Re: Progressing Re: Progress report......

2005-01-26 Thread John C Klensin
--On Wednesday, 26 January, 2005 11:38 +0100 Brian E Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John C Klensin wrote: > > [many things, including] > >> (1) The note indicates that "the Transition Team is favorably >> inclined to consider a proposal from NeuStar for continuing >> Secretariat servic

Re: Progressing Re: Progress report......

2005-01-26 Thread Brian E Carpenter
John C Klensin suggested as one option: * Fix the BCP to accommodate this case, i.e., to give the IAOC the authority to accept unsolicited, sole-source proposals for outsourced operations if that seems appropriate to them, even if those proposals do not fufil

Re: Progressing Re: Progress report......

2005-01-26 Thread Margaret Wasserman
At 10:13 AM -0500 1/26/05, John C Klensin wrote: Hi John, The situation you fear doesn't change at all. The draft doesn't give the IAOC any authority to accept an unsolicited proposal in the absence of an IAD-created, IAOC-approved, RFP and at least the potential for competitive proposals against

RE: Progressing Re: Progress report......

2005-01-26 Thread Wijnen, Bert (Bert)
John writes: > > ... snip a lot .. > I'd rather either > > * Fix the BCP to accommodate this case, i.e., to give > the IAOC the authority to accept unsolicited, > sole-source proposals for outsourced operations if that > seems appropriate to them, even if those proposals

Re: Progressing Re: Progress report......

2005-01-26 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Wijnen, Bert (Bert) wrote: ... All we need to do is that as soon as we have IASA in place (we still need to approve the BCP first) that IASA then starts to prepare for RFPs and such and then the process can start. During that process, we are still subject to whatever CNRI/Foretec/Neustar do, are w

RE: Progressing Re: Progress report......

2005-01-26 Thread Scott Bradner
> All we need to do is that as soon as we have IASA in place (we > still need to approve the BCP first) that IASA then starts > to prepare for RFPs and such and then the process can start. the "prepare for RFPs" seems futile (or at least *very* premature) if NeuStar is to get a N-year agreement/co

Re: Progressing Re: Progress report......

2005-01-26 Thread John C Klensin
--On Wednesday, 26 January, 2005 11:02 -0500 Margaret Wasserman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 10:13 AM -0500 1/26/05, John C Klensin wrote: > > Hi John, > >> The situation you fear doesn't change at all. The draft >> doesn't give the IAOC any authority to accept an unsolicited >> proposal i

RE: Progressing Re: Progress report......

2005-01-26 Thread Wijnen, Bert (Bert)
Scott writes > > > All we need to do is that as soon as we have IASA in place (we > > still need to approve the BCP first) that IASA then starts > > to prepare for RFPs and such and then the process can start. > > the "prepare for RFPs" seems futile (or at least *very* premature) > if NeuStar is

RE: Progressing Re: Progress report......

2005-01-26 Thread John C Klensin
--On Wednesday, 26 January, 2005 18:02 +0100 "Wijnen, Bert (Bert)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Scott writes >> >> > All we need to do is that as soon as we have IASA in place >> > (we still need to approve the BCP first) that IASA then >> > starts to prepare for RFPs and such and then the proc

RE: Progressing Re: Progress report......

2005-01-26 Thread John C Klensin
--On Wednesday, 26 January, 2005 17:04 +0100 "Wijnen, Bert (Bert)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John writes: >> >> > ... snip a lot .. > >> I'd rather either >> >> * Fix the BCP to accommodate this case, i.e., to give >> the IAOC the authority to accept unsolicited, >> sole-s

Re: Progressing Re: Progress report......

2005-01-26 Thread Margaret Wasserman
--On Wednesday, 26 January, 2005 11:02 -0500 Margaret Wasserman I just went back and looked at the text, and it appears, to my chagrin, that after weeks of discussion about "preferred outsourcing" and "RFP-based processes", we have "improved" the language sufficiently to not prevent, even in princi

RE: Progressing Re: Progress report......

2005-01-26 Thread Margaret Wasserman
Hi John, At 12:10 PM -0500 1/26/05, John C Klensin wrote: Recognizing the textual problem that Margaret identified and moving back to intent, sooner or later the IAD and IAOC need to decide whether or not to issue one or more competitive RFPs for some or all of the secretariat functions. My unders

Re: Progressing Re: Progress report......

2005-01-26 Thread Leslie Daigle
I believe the scenarios you are outlining are certainly possible. I don't (personally) believe that we can write rules or process steps to make them impossible. I also am concsiously saying "possible" without any prejudice about "likelihood". That is -- I have no opinion about the likelihood of

Re: Progressing Re: Progress report......

2005-01-26 Thread Harald Tveit Alvestrand
--On onsdag, januar 26, 2005 12:30:13 -0500 Margaret Wasserman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --On Wednesday, 26 January, 2005 11:02 -0500 Margaret Wasserman I just went back and looked at the text, and it appears, to my chagrin, that after weeks of discussion about "preferred outsourcing" and "RFP-

Re: Progressing Re: Progress report......

2005-01-27 Thread Mark D. Foster
--At 11:37 AM -0500 1/26/05, John C Klensin wrote: > Of course, if Neustar agrees to whatever provisions are in the > BCP, and whatever details about those provisions that the IAOC > specifies, and is able to do so --which Harald's note indicates > they are prepared to do-- then this should not be