Re: [Ilugc] [OT] MacBook Air, Ubuntu, VirtualBox ....

2011-08-24 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 08/22/2011 08:15 PM, Arun SAG wrote: > According to co-founder of stackoverflow.com jeff atwood, SSD's are both > hot and can drive you crazy > http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2011/05/the-hot-crazy-solid-state-drive-scale.html > that is based on anecdotal evidence. Its like I saw a man climb u

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] MacBook Air, Ubuntu, VirtualBox ....

2011-08-24 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 08/22/2011 07:43 PM, Sidu Ponnappa wrote: > Get an external drive and setup Time-machine as your #1 priority and > sync everyday. SSDs fail frequently. > There are people who say this, do you have some evidence on hand to say they fail more often than regular sata disks ? I manage machines wit

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] MacBook Air, Ubuntu, VirtualBox ....

2011-08-24 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 08/19/2011 06:54 AM, Manokaran K wrote: > The change of environment that am comfortable with is defenitely weighing on > my mind! I did not know we can run Mac OSX in a virtual machine. Is it just > downloadable? In which case I'll check out ThinkPad X220. If you are looking at options, conside

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] MacBook Air, Ubuntu, VirtualBox ....

2011-08-24 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 08/18/2011 04:30 PM, 0 wrote: > Also, SSDs are so overrated. It definitely makes the laptop lighter and > reduces the power consumption but its not worth the price. I can't wait > to see them replaced by PRAM/PCM based storage. > I strongly disagree. Having used ssd's on server hardware for a

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] MacBook Air, Ubuntu, VirtualBox ....

2011-08-24 Thread ashwin kesavan
On 24 August 2011 13:49, Shaahul Hameed wrote: > On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 10:18 PM, ashwin kesavan wrote: > >> >> I am happy with Ubuntu  on Thinkpad T400. May be i >> might switch to Fedora . >> >> with regards, >> ashwin .. > Today its a Lenovo Thinkpad (and not an IBM). Has this affect

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] MacBook Air, Ubuntu, VirtualBox ....

2011-08-24 Thread Shaahul Hameed
On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 10:18 PM, ashwin kesavan wrote: > > I am happy with Ubuntu on Thinkpad T400. May be i > might switch to Fedora . > > with regards, > ashwin I have a question on Thinkpads since there have been numerous mentions of them in this thread. Thinkpads were associated with IBM

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] MacBook Air, Ubuntu, VirtualBox ....

2011-08-24 Thread ashwin kesavan
. > May be.. if you look at it that way. But at the end of the day, any product > can break and, in my opinion, a good service is a must and Dell provides > that. > > In the last weekend's rain, I think, one of the power lines got hit by > lightning and there was a power surge. Both my UPSes we

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] MacBook Air, Ubuntu, VirtualBox ....

2011-08-23 Thread 0
>> - 2005 hard disk, clicking noise: hard disk replaced (2 days) >> - 2006 got kingston memory& dell confirmed warranty not void >> - 2007 video fan not working: fan was replaced (2 days) >> - 2009 power input pin lose: AC adapter& motherboard replaced (2 days) >> - 2010 one strand of hair went i

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] MacBook Air, Ubuntu, VirtualBox ....

2011-08-22 Thread Sidu Ponnappa
>> And what is this claim based on? > According to co-founder of stackoverflow.com jeff atwood, SSD's are both > hot and can drive you crazy > http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2011/05/the-hot-crazy-solid-state-drive-scale.html That's the one I was going to reference too. Best, Sidu. http://c42.in

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] MacBook Air, Ubuntu, VirtualBox ....

2011-08-22 Thread Akilan R
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 12:27 AM, Karthik Narayanaswami wrote: > SSD lives, even pushed to max write > rates, have been shown to average 7+ years, which is higher than most > storages. > Arun SAG has already given the citation, but I might add one more bit here. SSD is nothing more than a fancy b

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] MacBook Air, Ubuntu, VirtualBox ....

2011-08-22 Thread Manokaran K
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 12:13 AM, Sidu Ponnappa wrote: > Get an external drive and setup Time-machine as your #1 priority and > sync everyday. SSDs fail frequently. > > Thanks, Sidu. Am buying one today. regds, mano ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] MacBook Air, Ubuntu, VirtualBox ....

2011-08-22 Thread Arun SAG
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 12:27 AM, Karthik Narayanaswami wrote: > > >And what is this claim based on? Most claims on SSD failure rates have > been > >shown to be exaggerations at best. SSD lives, even pushed to max write > >rates, have been shown to average 7+ years, which is higher than most > >

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] MacBook Air, Ubuntu, VirtualBox ....

2011-08-22 Thread Karthik Narayanaswami
> SSDs fail frequently. And what is this claim based on? Most claims on SSD failure rates have been shown to be exaggerations at best. SSD lives, even pushed to max write rates, have been shown to average 7+ years, which is higher than most storages. Personally, I've been using SSDs for backups

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] MacBook Air, Ubuntu, VirtualBox ....

2011-08-22 Thread Sidu Ponnappa
Get an external drive and setup Time-machine as your #1 priority and sync everyday. SSDs fail frequently. Best, Sidu. http://c42.in On 22 August 2011 21:46, Manokaran K wrote: > Bit the bullet and shelled out 74K for a 13" MacBook Air with 128GB SSD. > First impression is pretty good. I think sa

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] MacBook Air, Ubuntu, VirtualBox ....

2011-08-22 Thread ashwin kesavan
On 19 August 2011 16:00, 0 <0...@0throot.com> wrote: > Haven't heard good things about Lenovo customer care. If you are ok with > a windows/linux laptop then I recommend dell with the right coverage > options. I have used dell since 2005 and I have availed their service > several times and i h

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] MacBook Air, Ubuntu, VirtualBox ....

2011-08-22 Thread ashwin kesavan
On 18 August 2011 18:31, Sidu Ponnappa wrote: > You may want to purchase it in the US as that works out about 20% > cheaper and the warranty is global anyway. Remember to add the cost of > AppleCare to the price of the laptop while budgeting. Also, apple > branded hardware upgrades and access

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] MacBook Air, Ubuntu, VirtualBox ....

2011-08-22 Thread Manokaran K
Bit the bullet and shelled out 74K for a 13" MacBook Air with 128GB SSD. First impression is pretty good. I think saying anything more would be considered seditious on this list :-) Much thanks to all for helping me make my decision. mano -- Computers are useless. They can only give you answers

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] MacBook Air, Ubuntu, VirtualBox ....

2011-08-20 Thread kenneth gonsalves
On Sun, 2011-08-21 at 02:12 +0800, Bharathi Subramanian wrote: > On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 2:37 PM, Vamsee Kanakala wrote: > > > +1 for ThinkPad reliability. > > +1. I own 3 ThinkPads (R61e, T400, x220). Very reliable and stable > machine. you have started using laptops??? -- regards Kenneth Gon

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] MacBook Air, Ubuntu, VirtualBox ....

2011-08-20 Thread Bharathi Subramanian
On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 2:37 PM, Vamsee Kanakala wrote: > +1 for ThinkPad reliability. +1. I own 3 ThinkPads (R61e, T400, x220). Very reliable and stable machine. Bye :) -- Bharathi Subramanian ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] MacBook Air, Ubuntu, VirtualBox ....

2011-08-19 Thread Vamsee Kanakala
On Friday 19 August 2011 07:04 PM, Sidu Ponnappa wrote: > > I know people with ThinkPads that have gone for three or four years > without any repairs at all. Macs aren't as reliable, but they come > close. +1 for ThinkPad reliability. I bought (an economy model at that - R51e, if I'm not wrong) w

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] MacBook Air, Ubuntu, VirtualBox ....

2011-08-19 Thread kenneth gonsalves
On Sat, 2011-08-20 at 03:00 +0530, krish wrote: > > Haven't heard good things about Lenovo customer care. > > > +1 > I've had very bad experiences with them regarding Lenovo x120e laptop. > A > trauma of 25 days. looks like laptops and you do not get on well. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] MacBook Air, Ubuntu, VirtualBox ....

2011-08-19 Thread kenneth gonsalves
On Fri, 2011-08-19 at 22:33 +0530, Manokaran K wrote: > > 3 years with acer - power adapter died after 2 years - bought a new > one. > > That's it. (and it came with linux). > > > > > I have an Acer now (a TM 6292) and an Aspire One. Problem with both is > that > it gets very hot - even the keys

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] MacBook Air, Ubuntu, VirtualBox ....

2011-08-19 Thread krish
> > > Haven't heard good things about Lenovo customer care. +1 I've had very bad experiences with them regarding Lenovo x120e laptop. A trauma of 25 days. -- krish ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] MacBook Air, Ubuntu, VirtualBox ....

2011-08-19 Thread krish
> 3 years with acer - power adapter died after 2 years - bought a new one. > That's it. (and it came with linux). > 2 years with acer and I ran 7 times to their service center in first 3 months with LCD issues, then heating issue and finally keyboard. Sold my laptop after that. -- krish __

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] MacBook Air, Ubuntu, VirtualBox ....

2011-08-19 Thread Vignesh Nandha Kumar
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 10:33 PM, Manokaran K wrote: > > I have an Acer now (a TM 6292) and an Aspire One. Problem with both is that > it gets very hot - even the keys are hot to touch. > > What model are you using? And what's your exp? > I have an Acer Aspire 5745, with Ubuntu 11.04 and I use

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] MacBook Air, Ubuntu, VirtualBox ....

2011-08-19 Thread Manokaran K
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 4:14 PM, kenneth gonsalves wrote: > On Fri, 2011-08-19 at 16:00 +0530, 0 wrote: > > > Hows the service / support from Lenovo? > > > > > 3 years with acer - power adapter died after 2 years - bought a new one. > That's it. (and it came with linux). > I have an Acer now (a

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] MacBook Air, Ubuntu, VirtualBox ....

2011-08-19 Thread Vignesh Nandha Kumar
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Sidu Ponnappa wrote: > I want a reliable machine that I > allows me to stay focussed on my work while providing a good > experience. I don't want to have to mess around with X just to plug in > a projector or to have a dual display. > I agree with some of your po

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] MacBook Air, Ubuntu, VirtualBox ....

2011-08-19 Thread Sidu Ponnappa
> Suppose I make my Macbook a dual boot machine, does it void Apple's > warranty? Not if you use Bootcamp, the dual boot software that ships with OSX. The catch is that it is literally dual boot - only one other OS besides OSX. > If you are going to use the computer for web development, I would sa

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] MacBook Air, Ubuntu, VirtualBox ....

2011-08-19 Thread kenneth gonsalves
On Fri, 2011-08-19 at 16:00 +0530, 0 wrote: > > Hows the service / support from Lenovo? > > > > Haven't heard good things about Lenovo customer care. If you are ok > with > a windows/linux laptop then I recommend dell with the right coverage > options. I have used dell since 2005 and I have avai

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] MacBook Air, Ubuntu, VirtualBox ....

2011-08-19 Thread 0
> The change of environment that am comfortable with is defenitely weighing on > my mind! I did not know we can run Mac OSX in a virtual machine. Is it just > downloadable? In which case I'll check out ThinkPad X220. > > Hows the service / support from Lenovo? > Haven't heard good things about Len

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] MacBook Air, Ubuntu, VirtualBox ....

2011-08-19 Thread Sarma Tangirala
If you aren't writing code for OS X and thinking of dual boot, you could get a windows machine and use the extra money to buy an external moniter unless you WANT a mac. Sent from my Android. On 19 Aug 2011 12:28, "krish" wrote: > Leave the OSX in peace; use Virtualbox or VMWare and if you need ev

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] MacBook Air, Ubuntu, VirtualBox ....

2011-08-19 Thread Arun Venkataswamy
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 12:28 PM, krish wrote: > Leave the OSX in peace; use Virtualbox or VMWare and if you need everything > seamless.. pay for VMWare commercial version. > > +1 You can also use Parallels Desktop http://www.parallels.com/products/desktop/ It works great. Regards, Arun

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] MacBook Air, Ubuntu, VirtualBox ....

2011-08-19 Thread Arun Venkataswamy
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 11:19 AM, kenneth gonsalves wrote: > On Fri, 2011-08-19 at 10:52 +0530, Karthikeyan S wrote: > > planning to create videos/movies, you can buy Mac system. > > linux is not good enough? > Probably. The bundled audio visual apps which come along with any Mac is incredible.

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] MacBook Air, Ubuntu, VirtualBox ....

2011-08-18 Thread krish
Leave the OSX in peace; use Virtualbox or VMWare and if you need everything seamless.. pay for VMWare commercial version. I've worked with guys who are pure mac addicts and use Windows and Linux on paid VMWare as they write code that needs to work on all 3 platforms. Imho, that's the best way to

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] MacBook Air, Ubuntu, VirtualBox ....

2011-08-18 Thread Manokaran K
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Akilan R wrote: > On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Manokaran K wrote: > > > I did not know we can run Mac OSX in a virtual machine. > > > > Two things. 1) It is more difficult than running Windows or GNU/Linux in a > virtual machine. 2) It is *illegal.* > > > >

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] MacBook Air, Ubuntu, VirtualBox ....

2011-08-18 Thread Akilan R
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Manokaran K wrote: > I did not know we can run Mac OSX in a virtual machine. > Two things. 1) It is more difficult than running Windows or GNU/Linux in a virtual machine. 2) It is *illegal.* > Is it just > downloadable? > Yes. You can purchase and download at

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] MacBook Air, Ubuntu, VirtualBox ....

2011-08-18 Thread Manokaran K
Thanks, everyone, for all the useful suggestions. The change of environment that am comfortable with is defenitely weighing on my mind! I did not know we can run Mac OSX in a virtual machine. Is it just downloadable? In which case I'll check out ThinkPad X220. Hows the service / support from Leno

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] MacBook Air, Ubuntu, VirtualBox ....

2011-08-18 Thread kenneth gonsalves
On Fri, 2011-08-19 at 10:52 +0530, Karthikeyan S wrote: > Am going to use it for web development >>> If you are going to use the computer for web development, I > would say > don't buy Mac because it's too expensive for your requirement. If you > are > planning to create videos/movies, you can

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] MacBook Air, Ubuntu, VirtualBox ....

2011-08-18 Thread Karthikeyan S
Am going to use it for web development >> If you are going to use the computer for web development, I would say don't buy Mac because it's too expensive for your requirement. If you are planning to create videos/movies, you can buy Mac system. ___ ILU

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] MacBook Air, Ubuntu, VirtualBox ....

2011-08-18 Thread 0
> Am planning to go in for a new laptop. I have done some research and to me > it seems the new MacBook Air (i5, 4GB, 13", 1.35Kgs, 128GB SSD) is a good > buy! Am going to use it for web development Its fun playing around and installing a lot of stuff but eventually you just end up using only thi

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] MacBook Air, Ubuntu, VirtualBox ....

2011-08-18 Thread Sidu Ponnappa
Oh, I should point out that I'd vote for the TP X220 over the Apple too if you travel a lot. Nothing more robust than an ThinkPad. > But that's just me, so the best option would be to borrow a Mac for a while > (and setup your work environment on it) Remember that it takes at least a couple of we

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] MacBook Air, Ubuntu, VirtualBox ....

2011-08-18 Thread Raja Subramanian
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 6:59 PM, Vamsee Kanakala wrote: > give me the same money, I'd buy a ThinkPad X220 with SSD option and run > Ubuntu (or Arch, if you're hard core :D) and run VirtualBox for Win7/Mac > OSX needs, etc. +1 for the Thinkpad. - Raja _

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] MacBook Air, Ubuntu, VirtualBox ....

2011-08-18 Thread Vamsee Kanakala
On Thursday 18 August 2011 06:31 PM, Sidu Ponnappa wrote: > I'll second Kenneth on OSX == BSD and that you don't really need > Linux. I've been developing on OSX since '08 for software that is > deployed to Linux servers with no problems. I was just going to suggest Mano to post in the Chennai.rb/

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] MacBook Air, Ubuntu, VirtualBox ....

2011-08-18 Thread Sidu Ponnappa
I'll second Kenneth on OSX == BSD and that you don't really need Linux. I've been developing on OSX since '08 for software that is deployed to Linux servers with no problems. It's as good as a BSD box, but with better user experience and it's also the finest hardware you can buy in that form factor

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] MacBook Air, Ubuntu, VirtualBox ....

2011-08-18 Thread Arun SAG
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Manokaran K wrote: > Hi, > > >Am planning to go in for a new laptop. I have done some research and to me > >it seems the new MacBook Air (i5, 4GB, 13", 1.35Kgs, 128GB SSD) is a good > >buy! > > OT: SSD's are good if you want speed and performance, but the failure

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] MacBook Air, Ubuntu, VirtualBox ....

2011-08-18 Thread kenneth gonsalves
On Thu, 2011-08-18 at 12:57 +0530, Manokaran K wrote: > Am planning to go in for a new laptop. I have done some research and > to me > it seems the new MacBook Air (i5, 4GB, 13", 1.35Kgs, 128GB SSD) is a > good > buy! Am going to use it for web development and am considering the > following > optio

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] MacBook Air, Ubuntu, VirtualBox ....

2011-08-18 Thread PV Sundarram
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Manokaran K wrote: > Hi, > > Am planning to go in for a new laptop. I have done some research and to me > it seems the new MacBook Air (i5, 4GB, 13", 1.35Kgs, 128GB SSD) is a good > buy! Am going to use it for web development and am considering the > following >

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] MacBook Air, Ubuntu, VirtualBox ....

2011-08-18 Thread Manokaran K
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Manokaran K wrote: > > > Weight is a big criteria for me and considering Toshiba Portege, which > weighs the same, costs 72K (with regular HDD), I felt its not bad. Also, I > need a mac because I have been getting feedback that my web app does not > work as expect

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] MacBook Air, Ubuntu, VirtualBox ....

2011-08-18 Thread Manokaran K
Thanks for the feedback, Bala. On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 1:19 PM, balachandar muruganantham < mbchan...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Manokaran K wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Am planning to go in for a new laptop. I have done some research and to > me > > it seems the new MacBo

Re: [Ilugc] [OT] MacBook Air, Ubuntu, VirtualBox ....

2011-08-18 Thread balachandar muruganantham
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Manokaran K wrote: > Hi, > > Am planning to go in for a new laptop. I have done some research and to me > it seems the new MacBook Air (i5, 4GB, 13", 1.35Kgs, 128GB SSD) is a good > buy! Good choice. but Expensive if you buy in INDIA. > Am going to use it for

[Ilugc] [OT] MacBook Air, Ubuntu, VirtualBox ....

2011-08-18 Thread Manokaran K
Hi, Am planning to go in for a new laptop. I have done some research and to me it seems the new MacBook Air (i5, 4GB, 13", 1.35Kgs, 128GB SSD) is a good buy! Am going to use it for web development and am considering the following options: 1. Make it a dual boot OSX and Ubuntu system 2. Use Virtua