On 08/22/2010 11:51 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote
> ok - so I am wrong. but not very wrong. I see 80 or so patents,
> apparently one in 2010, 2-3 in 2009 and all the rest several years ago.
> So either they have stopped writing innovative software or have stopped
> wasting their time (and lawyers fe
On 08/22/2010 02:28 PM, Narendra Sisodiya wrote:
>
> Am I correct If I say -- "Idea cannot be patented but once they are
> published they can be used as prior art for defensing purpose ?"
That is confusing. When people talk about "defensive patents", they are
refer to the policy of organizations
Hi,
On 08/22/2010 02:28 PM, Narendra Sisodiya wrote:
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 12:16 PM, steve wrote:
Defensive patenting is to create a patent on something so that you can
protect yourself from being sued.
Defensive publication is publication of an idea so that later on if someone
tries
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 12:16 PM, steve wrote:
>
> Defensive patenting is to create a patent on something so that you can
> protect yourself from being sued.
>
> Defensive publication is publication of an idea so that later on if someone
> tries to patent the idea, you can point to your publicati
Hi,
On 08/22/2010 11:56 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
I meant to paste:
http://www.defensivepublications.org/
That too is part of the Open Invention Network mentioned in my last
post.
aha - so you *can* do business in the US without getting patents!
Well, yes, you can. The ugly thing abo
On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 11:46 +0530, steve wrote:
> On 08/22/2010 11:29 AM, steve wrote:
> > To the OP, Rahul already mentioned defensive publication, for
> example:
> >
> > http://www.openpatents.net/
>
> sorry wrong url. That one is just to give up your
> idea for
> others to
On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 11:17 +0530, Arun SAG wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves
> wrote:
>
> >
> > >wow - sensational. So where are the patents? I would hate to think
> I am
> > >wrong about it not having patents.
> >
>
> As amachu said, you cannot do business in US these
Hi
On 08/22/2010 11:29 AM, steve wrote:
To the OP, Rahul already mentioned defensive publication, for example:
http://www.openpatents.net/
sorry wrong url. That one is just to give up your idea for
others to patent.
I meant to paste:
http://www.defensivepublications.or
Hi,
On 08/22/2010 10:50 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 10:44 +0530, Arun SAG wrote:
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves
wrote:
> >yes
>
Please read http://www.redhat.com/legal/patent_policy.html
wow - sensational. So where are the patents? I would h
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves
wrote:
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> >wow - sensational. So where are the patents? I would hate to think I am
> >wrong about it not having patents.
>
As amachu said, you cannot do business in US these days without having bunch
of patents in your pocket for your defence.
On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 10:44 +0530, Arun SAG wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves
> wrote:
>
> > >yes
> >
>
> Please read http://www.redhat.com/legal/patent_policy.html
wow - sensational. So where are the patents? I would hate to think I am
wrong about it not having paten
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves
wrote:
> >yes
>
Please read http://www.redhat.com/legal/patent_policy.html
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On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 10:28 +0530, Arun SAG wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves
> wrote:
>
> > >nope - Redhat conducts software business in the US - they are
> entirely
> > >free of sin. And I am pretty sure that Collabnet is the same.
> >
>
> You sure Red Hat doesn't hav
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves
wrote:
> >nope - Redhat conducts software business in the US - they are entirely
> >free of sin. And I am pretty sure that Collabnet is the same.
>
You sure Red Hat doesn't have any software patents?
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On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 10:04 +0530, Arun SAG wrote:
> Seems like if you want to do software business in united states, you
> have to
> commit the sin.
nope - Redhat conducts software business in the US - they are entirely
free of sin. And I am pretty sure that Collabnet is the same. Actually
quite
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 6:47 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves
wrote:
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> >so when other people do it it is evil. When you do it, it is necessary?
>
Here is what Gosling says about patents and sun micro systems,
"In Sun's early history, we didn't think much of patents. While there's a
kernel of good sense i
On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 02:51 +, ம.ஸ்ரீராமதாஸ் wrote:
> Kenneth Gonsalves writes:
> > so when other people do it it is evil. When you do it, it is
> necessary?
> > I have seen the same attitude towards open source also. We love to
> shout
> > from the rooftops about necessity for open source and
Kenneth Gonsalves writes:
> so when other people do it it is evil. When you do it, it is necessary?
> I have seen the same attitude towards open source also. We love to shout
> from the rooftops about necessity for open source and we only use free
> and open source software - but when we produce s
On Sat, 2010-08-21 at 13:45 +, ம.ஸ்ரீராமதாஸ் wrote:
> Patents are sin, eventually everyone has to commit it in today's
> scenario.
so when other people do it it is evil. When you do it, it is necessary?
I have seen the same attitude towards open source also. We love to shout
from the rooftops
Shrinivasan T writes:
> How can I protect my work from patented by someone?
If you could prove by some means, you did it before someone patented it.
Before granting any patent the Intellectual Property Rights Office, grants time
for stake holders to prevent it.
But practically tracking these ar
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