Re: [Ifeffit] Brain teaser

2023-06-15 Thread Anatoly Frenkel
HI Mike, it is dilute Pd in Au nanoparticles deposited on SiO2 with about 5% metal weight loading. In my view, the lack of curvature in transmission (the original problem in my post) is a simple consequence of two opposite trends, 1) the curving up of the transmission signal by the same reason

Re: [Ifeffit] Brain teaser

2023-06-15 Thread Mike Massey
A question because I'm not really super clear on how harmonics work: (I'll get to the question in a moment...) I note that I0 starts to go non-linear around 12200-12400 eV and stays that way. So an increase (proportional?) in the amount of signal in It might be happening at around the same

Re: [Ifeffit] Brain teaser

2023-06-15 Thread Matt Newville
Hi Anatoly, I think Robert or Matthew made this point, but if set up for Pd, the mirror angle may have been chosen to reject ~70 keV, but possibly not 36 keV -- the harmonic at the Au edge. Do you know what the mirror angle was? The Ar-filled I0 would be very efficient at absorbing 12 keV, and

Re: [Ifeffit] [Ext] Re: Brain teaser

2023-06-15 Thread Anatoly Frenkel
But collimating mirror is in the front end. AnatolyOn Jun 15, 2023, at 10:52 AM, Carlo Segre wrote:I would have guessed that the increase in I0 is primarily due to Pt fluorescence.  The yield does increase as the energy rises.CarloOn Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 9:45 AM Matt Newville

Re: [Ifeffit] Brain teaser

2023-06-15 Thread Anatoly Frenkel
Thank you, Matt. Ion chambers were filled with 90% Ar, and Pt coating was used, because we were measuring Pd K edge for the project, but we decided to look at the Au edge for testing purposes. AnatolyOn Jun 15, 2023, at 10:45 AM, Matt Newville wrote:I'm not sure why the intensity would go up

Re: [Ifeffit] [Ext] Re: Brain teaser

2023-06-15 Thread Carlo Segre
I would have guessed that the increase in I0 is primarily due to Pt fluorescence. The yield does increase as the energy rises. Carlo On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 9:45 AM Matt Newville wrote: > I'm not sure why the intensity would go up unless the ion chamber was > poorly set up. But, as others

Re: [Ifeffit] Brain teaser

2023-06-15 Thread Matt Newville
I'm not sure why the intensity would go up unless the ion chamber was poorly set up. But, as others have pointed out, the mirror reflectivity for a Pt mirror should not change significantly over this energy range - the energy range is not that close to the Pt L3 or L2 edges.Depending on

Re: [Ifeffit] [Ext] Brain teaser

2023-06-15 Thread Anatoly Frenkel
Thank you, Robert, Matthew, Jeff, Kirill, Terry and Sirine for great suggestions. I initially thought that the explanation for the linearity or the transmission signal is a superposition of two opposite trends: 1) increase of flux with energy due to the mirror effect and 2) similar decrease

Re: [Ifeffit] Brain teaser

2023-06-15 Thread Kirill LOMACHENKO
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Re: [Ifeffit] [Ext] Brain teaser

2023-06-15 Thread matthew marcus
The mirror was set up for a run at the Pd K-edge, according to the problem statement. Therefore, its nominal angle must be such as to put the critical energy >25keV. An angle of 3mrad would do it. At that angle, the reflectivity (assuming no roughness) goes up with energy in the relevant