draft-duerst-iana-namespace-00.txt

2008-03-02 Thread Tony Finch
The latest RISKS gibes an example of the magnitude of the problem of unwanted traffic caused by using URLs instead of URNs for protocol identification URIs. Perhaps the security considerations section of the draft should describe some ways of mitigating it? http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks/25.07.htm

Re: draft-duerst-iana-namespace-00.txt

2008-03-02 Thread Julian Reschke
Tony Finch wrote: > The latest RISKS gibes an example of the magnitude of the problem of > unwanted traffic caused by using URLs instead of URNs for protocol > identification URIs. Perhaps the security considerations section of the > draft should describe some ways of mitigating it? > > http://cat

Re: draft-duerst-iana-namespace-00.txt

2008-03-02 Thread Ned Freed
> Tony Finch wrote: > > The latest RISKS gibes an example of the magnitude of the problem of > > unwanted traffic caused by using URLs instead of URNs for protocol > > identification URIs. Perhaps the security considerations section of the > > draft should describe some ways of mitigating it? > > >

Re: draft-duerst-iana-namespace-00.txt

2008-03-02 Thread Tim Bray
On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 3:23 PM, Ned Freed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Contrary to that, XML processors do not resolve namespace URIs, they are > > purely used as identifiers. > > That's certainly how things are supposed to work. It may or may not be how > they > actually work. I agree with

Re: draft-duerst-iana-namespace-00.txt

2008-03-03 Thread Julian Reschke
Tim Bray wrote: > On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 3:23 PM, Ned Freed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Contrary to that, XML processors do not resolve namespace URIs, they are >> > purely used as identifiers. >> >> That's certainly how things are supposed to work. It may or may not be how >> they >> actu

Re: draft-duerst-iana-namespace-00.txt

2008-03-03 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 08:50:58PM +, Tony Finch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote a message of 16 lines which said: > The latest RISKS gibes an example The actual original reference is: http://www.w3.org/blog/systeam/2008/02/08/w3c_s_excessive_dtd_traffic > Perhaps the security considerations

Re: draft-duerst-iana-namespace-00.txt

2008-03-03 Thread Ned Freed
> Tim Bray wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 3:23 PM, Ned Freed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > Contrary to that, XML processors do not resolve namespace URIs, they are > >> > purely used as identifiers. > >> > >> That's certainly how things are supposed to work. It may or may not be > >> how

Re: draft-duerst-iana-namespace-00.txt

2008-03-03 Thread Julian Reschke
Ned Freed wrote: > By all means do so if you want, but IMO it's a waste of time. It's like > that > cautionary line finance folks use: Past performance is not a reliable > indication of future results. Just because someone group of implementors > got it > right (or wrong) in the past doesn't mean

Re: draft-duerst-iana-namespace-00.txt

2008-03-03 Thread Julian Reschke
Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > ... > Yes. I suggest (continuing the first paragraph of section 7): > > On the client side, implementors MUST use the existing solutions to > limit the rate of access to the origin server. They include: > > * ability to use HTTP caching ([RFC 2616], section 13) > * lo

Re: draft-duerst-iana-namespace-00.txt

2008-03-03 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 05:00:54PM +0100, Julian Reschke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote a message of 21 lines which said: > Hm, we are talking about XML namespace names, not DTD URIs. I do not see the difference. XML catalogs, for instance, are also explicitely made for XML namespace names. But,

Re: draft-duerst-iana-namespace-00.txt

2008-03-04 Thread Tom.Petch
- Original Message - From: "Julian Reschke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Stephane Bortzmeyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Tony Finch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 5:00 PM Subject: Re: draft-duerst-iana-namespace-00.txt > St

Re: draft-duerst-iana-namespace-00.txt

2008-03-04 Thread Julian Reschke
Tom.Petch wrote: >> Hm, we are talking about XML namespace names, not DTD URIs. >> >> XML processors are not supposed to resolve them, so it seems strange to >> insert requirements for clients that do so. >> > Welcome as this is, why is this I-D limited to XML namespace names? What > about > XML

Re: draft-duerst-iana-namespace-00.txt

2008-03-04 Thread Frank Ellermann
Julian Reschke wrote: > Pardon my ignorance, but what is an XML Schema name? No pardon, but a guess s/name/location/ as in: xmlns:use="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance"; use:schemaLocation="http://www.sitemaps.org/schemas/sitemap/0.9 http://www.sitemaps.org/schemas/sitemap/0.9/sitei

Re: draft-duerst-iana-namespace-00.txt

2008-03-04 Thread Tom.Petch
- Original Message - From: "Julian Reschke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Tom.Petch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Stephane Bortzmeyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "ietf" Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 6:16 PM Subject: Re: draft-duerst-iana-nam

Re: draft-duerst-iana-namespace-00.txt

2008-03-05 Thread Julian Reschke
Tom.Petch wrote: >> Pardon my ignorance, but what is an XML Schema name? I >> > > As defined in RFC3688, which sets up namespaces for > XML namespaces > XML schema > XML rdfschema > XML publicid > all using the URI scheme urn: OK. The registries for rdfschema is unused, the one for publicid

Re: draft-duerst-iana-namespace-00.txt

2008-03-05 Thread Ned Freed
> Ned Freed wrote: > > By all means do so if you want, but IMO it's a waste of time. It's like > > that > > cautionary line finance folks use: Past performance is not a reliable > > indication of future results. Just because someone group of implementors > > got it > > right (or wrong) in the past

Re: draft-duerst-iana-namespace-00.txt

2008-03-05 Thread Frank Ellermann
Julian Reschke wrote: > The registries for rdfschema is unused, the one for publicid only > contains a single entry for a legacy (1997) version of HTML. In theory the RFC 2629 DTD should be added. In practice a bad idea, because this DTD is still a moving target. The CharmapML DTDs could be c