Re: Procedural question on iasa-bcp-02 Last Call (was: Re: Consensus? Separate bank account)

2004-12-13 Thread Harald Tveit Alvestrand
just a small followup re timing I've said most of what I have to say on this issue --On 11. desember 2004 10:59 -0500 John C Klensin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think getting this into wider community review, i.e. due to LC, is a good thing to do at this point, even while some of us,

Re: Consensus? Separate bank account

2004-12-13 Thread Brian E Carpenter
John C Klensin wrote: Bert, I'm trying to catch up on all of this after nearly two weeks in which it was impossible to track these various threads. Now it is merely a hard untangling process. If you are going to use words equivalent to irrevocable, in either this context, the ISOC payment one

Re: Procedural question on iasa-bcp-02 Last Call (was: Re: Consensus? Separate bank account)

2004-12-11 Thread Margaret Wasserman
Hi Avri and John, I interpreted Harald's note differently than you did... I took this part: After all this threading, it seems clear that it would be bad to send out the Last Call today as planned without settling this issue. To mean that Harald is _not_ starting the IETF Last Call as

Re: Procedural question on iasa-bcp-02 Last Call (was: Re: Consensus? Separate bank account)

2004-12-11 Thread Harald Tveit Alvestrand
--On fredag, desember 10, 2004 18:26:08 -0500 John C Klensin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Harald, This is purely a procedural question, but my interpretation of the note below and the general support your suggestion has gotten is that the document that is actually being last-called is not

Re: Procedural question on iasa-bcp-02 Last Call (was: Re: Consensus? Separate bank account)

2004-12-11 Thread John C Klensin
--On Saturday, 11 December, 2004 12:58 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I agree it does seem procedurally a little skewed. But in thinking about it, I feel that this may not end up a problem as long as one thing happens. That is, if -03 (the 02-bis you refer to) is different in any

Re: Procedural question on iasa-bcp-02 Last Call (was: Re: Consensus? Separate bank account)

2004-12-11 Thread avri
Hi, I agree it does seem procedurally a little skewed. But in thinking about it, I feel that this may not end up a problem as long as one thing happens. That is, if -03 (the 02-bis you refer to) is different in any substantive manner, i.e. other then editorial, it will need to go through a

Procedural question on iasa-bcp-02 Last Call (was: Re: Consensus? Separate bank account)

2004-12-10 Thread John C Klensin
Harald, This is purely a procedural question, but my interpretation of the note below and the general support your suggestion has gotten is that the document that is actually being last-called is not draft-ietf-iasa-bcp-02.txt, as identified in the Last Call posted yesterday afternoon, but a

RE: Consensus? Separate bank account

2004-12-10 Thread John C Klensin
Bert, I'm trying to catch up on all of this after nearly two weeks in which it was impossible to track these various threads. Now it is merely a hard untangling process. If you are going to use words equivalent to irrevocable, in either this context, the ISOC payment one noted by Bernard, or

Re: Consensus? Separate bank account

2004-12-09 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Me too Brian Scott Bradner wrote: I can go with what Harald suggests: Scott Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2004 23:11:21 +0100 From: Harald Tveit Alvestrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Consensus? Separate bank account After all this threading, it seems clear that it would be bad

Re: Consensus? Separate bank account

2004-12-09 Thread Fred Baker
At 07:53 AM 12/09/04 +0100, Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote: Do we need to make a global pass of s/account/accounts/? I think so. ___ Ietf mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf

RE: Consensus? Separate bank account

2004-12-09 Thread Wijnen, Bert (Bert)
Since I have seen quite a few agreement postings to below posting of Harald, I have made the change as suggested by Harald (in my working copy that is). Bert -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Harald Tveit Alvestrand Sent: Wednesday,

RE: Consensus? Separate bank account

2004-12-09 Thread Wijnen, Bert (Bert)
At 07:53 AM 12/09/04 +0100, Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote: Do we need to make a global pass of s/account/accounts/? I think so. Done in my working copy Bert ___ Ietf mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf

Re: Consensus? Separate bank account

2004-12-08 Thread Scott Bradner
I can go with what Harald suggests: Scott Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2004 23:11:21 +0100 From: Harald Tveit Alvestrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Consensus? Separate bank account After all this threading, it seems clear that it would be bad to send out the Last Call today as

Re: Consensus? Separate bank account

2004-12-08 Thread Fred Baker
As near as I can tell, there is no argument that IETF money or assets should be kept for use by/on behalf of the IETF - should not be spent on other things, and should be accounted for appropriately. The language you reference seems to deal with various ways to phrase that. However it is

Re: Consensus? Separate bank account

2004-12-08 Thread Harald Tveit Alvestrand
--On onsdag, desember 08, 2004 18:35:20 -0800 Fred Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As near as I can tell, there is no argument that IETF money or assets should be kept for use by/on behalf of the IETF - should not be spent on other things, and should be accounted for appropriately. The language