Last Call: (Publishing the "Tao of the IETF" as a Web Page) to Informational RFC

I suggest to have both webpage and RFC AB On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 9:29 PM, The IESG wrote: > > The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider > the following document: > - 'Publishing the "Tao of the IETF" as a Web Page' > as Informational RFC > > The IESG plans to m

Re: Last Call: (Publishing the "Tao of the IETF" as a Web Page) to Informational RFC

On 6/15/12 2:29 PM, The IESG wrote: > > The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider > the following document: > - 'Publishing the "Tao of the IETF" as a Web Page' >as Informational RFC Looks good to me. I'd prefer a slightly different model (e.g., group wiki with

Re: Last Call: (Publishing the "Tao of the IETF" as a Web Page) to Informational RFC

On Jun 15, 2012, at 2:03 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > One possible oversight is that this I-D does not describe how the editor > will work on the tao-possible-revision.html file (e.g., will only the > editor have permissions to work on that, might there be multiple > committers, will it be under

Re: Last Call: (Publishing the "Tao of the IETF" as a Web Page) to Informational RFC

On 6/15/12 3:27 PM, Paul Hoffman wrote: > On Jun 15, 2012, at 2:03 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > >> One possible oversight is that this I-D does not describe how the editor >> will work on the tao-possible-revision.html file (e.g., will only the >> editor have permissions to work on that, might t

Re: Last Call: (Publishing the "Tao of the IETF" as a Web Page) to Informational RFC

On 06/15/2012 11:27 PM, Paul Hoffman wrote: On Jun 15, 2012, at 2:03 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: One possible oversight is that this I-D does not describe how the editor will work on the tao-possible-revision.html file (e.g., will only the editor have permissions to work on that, might there b

Re: Last Call: (Publishing the "Tao of the IETF" as a Web Page) to Informational RFC

It will be better to have both webpage and RFC AB On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 9:29 PM, The IESG wrote: > > The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider > the following document: > - 'Publishing the "Tao of the IETF" as a Web Page' > as Informational RFC > > The IESG pl

Re: Last Call: (Publishing the "Tao of the IETF" as a Web Page) to Informational RFC

--On Friday, June 15, 2012 13:29 -0700 The IESG wrote: > The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter > to consider the following document: > - 'Publishing the "Tao of the IETF" as a Web Page' >as Informational RFC > The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks,

Re: Last Call: (Publishing the "Tao of the IETF" as a Web Page) to Informational RFC

Based on many people's input (most recently, John's), I have updated the draft to more cleanly separate out the history of the Tao from the change that is happening. --Paul Hoffman A new version of I-D, draft-hoffman-tao-as-web-page-03.txt has been successfully submitted by Paul Hoffman and po

Re: Last Call: (Publishing the "Tao of the IETF" as a Web Page) to Informational RFC

--On Thursday, July 05, 2012 14:19 -0700 Paul Hoffman wrote: > Based on many people's input (most recently, John's), I have > updated the draft to more cleanly separate out the history of > the Tao from the change that is happening. Paul, While I'd prefer to see you go even further in that di

Re: Last Call: (Publishing the "Tao of the IETF" as a Web Page) to Informational RFC

I've read this version and think it's an excellent revision. Is there going to be a way of seeing a list of all the versions of the tao? Or links within tao.html to the previous version? Perhaps a www.ietf.org/tao/ should be maintained that has pointers to all the versions as well any proposed

Re: Last Call: (Publishing the "Tao of the IETF" as a Web Page) to Informational RFC

On Jul 5, 2012, at 2:45 PM, Tony Hansen wrote: > Is there going to be a way of seeing a list of all the versions of the tao? > Or links within tao.html to the previous version? Perhaps a www.ietf.org/tao/ > should be maintained that has pointers to all the versions as well any > proposed update

Re: Last Call: (Publishing the "Tao of the IETF" as a Web Page) to Informational RFC

I think my point was missed. Section 2 says: All published versions will be archived using URLs of the form . My question is: Where is there a list of all of the tao version files? How would one be able to find out the name of the previous version so th

Re: Last Call: (Publishing the "Tao of the IETF" as a Web Page) to Informational RFC

--On Thursday, July 05, 2012 23:22 -0400 Tony Hansen wrote: > I think my point was missed. Section 2 says: > > All published versions will be archived using URLs of the form > . > > My question is: Where is there a list of all of the tao > version files?

Re: Last Call: (Publishing the "Tao of the IETF" as a Web Page) to Informational RFC

Authoritative, no. But definitely referenced by many, many people and IMO worthy of a certain amount of care. Tony Hansen On 7/5/2012 11:57 PM, John C Klensin wrote: --On Thursday, July 05, 2012 23:22 -0400 Tony Hansen wrote: I think my point was missed. Section 2 says: All published v

Re: Last Call: (Publishing the "Tao of the IETF" as a Web Page) to Informational RFC

+1 I support all your suggestions (i.e. point 1 and 2, and nits i and ii ) , and hope that iesg, and editor agrees, and that the community considers them for progress. I seen the change in the draft-document-03 which I think getting better but still not satisfied The new vesion 3 draft (dated 5 J

Re: Last Call: (Publishing the "Tao of the IETF" as a Web Page) to Informational RFC

--On Friday, July 06, 2012 00:28 -0400 Tony Hansen wrote: > Authoritative, no. But definitely referenced by many, many > people and IMO worthy of a certain amount of care. No disagreement about care. But it seems to me that adequate care requires keeping track of a future version, a current v

Re: Last Call: (Publishing the "Tao of the IETF" as a Web Page) to Informational RFC

At 20:22 05-07-2012, Tony Hansen wrote: I think my point was missed. Section 2 says: All published versions will be archived using URLs of the form . My question is: Where is there a list of all of the tao version files? How would one be able to find ou

Re: Last Call: (Publishing the "Tao of the IETF" as a Web Page) to Informational RFC

--On Friday, July 06, 2012 07:16 +0200 Abdussalam Baryun wrote: > +1 > > I support all your suggestions (i.e. point 1 and 2, and nits i > and ii ) , and hope that iesg, and editor agrees, and that the > community considers them for progress. I seen the change in the > draft-document-03 which I

Re: Last Call: (Publishing the "Tao of the IETF" as a Web Page) to Informational RFC

Hi John, Let's wait for the iesg and I trust they will find the solution after they read our comments. I beleive that your comments are sound, and will be taken by the iesg. If things turn against your suggestions there are some procedure-options to go forward, but I don't think will be in that di