Jabber chats (was: 2 hour meetings)

2006-03-24 Thread Michael Thomas
Keith Moore wrote: sometimes I find remote participation (via audio streaming and jabber) more effective than actually attending the meeting. I sometimes am surprised to find that the extra distance makes it easier for me to see what is relevant. I also think it might be less distracting to a

Re: Jabber chats (was: 2 hour meetings)

2006-03-24 Thread Tim Chown
On Fri, Mar 24, 2006 at 07:49:46AM -0800, Michael Thomas wrote: > > Maybe there's an intermediate between email and full f2f time? > Something like having well known jabber chats to simulate the > quickness of f2f conversation without having to be there? There > is some amount of precedence for th

RE: Jabber chats (was: 2 hour meetings)

2006-03-24 Thread Hallam-Baker, Phillip
> From: Tim Chown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Well, if we make remote participation too good, we may end up > with rather empty meeting rooms and a bankrupt IETF ;) > > What we should do, given the rush of work that happens pre-ID > cutoff, is maybe look at such technology for interim > mee

Re: Jabber chats (was: 2 hour meetings)

2006-03-24 Thread Tim Chown
On Fri, Mar 24, 2006 at 08:49:28AM -0800, Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote: > > You mean like holding a bi-weekly teleconference? > > VOIP is getting to the point where this is practical. Well yes, telecons are fine for design team work, but for an open interim meeting you need to determine which sy

Re: Jabber chats (was: 2 hour meetings)

2006-03-24 Thread Stig Venaas
Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote: >> From: Tim Chown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Well, if we make remote participation too good, we may end up >> with rather empty meeting rooms and a bankrupt IETF ;) >> >> What we should do, given the rush of work that happens pre-ID >> cutoff, is maybe look a

Re: Jabber chats (was: 2 hour meetings)

2006-03-24 Thread Scott Leibrand
On 03/24/06 at 5:00pm -, Stig Venaas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Personally I find jabber (and similar technologies) much more convenient > than voice. I've used that a few times with a small group of people to > discuss and solve technical problems. I feel it allows more interactive > discus

Re: Jabber chats (was: 2 hour meetings)

2006-03-24 Thread Tim Chown
On Fri, Mar 24, 2006 at 12:10:47PM -0500, Scott Leibrand wrote: > On 03/24/06 at 5:00pm -, Stig Venaas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Personally I find jabber (and similar technologies) much more convenient > > than voice. I've used that a few times with a small group of people to > > discus

RE: Jabber chats (was: 2 hour meetings)

2006-03-24 Thread Hallam-Baker, Phillip
> From: Tim Chown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Fri, Mar 24, 2006 at 08:49:28AM -0800, Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote: > > > > You mean like holding a bi-weekly teleconference? > > > > VOIP is getting to the point where this is practical. > > Well yes, telecons are fine for design team work,

Re: Jabber chats (was: 2 hour meetings)

2006-03-24 Thread john . loughney
Maybe we should leave the Jabber meeting rooms up all the time, and use them for more dynamic discussions. John - original message - Subject:Re: Jabber chats (was: 2 hour meetings) From: Stig Venaas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 03/24/2006 5:01 pm Hallam-Baker, Phillip

Re: Jabber chats (was: 2 hour meetings)

2006-03-25 Thread Yangwoo Ko
Stig Venaas wrote: Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote: From: Tim Chown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, if we make remote participation too good, we may end up with rather empty meeting rooms and a bankrupt IETF ;) What we should do, given the rush of work that happens pre-ID cutoff, is m

Re: Jabber chats (was: 2 hour meetings)

2006-03-25 Thread Marshall Eubanks
Marshall - original message - Subject:Re: Jabber chats (was: 2 hour meetings) From: Stig Venaas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 03/24/2006 5:01 pm Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote: From: Tim Chown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, if we make remote participation too good, we may

Re: Jabber chats (was: 2 hour meetings)

2006-03-25 Thread Stig Venaas
s > Marshall > > > >> - original message - >> Subject:Re: Jabber chats (was: 2 hour meetings) >> From:Stig Venaas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date:03/24/2006 5:01 pm >> >> Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote: >>>> From: Tim Cho

Re: Jabber chats (was: 2 hour meetings)

2006-03-25 Thread Marshall Eubanks
ndividual wg whether they want to make use of them. Apart from using the jabber rooms for ad-hoc discussions, they should also be used for interim wg meetings of course. Stig Regards Marshall - original message - Subject: Re: Jabber chats (was: 2 hour meetings) From:Stig Venaas

Re: Jabber chats (was: 2 hour meetings)

2006-03-25 Thread Brian E Carpenter
them. Apart from using the jabber rooms for ad-hoc discussions, they should also be used for interim wg meetings of course. Stig Regards Marshall - original message - Subject:Re: Jabber chats (was: 2 hour meetings) From:Stig Venaas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date:03/24/200

Re: Jabber chats (was: 2 hour meetings)

2006-03-25 Thread Michael Thomas
Brian E Carpenter wrote: Just a general comment: I think that as far as decision-taking is concerned, we need to treat WG jabber sessions (and teleconferences) exctly like face to face meetings - any "decisions" taken must in fact be referred to the WG mailing list for rough consensus. Otherwise,