Re: [ietf-dkim] ADSP Informative Note on parent domain signing

2009-05-01 Thread Barry Leiba
OK... there hasn't been anything more on this thread for a week, so it's time to tally. And I'm afraid the tally tells us little more than what we had: Include the informative note: 3 Do not include it: 4 No opinion: 5 This doesn't make for rough consensus in any direction. I'm inclined, as

[ietf-dkim] To meet, or not, in Stockholm

2009-05-01 Thread Barry Leiba
It's time for us to figure out whether we should request a session at IETF 75 in Stockholm. Stephen and I will both be there, so that's not a limiting factor. We should have all the current documents except for deployment with the IESG or RFC Editor by then, and we're not likely to need

[ietf-dkim] Whither 4871bis?

2009-05-01 Thread Barry Leiba
This is the promised seed for 4871bis discussion. Is the group ready to move ahead with that? Is the DKIM signing protocol ready to go to Draft Standard? Is there an update needed, with another cycle at Proposed Standard? Is there energy in the group to follow a 4871bis effort through? Please

[ietf-dkim] The real (remaining) errata

2009-05-01 Thread Barry Leiba
Apart from the item that resulted in the errata draft, now heading to the IESG as an update to 4871, there are a bunch of other non-controversial errata that Pasi needs a response to. Will the 4871 authors please handle those, so the working group and Pasi can clear them? Barry (as chair)

Re: [ietf-dkim] ADSP Informative Note on parent domain signing

2009-05-01 Thread Al Iverson
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Barry Leiba barryle...@computer.org wrote: OK... there hasn't been anything more on this thread for a week, so it's time to tally.  And I'm afraid the tally tells us little more than what we had: Include the informative note:  3 Do not include it: 4 No

Re: [ietf-dkim] Lingering discussion on draft-ietf-dkim-rfc4871-errata

2009-05-01 Thread Barry Leiba
(I've changed the subject to take this out of the thread where it didn't belong.) On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Doug Otis doug.mtv...@gmail.com wrote: Forgive the confusion about what was to be accomplished by the errata now heading to the IESG.  There was a vote in SF to _not_ make

Re: [ietf-dkim] The real (remaining) errata

2009-05-01 Thread Barry Leiba
already nodded in agreement to a number of the non-controversial errata, and we had discussed that at IETF 73.  What's the process to clear the obvious ones? Checking... Barry ___ NOTE WELL: This list operates according to

Re: [ietf-dkim] ADSP Informative Note on parent domain signing

2009-05-01 Thread Jim Fenton
Barry Leiba wrote: OK... there hasn't been anything more on this thread for a week, so it's time to tally. And I'm afraid the tally tells us little more than what we had: Include the informative note: 3 Do not include it: 4 No opinion: 5 This doesn't make for rough consensus in any

Re: [ietf-dkim] The real (remaining) errata

2009-05-01 Thread Jim Fenton
Barry Leiba wrote: Apart from the item that resulted in the errata draft, now heading to the IESG as an update to 4871, there are a bunch of other non-controversial errata that Pasi needs a response to. Will the 4871 authors please handle those, so the working group and Pasi can clear them?

Re: [ietf-dkim] Whither 4871bis?

2009-05-01 Thread Michael Thomas
Barry Leiba wrote: This is the promised seed for 4871bis discussion. Is the group ready to move ahead with that? Is the DKIM signing protocol ready to go to Draft Standard? Is there an update needed, with another cycle at Proposed Standard? Is there energy in the group to follow a 4871bis

Re: [ietf-dkim] Lingering discussion on draft-ietf-dkim-rfc4871-errata

2009-05-01 Thread Doug Otis
On May 1, 2009, at 11:43 AM, Barry Leiba wrote: On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Doug Otis doug.mtv...@gmail.com wrote: The errata however, either through error or by intent, made a significant change to RFC 4871 by excluding the i= value from being information passed to the MUA. RFC

Re: [ietf-dkim] Whither 4871bis?

2009-05-01 Thread Tony Hansen
I'm certainly ready to move forward with 4871bis. Yes, the protocol is ready to go to Draft Standard. No, we do not need another cycle at Proposed Standard. I think there's enough energy in the group to get 4871bis through. As to why bother, with 16 errata to pore through, I feel that it is much