And once the "moderate" switch has been thrown, what criteria will be
used to decide which messages to allow and which to block?
On 2/11/09, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 04:38:00PM -0800, Dave CROCKER wrote:
> > 1. Permanently and irrevocably ban postings from any and all add
On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 04:38:00PM -0800, Dave CROCKER wrote:
> 1. Permanently and irrevocably ban postings from any and all addresses
> that Dean controls. An organized attack warrants it.
>
> 2. Highten strictures on ietf list posting. I'm not entirely clear
> what level the current bar i
> I see your point, but does it warrant a perpetual irrevocable ban on
> all interactions?
In Dean's case, yes.
There's a great deal of history here.
R's,
John
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Excerpts from Dave CROCKER on Tue, Feb 10, 2009 09:25:14AM -0800:
> Scott Brim wrote:
>> I see your point, but does it warrant a perpetual irrevocable ban on
>> all interactions?
> When someone demonstrates a permanent pattern of disruptive behavior,
> with no counter-balancing pattern of usefu
Scott Brim wrote:
Excerpts from Cullen Jennings on Tue, Feb 10, 2009 09:40:55AM -0700:
On Feb 9, 2009, at 6:20 PM, Scott Brim wrote:
Dean's mail does not hurt any of us. OK, it does take a minute of
our time to unsubscribe but that's it.
In my opinion it is not alright for som
On Feb 10, 2009, at 12:23 PM, David W. Hankins wrote:
On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 08:20:22PM -0500, Scott Brim wrote:
Dean's mail does not hurt any of us. OK, it does take a minute of
our
time to unsubscribe but that's it. The ietf list will see the same
Spam behaviour on the Internet is not
Scott Brim wrote:
I see your point, but does it warrant a perpetual irrevocable ban on
all interactions?
Scott,
When someone demonstrates a permanent pattern of disruptive behavior, with no
counter-balancing pattern of useful contribution, their presence is purely a
distraction. Ignori
On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 08:20:22PM -0500, Scott Brim wrote:
> Dean's mail does not hurt any of us. OK, it does take a minute of our
> time to unsubscribe but that's it. The ietf list will see the same
Spam behaviour on the Internet is not "wrong" simply because the email
of one individual is int
Excerpts from Cullen Jennings on Tue, Feb 10, 2009 09:40:55AM -0700:
>
> On Feb 9, 2009, at 6:20 PM, Scott Brim wrote:
>
>> Dean's mail does not hurt any of us. OK, it does take a minute of
>> our time to unsubscribe but that's it.
>
>
> In my opinion it is not alright for someone to harvest email
On Feb 9, 2009, at 6:20 PM, Scott Brim wrote:
Dean's mail does not hurt any of us. OK, it does take a minute of our
time to unsubscribe but that's it.
In my opinion it is not alright for someone to harvest email address
off and IETF list then subscribe all those people to some list they
On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 08:56:01PM -0500, Dean Anderson wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Feb 2009, Randy Presuhn wrote:
>
> > Subscribing someone to a list and not allowing them to remove
> > themselves... seems like a page from the same "win friends and
> > influence people" checklist as the fsf campaign seem
Excerpts from Randy Presuhn on Mon, Feb 09, 2009 04:50:57PM -0800:
> > Normally, I advocate entirely ignoring silliness, but the current version
> > of it
> > is more than silly.
>
> Particularly since mail to the -request address bounces, and
> using the web interface to unsubscribe apparently
Dave: I disagree ...
Dean's mail does not hurt any of us. OK, it does take a minute of our
time to unsubscribe but that's it. The ietf list will see the same
messages it has already been seeing; his list will carry a few other
messages for people who choose to use it. Messages sent to his list
On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 16:38:00 -0800 Dave CROCKER wrote:
...
>Since we happen to simultaneously be suffering a DOS attack on the list
from a
>separately-concerned community,
...
I think an accusation that the FSF is conducting a DOS attack on the IETF
is very serious.
If you find several doze
Hi -
> From: "Dave CROCKER"
> To: "IETF Discussion"
> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 4:38 PM
> Subject: It's time for some new steps (was: [Welcome to the
> "Ietf-honest"mailing list])
...
> Normally, I advocate entirely ignoring sillin
Folks,
The enclosed comes from iadl.org which is controlled by av8.com which is
controlled by Dean Anderson.
Normally, I advocate entirely ignoring silliness, but the current version of it
is more than silly.
This action by Dean is not merely posting inappropriate notes that would warrant
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