Re: [Ilugc] FOSS Lab Setup in Vellalar College of Engineering and Technology, Thindal, Erode District

2010-11-22 Thread Baskar Selvaraj
> What are the topics you are going to take in the FDP. > If possible I may able to help you to get some volunteers from CBE region > > Introduction to FOSS MySQL PHP Python PERL Refer Anna University, Coimbatore syllabus for CSE, page 15 and 21 http://www.annauniv.ac.in/syllab_curriculam_pdf/200

Re: [Ilugc] FOSS Lab Setup in Vellalar College of Engineering and Technology, Thindal, Erode District

2010-11-22 Thread Baskar Selvaraj
> > How will you define a qualified trainer ?? >> >> > As FDP is all about training faculties, I am looking for trainers who is > good in technical as well in presentation. (I received few mails offlist, > saying that the person has been using Linux for past 6 months/1 year and > interested in doin

Re: [Ilugc] FOSS Lab Setup in Vellalar College of Engineering and Technology, Thindal, Erode District

2010-11-22 Thread JAGANADH G
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 9:01 PM, Baskar Selvaraj wrote: > > > > > How will you define a qualified trainer ?? > > > > > As FDP is all about training faculties, I am looking for trainers who is > good in technical as well in presentation. (I received few mails offlist, > saying that the person has b

Re: [Ilugc] FOSS Lab Setup in Vellalar College of Engineering and Technology, Thindal, Erode District

2010-11-22 Thread Baskar Selvaraj
> > How will you define a qualified trainer ?? > > As FDP is all about training faculties, I am looking for trainers who is good in technical as well in presentation. (I received few mails offlist, saying that the person has been using Linux for past 6 months/1 year and interested in doing FDP in

Re: [Ilugc] FOSS Lab Setup in Vellalar College of Engineering and Technology, Thindal, Erode District

2010-11-22 Thread JAGANADH G
> Now, 6 engg. colleges have requested for Faculty Development Programme on > FOSS in the month of December (all at the same time). I am really finding > it > difficult to get qualified trainers for successfully conducting these FDPs. > > How will you define a qualified trainer ?? --

Re: [Ilugc] FOSS Lab Setup in Vellalar College of Engineering and Technology, Thindal, Erode District

2010-11-13 Thread Vijai Ganapathy
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 7:47 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > On Sun, 2010-11-14 at 07:11 +0530, Vijai Ganapathy wrote: >> let me know if you have any questions, > > I have one question - how is it that you are unable to understand the > disruption caused by continous top posting? > -- My apologies.

Re: [Ilugc] FOSS Lab Setup in Vellalar College of Engineering and Technology, Thindal, Erode District

2010-11-13 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Sun, 2010-11-14 at 07:11 +0530, Vijai Ganapathy wrote: > let me know if you have any questions, I have one question - how is it that you are unable to understand the disruption caused by continous top posting? -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com ___

Re: [Ilugc] FOSS Lab Setup in Vellalar College of Engineering and Technology, Thindal, Erode District

2010-11-13 Thread Vijai Ganapathy
Hi Baskar, I am really sorry that nobody replied to that email. btw. I have used cobbler [ https://fedorahosted.org/cobbler/ ] in a production environment ( 300+ Servers) . Please have a look at the screenshot. https://fedorahosted.org/cobbler/attachment/wiki/CobblerWebInterface/Screenshot.png. T

Re: [Ilugc] FOSS Lab Setup in Vellalar College of Engineering and Technology, Thindal, Erode District

2010-11-13 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Sat, 2010-11-13 at 11:26 +0530, km wrote: > It would be very helpful if the event organizers can tell what they > have done and the students/audience feedback rather than flashing > number of events organized and thinking themselves, that itself is a > great service. this is not a true spirit

Re: [Ilugc] FOSS Lab Setup in Vellalar College of Engineering and Technology, Thindal, Erode District

2010-11-13 Thread Baskar Selvaraj
> > > Your attitude sounds gives me a feeling of a monotonous lab setup (as > seen with windows based lab setups). > > As many engg. colleges have bought our FOSS lab server, we provide nearly 20+ major distributions (all major distro listed in distrowatch.com) with complete repositories of those

Re: [Ilugc] FOSS Lab Setup in Vellalar College of Engineering and Technology, Thindal, Erode District

2010-11-13 Thread Baskar Selvaraj
> > On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 12:32 +0530, openbala wrote: > > Well, I may be wrong here, but setting up FOSS lab might be OP's > > fulltime job. He has total rights to do want he wants and how he wants > > to do his job. Free advice is easy. > > you are hundred percent right - what OP needs is people

Re: [Ilugc] FOSS Lab Setup in Vellalar College of Engineering and Technology, Thindal, Erode District

2010-11-12 Thread Baskar Selvaraj
> > > > > http://linuxbaskar.googlepages.com/ks-f13.cfg-4500 > Why only Fedora ? why not popular linux distributions like ubuntu ? > or debian ? with ~30k packages ??? > In most engg. colleges, the choice of distro is mainly decided by sys. admins / lab assistants (their most preferred choice is R

Re: [Ilugc] FOSS Lab Setup in Vellalar College of Engineering and Technology, Thindal, Erode District

2010-11-12 Thread Raman.P
--- On Sat, 13/11/10, km wrote: > Thats the main point. it looks like there is no one enough > motivated > from the audience ! Does it mean I am doing great service > if I have > organized more FOSS events than those 75 events in 5 years > ? thats a > bizzare comparison. I don't understand what

Re: [Ilugc] FOSS Lab Setup in Vellalar College of Engineering and Technology, Thindal, Erode District

2010-11-12 Thread km
Hi, On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 6:01 AM, Raman.P wrote: > --- On Fri, 12/11/10, km wrote: > >> I think you are missing an important point. physical >> volunteers could >> be generated from the students/audience themselves, if >> motivated >> enough to use FOSS. > > I think you are missing the point.

Re: [Ilugc] FOSS Lab Setup in Vellalar College of Engineering and Technology, Thindal, Erode District

2010-11-12 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 20:09 +0530, Vijai Ganapathy wrote: > > > > Today our requirement is 'physical volunteers' and not > adivse/suggestion/ideas. We need foot solders, we have enough > commanders, strategic planners, thinkers, analysts etc. > > > > I can physically volunteer in week end's if am

Re: [Ilugc] FOSS Lab Setup in Vellalar College of Engineering and Technology, Thindal, Erode District

2010-11-12 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 18:41 +0530, km wrote: > I think you are missing an important point. physical volunteers could > be generated from the students/audience themselves, if motivated > enough to use FOSS. please share your experience in doing this with us. -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejourna

Re: [Ilugc] FOSS Lab Setup in Vellalar College of Engineering and Technology, Thindal, Erode District

2010-11-12 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 18:19 +0530, km wrote: > What is the point if one is unable to address the basic issues like > using editor(gedit/geany) raised in a demo session ? here is where I ask: how many interactive workshops have you conducted? -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com ___

Re: [Ilugc] FOSS Lab Setup in Vellalar College of Engineering and Technology, Thindal, Erode District

2010-11-12 Thread Raman.P
--- On Fri, 12/11/10, km wrote: > I think you are missing an important point. physical > volunteers could > be generated from the students/audience themselves, if > motivated > enough to use FOSS. I think you are missing the point. We need physical volunteers for motivating students/audience. W

Re: [Ilugc] FOSS Lab Setup in Vellalar College of Engineering and Technology, Thindal, Erode District

2010-11-12 Thread Vijai Ganapathy
> > Today our requirement is 'physical volunteers' and not > adivse/suggestion/ideas. We need foot solders, we have enough commanders, > strategic planners, thinkers, analysts etc. > I can physically volunteer in week end's if am given at least week prior information/notice. I hope most people

Re: [Ilugc] FOSS Lab Setup in Vellalar College of Engineering and Technology, Thindal, Erode District

2010-11-12 Thread Ma Sivakumar
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 6:41 PM, km wrote: > HI > > >> Today our requirement is 'physical volunteers' and not >> adivse/suggestion/ideas. We need foot solders, we have enough commanders, >> strategic planners, thinkers, analysts etc. > I think you are missing an important point. physical volunte

Re: [Ilugc] FOSS Lab Setup in Vellalar College of Engineering and Technology, Thindal, Erode District

2010-11-12 Thread km
HI On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Raman.P wrote: > --- On Fri, 12/11/10, openbala wrote: >> >> Well, I may be wrong here, but setting up FOSS lab might be >> OP's >> fulltime job. He has total rights to do want he wants and >> how he wants >> to do his job. Free advice is easy. >> >> Atleast,

Re: [Ilugc] FOSS Lab Setup in Vellalar College of Engineering and Technology, Thindal, Erode District

2010-11-12 Thread km
Hi, On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 12:42 +0530, Ma Sivakumar wrote: >> On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 12:32 PM, openbala >> wrote: >> > >> > Well, I may be wrong here, but setting up FOSS lab might be OP's >> > fulltime job. He has total rights to do w

Re: [Ilugc] FOSS Lab Setup in Vellalar College of Engineering and Technology, Thindal, Erode District

2010-11-12 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 12:42 +0530, Ma Sivakumar wrote: > On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 12:32 PM, openbala > wrote: > > > > Well, I may be wrong here, but setting up FOSS lab might be OP's > > fulltime job. He has total rights to do want he wants and how he > wants > > to do his job. Free advice is easy.

Re: [Ilugc] FOSS Lab Setup in Vellalar College of Engineering and Technology, Thindal, Erode District

2010-11-12 Thread Raman.P
--- On Fri, 12/11/10, openbala wrote: > > Well, I may be wrong here, but setting up FOSS lab might be > OP's > fulltime job. He has total rights to do want he wants and > how he wants > to do his job. Free advice is easy. > > Atleast, I won't be very happy when someone else tells me > what to do

Re: [Ilugc] FOSS Lab Setup in Vellalar College of Engineering and Technology, Thindal, Erode District

2010-11-12 Thread km
Hi, On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 12:32 PM, openbala wrote: > On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 11:45 AM, km wrote: > >> Why only Fedora ? why not popular linux distributions like ubuntu ? >> or debian ? with ~30k packages ??? >> infact debian/ubuntu offers much more choices for packages for >> students. Debian

Re: [Ilugc] FOSS Lab Setup in Vellalar College of Engineering and Technology, Thindal, Erode District

2010-11-12 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 12:32 +0530, openbala wrote: > Well, I may be wrong here, but setting up FOSS lab might be OP's > fulltime job. He has total rights to do want he wants and how he wants > to do his job. Free advice is easy. you are hundred percent right - what OP needs is people to help to tr

Re: [Ilugc] FOSS Lab Setup in Vellalar College of Engineering and Technology, Thindal, Erode District

2010-11-11 Thread Ma Sivakumar
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 12:32 PM, openbala wrote: > > Well, I may be wrong here, but setting up FOSS lab might be OP's > fulltime job. He has total rights to do want he wants and how he wants > to do his job. Free advice is easy. You are right. Baskar does this as full time business. I agree with

Re: [Ilugc] FOSS Lab Setup in Vellalar College of Engineering and Technology, Thindal, Erode District

2010-11-11 Thread openbala
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 11:45 AM, km wrote: > Why only Fedora ? why not popular linux distributions like ubuntu ? > or debian ? with ~30k packages ??? > infact debian/ubuntu offers much more choices for packages for > students. Debian has been very popular with scientific community. > many people

Re: [Ilugc] FOSS Lab Setup in Vellalar College of Engineering and Technology, Thindal, Erode District

2010-11-11 Thread Vijai Ganapathy
yeap, that should be the ideal case. we should provide them option to choose what distro they want to use. I would suggest to use cobbler and put 3-4 distro's and ask student's for their choice of distro and install on fly. Regards, Vijai .G On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 11:45 AM, km wrote: > Hi, >

Re: [Ilugc] FOSS Lab Setup in Vellalar College of Engineering and Technology, Thindal, Erode District

2010-11-11 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 11:45 +0530, km wrote: > infact debian/ubuntu offers much more choices for packages for > students. Debian has been very popular with scientific community. > many people are no aware of such a wide variety of choice until one > looks at the categorized package list in debian/

Re: [Ilugc] FOSS Lab Setup in Vellalar College of Engineering and Technology, Thindal, Erode District

2010-11-11 Thread km
Hi, just my few thoughts on this thread. On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Baskar Selvaraj wrote: >> >> what do you mean by FOSS Lab setup? > > > The lab which is completely installed/equipped with all proprietary > equivalent FOSS tools for doing their practicals. > > >> What are the components

Re: [Ilugc] FOSS Lab Setup in Vellalar College of Engineering and Technology, Thindal, Erode District

2010-11-11 Thread Vijai Ganapathy
by any chance you are putting cobbler [ https://fedorahosted.org/cobbler/ ] for KS maintenance? On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Baskar Selvaraj wrote: >> >> what do you mean by FOSS Lab setup? > > > The lab which is completely installed/equipped with all proprietary > equivalent FOSS tools for

Re: [Ilugc] FOSS Lab Setup in Vellalar College of Engineering and Technology, Thindal, Erode District

2010-11-11 Thread Baskar Selvaraj
> > what do you mean by FOSS Lab setup? The lab which is completely installed/equipped with all proprietary equivalent FOSS tools for doing their practicals. > What are the components, OS, application you guys usually install? > Nearly 4500+ packages from Fedora-13 repository (refer the fedora

Re: [Ilugc] FOSS Lab Setup in Vellalar College of Engineering and Technology, Thindal, Erode District

2010-11-11 Thread Vijai Ganapathy
Just trying to understand. what do you mean by FOSS Lab setup? What are the components, OS, application you guys usually install? When you say setup, do you guys help them to setup or you do it all by your self. Regards, Vijai .G On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 10:21 AM, senthilraja P wrote: >> >> >>

Re: [Ilugc] FOSS Lab Setup in Vellalar College of Engineering and Technology, Thindal, Erode District

2010-11-11 Thread mohanraj velusamy
DEAR Sir , Fine .How r u? hope to be fine there ? mohanraj SysAdmin/UIT On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Baskar Selvaraj wrote: > Dear all, > > Today, myself and Mr. Balamurugan setup a 25 seat FOSS lab for Vellalar > College of Engineering and Technology, Thindal, Erode District, ( > http://w

Re: [Ilugc] FOSS Lab Setup in Vellalar College of Engineering and Technology, Thindal, Erode District

2010-11-10 Thread Baskar Selvaraj
> > First of all, i welcome this initiative of setting up exclusive foss lab. Thanks. > I > have few thoughts to share here.. > > - Setting up a foss lab should NOT be an end in itself. Our initiative of setting up FOSS lab is just a begining, and also to mark an end for the proprietary so

Re: [Ilugc] FOSS Lab Setup in Vellalar College of Engineering and Technology, Thindal, Erode District

2010-11-08 Thread senthilraja P
> > > Today, myself and Mr. Balamurugan setup a 25 seat FOSS lab for Vellalar > College of Engineering and Technology, Thindal, Erode District, ( > http://www.vellalar.com/Engg/index.htm) for the department of MCA using > Fedora-13. > > For any feedback, pl. contact Prof. L.M.Palanivelu / HOD-IT re

Re: [Ilugc] FOSS Lab Setup in Vellalar College of Engineering and Technology, Thindal, Erode District

2010-11-07 Thread Arun Kumar
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Baskar Selvaraj wrote: >> >> >> good show again, appreciated. Just a quick question, are you planning >> to form some kind of network of these colleges (the ones who >> established F/OSS labs setup) together for further interaction (may be >> in the future)? > > >

Re: [Ilugc] FOSS Lab Setup in Vellalar College of Engineering and Technology, Thindal, Erode District

2010-11-05 Thread Baskar Selvaraj
> > > good show again, appreciated. Just a quick question, are you planning > to form some kind of network of these colleges (the ones who > established F/OSS labs setup) together for further interaction (may be > in the future)? Yes, we have been creating a network among all the engg. colleges i

Re: [Ilugc] FOSS Lab Setup in Vellalar College of Engineering and Technology, Thindal, Erode District

2010-11-03 Thread Arun Kumar
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Baskar Selvaraj wrote: > Dear all, > > Today, myself and Mr. Balamurugan setup a 25 seat FOSS lab for Vellalar > College of Engineering and Technology, Thindal, Erode District, ( > http://www.vellalar.com/Engg/index.htm) for the department of MCA using > Fedora-13.

[Ilugc] FOSS Lab Setup in Vellalar College of Engineering and Technology, Thindal, Erode District

2010-11-03 Thread Baskar Selvaraj
Dear all, Today, myself and Mr. Balamurugan setup a 25 seat FOSS lab for Vellalar College of Engineering and Technology, Thindal, Erode District, ( http://www.vellalar.com/Engg/index.htm) for the department of MCA using Fedora-13. For any feedback, pl. contact Prof. L.M.Palanivelu / HOD-IT regard