Abhishek,
I see that you have already received multiple answers,
but as someone who deals with IPR and standardization,
I would like to make a few points.
First, since you ask about motivation, I would ask you what is your motivation
for filing a patent? In software and communications patent
On 22/Jan/10 17:47, Scott Brim wrote:
Dean Willis allegedly wrote on 01/22/2010 02:56 EST:
As somebody who makes a living explaining patents to people who feel
threatened by an infringement suit, the simple fact is that the IETF is
appallingly (and blissfully) ignorant of the vast number of
Hi Dean,
Sorry while I interrupt your melancholy ;)
Its' a good read as well, and I highly recommend it; my depressing
theory, however, is that we're falling off the tail of the success
hump and sliding back into a strictly Malthusian model of supply,
demand, and starvation.
--
Abhishek,
Putting aside the question about patents for the moment, companies make
decisions about standardized vs. proprietary technology all the time.
Sometimes what makes sense for them is keeping a particular technical
solution to themselves. Sometimes a standard is in their interests, and
Greg, Dean,
Sorry while I interrupt your melancholy ;)
Cheer up :-)
Eventually, this may reach a point where networking
is commodified beyond
the point where companies have an interest in flying staff around the
world
to attend meetings.
I have a hard time believing that we ever
Abhishek Verma allegedly wrote on 01/21/2010 19:57 EST:
Assume that i have a nifty idea on how i can speed up, lets say, a
database exchange in OSPF. My doubt is that why should i submit an
IETF draft describing this, which can later become an RFC, when i can
very well patent this idea? I
I expect them, but I do get mad about patent trolls bleeding the golden
goose. The only reason these patents have any value is because the
Internet has value. When people who contribute nothing to that value
then come along and parasitize it,
Can I patent/copyright that statement ? :-).
Abhishek,
The overriding reason, as far as I'm concerned, is that many or most
service providers have a policy of avoiding equipment purchases that
lock them into a single vendor if at all possible. Second sources are
necessary for a number of reasons, and not only for competition - what
happens
Hi,
I have a basic question relating to patents and IETF.
Assume that i have a nifty idea on how i can speed up, lets say, a
database exchange in OSPF. My doubt is that why should i submit an
IETF draft describing this, which can later become an RFC, when i can
very well patent this idea? I
At 6:27 AM +0530 1/22/10, Abhishek Verma wrote:
I spoke to several people offline and i couldnt get any good answers.
I suspect that you got many good answers, maybe all different. The fact that
many people have different motivations for submitting their work to the IETF
instead of {something
Hi Paul,
At 6:27 AM +0530 1/22/10, Abhishek Verma wrote:
I spoke to several people offline and i couldnt get any good answers.
I suspect that you got many good answers, maybe all different. The fact that
many people have different motivations for submitting their work to the
IETF instead
Hi Ashishek
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Sent: Friday, 22 January 2010 12:31 PM
To: Paul Hoffman
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Subject: Re: Motivation to submit an idea in IETF?
Hi Paul,
At 6:27 AM +0530
At 7:00 AM +0530 1/22/10, Abhishek Verma wrote:
And what are those motivations? Wouldnt patenting be the most obvious
thing to do?
Clearly not. There are literally thousands of existence proofs for that.
The typical response was that most ISPs prefer multiple vendors, and a
patented solution
The IETF, like any other standard body, isn't about publishing idea or
inventing things, but all about enabling interoperability between discrete
implementations and parties. Patents do not enable interoperability on their
own because of their nature and limitations (at least in the US).
On Jan 21, 2010, at 7:51 PM, Greg Daley wrote:
I think that whetever the reason, documents submitted to the IETF
are less likely to become standards track RFCs if there is critical
IPR which must be licensed in order to construct the protocol.
As somebody who makes a living explaining
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