silicon at that. There are routers in production > >--Steve Bellovin > > Software, firmware, its a matter of semantics. Do yo

Re: How many IP addresses?

2000-04-25 Thread John Day
At 9:41 -0400 4/25/00, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: >In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Graham >Klyne wri >tes: >>At 11:06 PM 4/23/00 -0500, Richard Shockey wrote: >>>With "always on" IP and IP on anything this is closer to reality than we >>>might think. In order to permit a reasonable allocation of ad

Re: How many IP addresses?

2000-04-25 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Mi chael B. Bellopede" writes: > > > >> But we have to engineer this in some fashion that >>permits efficient use of these addresses by hosts and (especially) routers. >>(An earlier poster wrote that you "just have to write the code". That's >the >>wrong idea --

RE: How many IP addresses?

2000-04-25 Thread Michael B. Bellopede
> But we have to engineer this in some fashion that >permits efficient use of these addresses by hosts and (especially) routers. >(An earlier poster wrote that you "just have to write the code". That's the >wrong idea -- big iron routers don't use "code" to do forwarding, they use >silicon, a

Re: How many IP addresses?

2000-04-25 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Graham Klyne wri tes: >At 11:06 PM 4/23/00 -0500, Richard Shockey wrote: >>With "always on" IP and IP on anything this is closer to reality than we >>might think. In order to permit a reasonable allocation of addresses with >>room for growth the idea of 25 IP addr

How many IP addresses?

2000-04-25 Thread Graham Klyne
At 11:06 PM 4/23/00 -0500, Richard Shockey wrote: >With "always on" IP and IP on anything this is closer to reality than we >might think. In order to permit a reasonable allocation of addresses with >room for growth the idea of 25 IP address per household and 10 person >actually seems conservat