Why not use on-line tool to track each working group's attendees?

2010-08-06 Thread Linda Dunbar
I understand that Blue Sheet has been the tradition of IETF to track the attendees to each working group. But people's hand writing is all different, it takes some work to track the names and contact information on Blue Sheet. IEEE802 has moved to On-Line attendee log (https://seabass.ieee.org

Re: Why not use on-line tool to track each working group's attendees?

2010-08-06 Thread Ed Juskevicius
IEEE802 uses formal voting (during its meetings) to determine issues and to accept proposals (or motions) to add or delete text from documents that are being developed. In addition, IEEE802 has rules for how many meetings a person has to attend to develop "voting rights", and thereafter, how many

Re: Why not use on-line tool to track each working group's attendees?

2010-08-06 Thread David Conrad
Hi, On Aug 6, 2010, at 4:36 AM, Ed Juskevicius wrote: > IEEE802 uses formal voting (during its meetings) to determine issues and to > accept proposals (or motions) to add or delete text from documents that are > being developed. > ... > The IETF WG process is very different from IEEE802, and tha

Re: Why not use on-line tool to track each working group's attendees?

2010-08-07 Thread Joel Jaeggli
On 8/6/10 9:48 AM, David Conrad wrote: > Hi, > > On Aug 6, 2010, at 4:36 AM, Ed Juskevicius wrote: >> IEEE802 uses formal voting (during its meetings) to determine issues and to >> accept proposals (or motions) to add or delete text from documents that are >> being developed. >> ... >> The IETF

Re: Why not use on-line tool to track each working group's attendees?

2010-08-09 Thread Martin Rex
Joel Jaeggli wrote: > > Depending on the popularity of your working group and the extent to > which the meeting itself is timeshifted from the vantage point of the > bulk of the remote participants, as much as 10% of of the partficipants > might be remote, generally less, almost never more. There

Re: Why not use on-line tool to track each working group's attendees?

2010-08-09 Thread Joel Jaeggli
On 8/9/10 9:51 AM, Martin Rex wrote: > Unfortunately, for IETF78, I was blocked from the audiostream, because > it was served through a port _other_ than 80/443, so it was unaccessible > through our company firewall. I would appreciate if the audio streams > would be served through port 80 again o

Re: Why not use on-line tool to track each working group's attendees?

2010-08-09 Thread David Conrad
On Aug 9, 2010, at 6:51 AM, Martin Rex wrote: > Joel Jaeggli wrote: >> >> as much as 10% of of the partficipants might be remote, generally less, >> almost never more. > There is a difference in the effectiveness of remote vs. on-premise > participation. I don't think anyone disputes this (or