R: FW: Last Call: (The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC

2011-10-06 Thread David Allan I
I think it is unfortunate that we are in a situation where such a document has utility. But ultimately it does. Therefore I support the publication of draft-sprecher... D > MPLS Working Group, > > Please be aware of the IETF last call as shown below. The document was > presented for publicat

Re: [mpls] R: FW: Last Call: (The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC

2011-10-05 Thread Stewart Bryant
On 05/10/2011 10:38, D'Alessandro Alessandro Gerardo wrote: > major unresolved technical concerns Alessandro Please can I suggest that you write an internet draft detailing these "major unresolved technical concerns" so that we can all understand them. Such a draft needs to be technical, and de

RE: [mpls] R: FW: Last Call: (The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC

2011-10-05 Thread Alexander Vainshtein
Alessandro, Stewart and all, I concur with Stewart: please write a draft detailing your major technical concerns. I'd like to add a quote from Malcolm's presentation at the IETF meeting in Prague: "Differences are close to invisible at the level of the requirements in RFC5860". Jus

R: [mpls] R: FW: Last Call: (The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC

2011-10-05 Thread D'Alessandro Alessandro Gerardo
06 418 639 07 -Messaggio originale- Da: Stewart Bryant [mailto:stbry...@cisco.com] Inviato: mercoledì 5 ottobre 2011 12:24 A: D'Alessandro Alessandro Gerardo Cc: adr...@olddog.co.uk; m...@ietf.org; ietf@ietf.org Oggetto: Re: [mpls] R: FW: Last Call: (The Reasons for Selecting a Sing

Re: [mpls] R: FW: Last Call: (The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC

2011-10-05 Thread David Sinicrope
I concur with Dave's comment and support publication of the draft. Dave On Oct 5, 2011, at 7:06 PM, "David Allan I" wrote: > I think it is unfortunate that we are in a situation where such a document > has utility. But ultimately it does. > > Therefore I support the publication of draft-spre

RE: [mpls] R: FW: Last Call: (The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC

2011-10-06 Thread John E Drake
As do I > -Original Message- > From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > David Sinicrope > Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 7:11 PM > To: David Allan I > Cc: m...@ietf.org; ietf@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [mpls] R: FW: Last Call: considerations-01.txt> (The R

RE: [mpls] R: FW: Last Call: (The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC

2011-10-06 Thread Jeff Tantsura
Yes/support Regards, Jeff > > > >> MPLS Working Group, >> >> Please be aware of the IETF last call as shown below. The document was >> presented for publication as an individual RFC with IETF consensus and >> AD sponsorship. >> >> This draft is clearly close and relevant to the work you d

RE: [mpls] R: FW: Last Call: (The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC

2011-10-07 Thread Rolf Winter
Dave, could you be more precise about what you think the utility of this document is in this particular situation. I mean, what will its effect be in the current situation. What will change after this document has been published. It seems everybody believes the "situation" will be resolved once

RE: [mpls] R: FW: Last Call: (The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC

2011-10-07 Thread Alexander Vainshtein
easons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC I think it is unfortunate that we are in a situation where such a document has utility. But ultimately it does. Therefore I support the publication of draft-sprecher... D > MPLS Working Group, > > Please b

RE: [mpls] R: FW: Last Call: (The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC

2011-10-07 Thread David Allan I
etc. That cannot be "fixed" either, but I do not believe in rewarding it. Dave -Original Message- From: Rolf Winter [mailto:rolf.win...@neclab.eu] Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 6:39 AM To: David Allan I; ietf@ietf.org; m...@ietf.org Subject: RE: [mpls] R: FW: Last Call:

Re: [mpls] R: FW: Last Call: (The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC

2011-10-07 Thread Randy Bush
> IMO it is a statement of principle going forward. As such it does not > "fix" or "make go away" the current situation, but it would be an IETF > consensus position on a way forward. And I agree with that position. > > Lots of folks do proprietary deployments, squat on code points > etc. That can

回复: [mpls] R: FW: Last Call: (The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC

2011-10-05 Thread Larry
> 发件人: D'Alessandro Alessandro Gerardo > 主题: [mpls] R: FW: Last Call: > (The Reasons for Selecting > a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC > 收件人: "adr...@olddog.co.uk" , "m...@ietf.org" > , "ietf@ietf.org" > 日期: 2011年10月

Re: [IETF] Re: [mpls] R: FW: Last Call: (The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC

2011-10-07 Thread Warren Kumari
While it is not perfect, I too support publication... W On Oct 5, 2011, at 7:11 PM, David Sinicrope wrote: > I concur with Dave's comment and support publication of the draft. > Dave > > > > On Oct 5, 2011, at 7:06 PM, "David Allan I" > wrote: > >> I think it is unfortunate that we are in a

答复: [mpls] 回复: R: FW: Last Call: (The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC

2011-10-05 Thread yang . jian90
andard. Best regards, Han Li --- 11年10月5日,周三, D'Alessandro Alessandro Gerardo 写道: > 发件人: D'Alessandro Alessandro Gerardo > 主题: [mpls] R: FW: Last Call: (The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC > 收件人: "adr...@olddog.co.uk&

Re: 答复: [mpls] 回复: R: FW: Last Call: (The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC

2011-10-05 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Hi Jian, On 2011-10-06 03:53, yang.jia...@zte.com.cn wrote: > Dear All, > > I do not support either. > > In section 3.5: > If two MPLS OAM protocols were to be deployed we would have to consider > three possible scenarios: > 1) Isolation of the network into two incompatible and unconnected islan

Re: 答复: [mpls] 回复: R: FW: Last Call: (The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC

2011-10-06 Thread Malcolm . BETTS
...@ietf.org 05/10/2011 04:16 PM To yang.jia...@zte.com.cn cc "m...@ietf.org" , D'Alessandro Alessandro Gerardo , "ietf@ietf.org" , larryli...@yahoo.com.cn, mpls-bounces@ietf.orgLarry, "adr...@olddog.co.uk" Subject Re: 答复: [mpls] 回复: R: FW: Last Call: (The Reasons f

RE: [mpls] 答复: 回复: R: FW: Last Call: (The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC

2011-10-06 Thread Luyuan Fang (lufang)
cusses the elements of the choice of solutions. > Current > application and deployment should be considered. In China Mobile, more > than > 330,000 PTN box are/will based on G.8113.1. > > TDM PW gives a good example. G.8113.1 based OAM is relative simple > and > mat

R: Re: [mpls] 答复: 回复: R: FW: Last Call: (The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC

2011-10-20 Thread erminio.ottone...@libero.it
If the MPLS WG had selected the OAM solution that was already existing (as indicated multiple times by the operators which have already massively deployed it), we would have had a single OAM solution both in the market and in the IETF RFCs. We now have "two" OAM solutions: one (which is not act

RE: [mpls] R: Re: 答复: 回复: R: FW: Last Call: (The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC

2011-10-19 Thread John E Drake
Alessandro, Apparently, the advice given regarding the risks and costs associated with deploying proprietary or pre-standard solutions didn't resonate with you. Do you really expect the rest of us to clean up after you? Thanks, John > -Original Message- > From: mpls-boun...@ietf.org

R: [mpls] R: Re: 答复: 回复: R: FW: Last Call: (The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC

2011-10-20 Thread D'Alessandro Alessandro Gerardo
: FW: Last Call: (The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC Alessandro, Apparently, the advice given regarding the risks and costs associated with deploying proprietary or pre-standard solutions didn't resonate with you. Do you really expect the r