Re: RFID Test Class

2009-09-29 Thread Todd Glassey
psuger wrote: Dear colleagues, I am a member of a lead user project planning to run real live RFID use tests. This test intends to use the [RFC 5395] Private Use 0xFFF0, 65520 Class as "PERFID" (for Provisional Experimentation RFID) since there is no Experimentation Classes assigned. Mssr Su

Re: RFID (was: identifying yourself at the mic)

2007-03-27 Thread Fred Baker
On Tuesday, March 27, 2007 02:42:19 PM -0700 Andy Bierman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There are so many Process Wonks in the IETF who feel it is their sworn duty to yell "State your name please!" I guess I am one of those process wonks. In the PCN meeting last week, I was taking notes, a feed

Re: RFID

2007-03-27 Thread Andy Bierman
Philip Guenther wrote: On Mar 27, 2007, at 8:10 PM, Andy Bierman wrote: ... I find it rather annoying to listen to the constant interruptions, reminding people of the process. The only reasons for such an interruption are: ... 2) you plan to base your opinion of the imminent comment on eithe

Re: RFID

2007-03-27 Thread Philip Guenther
On Mar 27, 2007, at 8:10 PM, Andy Bierman wrote: ... > I find it rather annoying to listen to the constant interruptions, > reminding people of the process. The only reasons for such an > interruption are: ... > 2) you plan to base your opinion of the imminent comment on either > who says it

Re: RFID

2007-03-27 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Andy" == Andy Bierman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Andy> I find it rather annoying to listen to the constant Andy> interruptions, reminding people of the process. The only Andy> reasons for such an interruption are: Andy> 1) it is very important to you that detailed and ac

RE: RFID

2007-03-27 Thread Hallam-Baker, Phillip
age- > From: Marshall Eubanks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 8:49 PM > To: Andy Bierman > Cc: ietf@ietf.org; Jeffrey Hutzelman > Subject: Re: RFID > > Speaking as a frequent scribe, I consider it good manners for > speakers to identify themselves,

Re: RFID

2007-03-27 Thread Marshall Eubanks
Speaking as a frequent scribe, I consider it good manners for speakers to identify themselves, even if they are well known. Regards Marshall On Mar 27, 2007, at 8:10 PM, Andy Bierman wrote: Jeffrey Hutzelman wrote: On Tuesday, March 27, 2007 03:51:56 PM -0700 Andy Bierman <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: RFID

2007-03-27 Thread Andy Bierman
Jeffrey Hutzelman wrote: On Tuesday, March 27, 2007 03:51:56 PM -0700 Andy Bierman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonk_%28slang%29 According to wikipedia, a policy wonk is someone knowledgeable about and fascinated by details of government policy and programs If t

Re: RFID

2007-03-27 Thread Jeffrey Hutzelman
On Tuesday, March 27, 2007 03:51:56 PM -0700 Andy Bierman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonk_%28slang%29 According to wikipedia, a policy wonk is someone knowledgeable about and fascinated by details of government policy and programs If that is derogatory then I'm

Re: RFID

2007-03-27 Thread Andy Bierman
Jeffrey Hutzelman wrote: On Tuesday, March 27, 2007 02:42:19 PM -0700 Andy Bierman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There are so many Process Wonks in the IETF who feel it is their sworn duty to yell "State your name please!" I think it's unfair to call people who do that "process wonks" or any

Re: RFID (was: identifying yourself at the mic)

2007-03-27 Thread Jeffrey Hutzelman
On Tuesday, March 27, 2007 02:42:19 PM -0700 Andy Bierman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There are so many Process Wonks in the IETF who feel it is their sworn duty to yell "State your name please!" I think it's unfair to call people who do that "process wonks" or any other derogatory term.

Re: RFID (was: identifying yourself at the mic)

2007-03-27 Thread Andy Bierman
Schliesser, Benson wrote: Eric- It sounds like your argument is: "We're too incompetent to say our names at the mic, so we're probably too incompetent to use a RFID system." Did I get that right? This sounds like a Rube Goldberg joke, not a serious thread. Could we possibly find a more o

RE: RFID (was: identifying yourself at the mic)

2007-03-27 Thread Schliesser, Benson
Steven M. Bellovin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > "Schliesser, Benson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On the other hand, I am amused by your idea of scanning the streets > > for RFID responses that look like IETF-badges. Then my robot army > > could track down and kill all IETF participants

Re: RFID (was: identifying yourself at the mic)

2007-03-27 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 11:27:29 -0500 "Schliesser, Benson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Eric- > > It sounds like your argument is: "We're too incompetent to say our > names at the mic, so we're probably too incompetent to use a RFID > system." Did I get that right? > > While I'm certainly not goi

RE: RFID (was: identifying yourself at the mic)

2007-03-27 Thread Schliesser, Benson
net! Or maybe I could just use them for some fun practical jokes instead... Cheers, -Benson From: Eric Gray (LO/EUS) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 4:56 PM To: Andrew G. Malis Cc: ietf@ietf

RE: RFID (was: identifying yourself at the mic)

2007-03-27 Thread Schliesser, Benson
arify. Cheers, -Benson From: Eric Gray (LO/EUS) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 5:49 PM To: Schliesser, Benson Cc: ietf@ietf.org Subject: RE: RFID (was: identifying yourself at th

RE: RFID (was: identifying yourself at the mic)

2007-03-27 Thread Hallam-Baker, Phillip
Forgive me for not sharing the American enthusiasm for such technologies. I note that while the US election systems stagger from one fiasco to the next there British electoral technology based on paper ballots, pens and human counters/scrutinizers is considerably cheaper to operate and has not

RE: RFID (was: identifying yourself at the mic)

2007-03-27 Thread Eric Gray (LO/EUS)
csson From: Schliesser, Benson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 12:27 PM To: Eric Gray (LO/EUS) Cc: ietf@ietf.org Subject: RE: RFID (was: identifying yourself at the mic) Importance: High

RE: RFID (was: identifying yourself at the mic)

2007-03-27 Thread Eric Gray (LO/EUS)
is [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 11:45 AM To: Eric Gray (LO/EUS) Cc: David Morris; ietf@ietf.org Subject: Re: RFID (was: identifying yourself at the mic) Importance: High Eric, Why not? We ea

Re: RFID (was: identifying yourself at the mic)

2007-03-27 Thread Andrew G. Malis
Eric, Why not? We each already receive a unique identifier when we register for the meeting - all the RFID tag needs to contain is that identifier, no personal info is required. There could also be an opt-in locator service to let other attendees look up what meeting room you're in at that time.

RE: RFID (was: identifying yourself at the mic)

2007-03-27 Thread Eric Gray (LO/EUS)
Excellent idea - NOT!!! All we need is something else to wrap in aluminum foil... Thanks! -- Eric Gray Principal Engineer Ericsson From: Andrew G. Malis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 10:55 AM To: David

Re: RFID mailing list announcement

2004-11-15 Thread Scott Barvick
Daniel, I wasn't at the BoF so if I understand your question correctly, ZigBee and RFID are very different solutions for very different applications - remote monitoring, control, sensory applications vs. automatic identification (at the highest level). As such, the standardization around the acces

Re: RFID mailing list announcement

2004-11-15 Thread Daniel Park
In 61st IETF meeting, a new BOF as IPv6 over 802.15.4 (ZigBee) was held and many guys were of interest. I am wondering of what explicit issues are available arounding RFID against previous work.   Please let me know it if I am missing anything.--- Original Message ---Sender : Scott Barvic

Re: RFID and EPCglobal

2003-11-20 Thread Michael Mealling
On Thu, 2003-11-20 at 10:52, Richard Shockey wrote: > EPCglobal is focusing on the standards though I suspect there are aspects > of the protocols being discussed that should come to the IETF or IEEE for > proper peer review and/or standardization. There is an extensive discussion > of the use o