Re: I-D ACTION:draft-narten-iana-considerations-rfc2434bis-02.txt

2005-07-23 Thread john . loughney
Paul, That seems like the most resonable approach to me. Are current requests archived now? John -- original message -- Subject:Re: I-D ACTION:draft-narten-iana-considerations-rfc2434bis-02.txt From: Paul Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 07/22/2005 11:03 pm At 3:51 PM

Re: I-D ACTION:draft-narten-iana-considerations-rfc2434bis-02.txt

2005-07-22 Thread Harald Tveit Alvestrand
--On fredag, juli 22, 2005 00:27:25 +0200 Brian E Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sam, I would think that the purpose of a Last Call as part of IESG review would primarily be not to evaluate success or failure, but to be sure that the IESG has an opportunity to hear, from the community,

Re: I-D ACTION:draft-narten-iana-considerations-rfc2434bis-02.txt

2005-07-22 Thread Sam Hartman
BTW, this conversation and a side conversation with John has convinced me that IESG review should involve a call for comments phase. ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf

Re: I-D ACTION:draft-narten-iana-considerations-rfc2434bis-02.txt

2005-07-22 Thread Bill Sommerfeld
On Fri, 2005-07-22 at 07:35, Sam Hartman wrote: BTW, this conversation and a side conversation with John has convinced me that IESG review should involve a call for comments phase. A call for comments requires having something for the community to comment on. Will an internet draft will be

Re: I-D ACTION:draft-narten-iana-considerations-rfc2434bis-02.txt

2005-07-22 Thread Paul Hoffman
At 3:51 PM -0400 7/22/05, Bill Sommerfeld wrote: On Fri, 2005-07-22 at 07:35, Sam Hartman wrote: BTW, this conversation and a side conversation with John has convinced me that IESG review should involve a call for comments phase. A call for comments requires having something for the

Re: I-D ACTION:draft-narten-iana-considerations-rfc2434bis-02.txt

2005-07-21 Thread Sam Hartman
John == John C Klensin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John --On Wednesday, 20 July, 2005 07:03 -0400 Sam Hartman John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I was not intending to imply IESG review would gain a last call. I was only speaking to IETF review. I don't think IESG review

Re: I-D ACTION:draft-narten-iana-considerations-rfc2434bis-02.txt

2005-07-21 Thread John C Klensin
--On Thursday, 21 July, 2005 13:59 -0400 Sam Hartman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John and without any prejudice from the IESG John review. If you mean that the IESG should treat the process fairly, I agree. If you mean that the IESG should not express an opinion I disagree. I am

Re: I-D ACTION:draft-narten-iana-considerations-rfc2434bis-02.txt

2005-07-21 Thread Brian E Carpenter
John C Klensin wrote: --On Wednesday, 20 July, 2005 07:03 -0400 Sam Hartman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I was not intending to imply IESG review would gain a last call. I was only speaking to IETF review. I don't think IESG review gaining a last call is all that benefical. It's not

Re: I-D ACTION:draft-narten-iana-considerations-rfc2434bis-02.txt

2005-07-20 Thread Sam Hartman
No, I was not intending to imply IESG review would gain a last call. I was only speaking to IETF review. I don't think IESG review gaining a last call is all that benefical. It's not clear how you would interpret the results or what the success/failure criteria is. I think interpreting IESG

Re: I-D ACTION:draft-narten-iana-considerations-rfc2434bis-02.txt

2005-07-20 Thread John C Klensin
--On Wednesday, 20 July, 2005 07:03 -0400 Sam Hartman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I was not intending to imply IESG review would gain a last call. I was only speaking to IETF review. I don't think IESG review gaining a last call is all that benefical. It's not clear how you would

Re: I-D ACTION:draft-narten-iana-considerations-rfc2434bis-02.txt

2005-07-15 Thread Brian E Carpenter
running code proof that this is what the community wants. Brian Scott From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jul 14 18:12:46 2005 X-Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Bradner) Cc: ietf@ietf.org Subject: Re: I-D ACTION:draft-narten-iana

Re: I-D ACTION:draft-narten-iana-considerations-rfc2434bis-02.txt

2005-07-15 Thread Scott Bradner
In which case, what you last call is not the document itself but what the IETF intends to say about it, and do about the related IANA action. just so Scott ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf

Re: I-D ACTION:draft-narten-iana-considerations-rfc2434bis-02.txt

2005-07-15 Thread C. M. Heard
On Fri, 15 Jul 2005, Brian E Carpenter wrote: Scott Bradner wrote: Sam Hartman wrote: would it be reasonable to just say that we are going to always last call IETF review documents? Personally I'd approve of this option unless people think it is too restrictive. works for me

Re: I-D ACTION:draft-narten-iana-considerations-rfc2434bis-02.txt

2005-07-14 Thread Scott Bradner
imo this update is much needed - there has been considerable confusion about some of the processes in RFC 2434 and it would be good to clear up the confusion one specific area of confusion was what used to be called IETF Consensus - renaming it to IETF Review may help but I'm not sure I think

Re: I-D ACTION:draft-narten-iana-considerations-rfc2434bis-02.txt

2005-07-14 Thread Sam Hartman
would it be reasonable to just say that we are going to always last call IETF review documents? Personally I'd approve of this option unless people think it is too restrictive. ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org

Re: I-D ACTION:draft-narten-iana-considerations-rfc2434bis-02.txt

2005-07-14 Thread Scott Bradner
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Re: I-D ACTION:draft-narten-iana-considerations-rfc2434bis-02.txt

2005-07-13 Thread Brian E Carpenter
These are personal comments. I am also the shepherding AD for this draft. 2. Issues To Consider ... For example, if the space consists of text strings, it may be desirable to prevent organizations from obtaining large sets of strings that correspond to the best names (e.g.,