Re: [Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-15 Thread Raja Subramanian
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 12:45 PM, K.C. Ramakrishna wrote: > Most small IT service companies make tons of money with LAMP/Drupal/Joomla > etc. +1 In my recent adventures with Drupal and Wordpress, I find that there are several small companies which create great themes for Drupal, WordPress and m

Re: [Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-15 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 00:15 -0700, K.C. Ramakrishna wrote: > And yes, I live in upmarket place in Hyd, bought 42'LCD, Mitsubishi > Cedia, and tons of electronic goodies and all from FOSS consulting. I > make about 30%-40% more than my peers and we are completely FOSS - > ROR/Liferay/Alfresco. are

[Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-15 Thread K.C. Ramakrishna
We too are making quite a healthy living with Free software. There are a lot of cos. who do so too. You can charge USD/hr kind of rates even for Indian clients and most of them end up with solutions which are lesser than 50% of MS/Proprietary solutions. Most small IT service companies make tons

Re: [Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-14 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 20:16 +0530, balaji sivanath wrote: > >I still do not see where they are selling open source software - as > far > >as I can see is that all they are selling is their brand/trademark. > One > >can download all of their software for free and use and redistribute > it > >if one

Re: [Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-14 Thread Baskar Selvaraj
On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 12:10 +0530, Abishek Goda wrote: > > > he got the contract - I have no idea what fraction this was of the > > total > > > cost of setting up the network, but it would have been only a small > > > fraction. (btw, there is a company that charges 2.5 lakhs to set up > > a 60 > >

Re: [Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-14 Thread Raja Subramanian
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 8:39 PM, steve wrote: > Yes, that is true. The RHEL CD contains Red Hat trademarks which cannot be > redistributed by anyone except Red Hat. You can, if you wish to, remove all > the trademarks (even from the included binaries) and redistribute the CD. And this is precisel

Re: [Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-14 Thread steve
Hi, On 10/14/2010 08:16 PM, balaji sivanath wrote: > can you be more specific - the link to show where they sell open source > software > That's the one. RHEL is Red Hat Enterprise Linux. More on that page, and on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux I still do not

Re: [Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-14 Thread balaji sivanath
> > can you be more specific - the link to show where they sell open > source > > software > > > That's the one.  RHEL is Red Hat Enterprise Linux.  More on that page, > and on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux >I still do not see where they are selling open source software - a

Re: [Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-14 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2010/10/14 Kenneth Gonsalves > > indeed. And I like this: > > phpsh provides an interactive shell for PHP that features readline > history, tab completion, and quick access to documentation. It is > ironically written mostly in Python. > > I've shared this already. But I want to share it again.

Re: [Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-14 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 14:40 +0530, Joe Steeve wrote: > > they released tornado - the pure python webserver that runs their > > pages > > http://developers.facebook.com/opensource/ > > Its funny when fanaticism leads to shooting friends :) indeed. And I like this: phpsh provides an interactive

Re: [Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-14 Thread Joe Steeve
On 10/14/2010 02:34 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: >> and other code releases from google which more or less are heavily >> aimed at revenue generation . On FB , its the best "closed" company >> ever ! > > they released tornado - the pure python webserver that runs their > pages http://developers.f

Re: [Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-14 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 13:15 +0530, pavithran wrote: > On 14 October 2010 12:26, Roshan Mathews wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 11:39, Roshan Mathews > wrote: > > It seems that the largest contributors to F/OSS don't make their > money > > by selling support and/or software, but rather services

Re: [Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-14 Thread Balachandran Sivakumar
Hi, On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 1:15 PM, pavithran wrote: > > Oracle with its take over of sun has invaded into muddy waters . A > slashdot search of oracle will tell you its story . > True. It has practically killed open solaris and is suffocating other FOSS projects there. I heard its the

Re: [Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-14 Thread pavithran
On 14 October 2010 12:26, Roshan Mathews wrote: > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 11:39, Roshan Mathews wrote: > It seems that the largest contributors to F/OSS don't make their money > by selling support and/or software, but rather services built on them > - Google, Facebook. Google and Facebook should

Re: [Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-14 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 12:28 +0530, Roshan Mathews wrote: > > can you be more specific - the link to show where they sell open > source > > software > > > That's the one. RHEL is Red Hat Enterprise Linux. More on that page, > and on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux I still d

Re: [Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-14 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 12:26 +0530, Roshan Mathews wrote: > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 11:39, Roshan Mathews > wrote: > > There must be other companies which make money from Free and/or Open > > Source software, but it would be hard to imagine that (m)any of them > > have greater revenues than those g

Re: [Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-14 Thread Roshan Mathews
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 12:22, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 12:17 +0530, Roshan Mathews wrote: >> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 11:56, Kenneth Gonsalves >> wrote: >> > redhat does not sell software >> > >> http://www.redhat.com/rhel/ >> > can you be more specific - the link to show

Re: [Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-13 Thread Roshan Mathews
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 11:39, Roshan Mathews wrote: > There must be other companies which make money from Free and/or Open > Source software, but it would be hard to imagine that (m)any of them > have greater revenues than those generated by the largest grossing > closed source software. > It see

Re: [Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-13 Thread Abishek Goda
> he is doing it for a living i definitely need to meet him :) Abishek ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc

Re: [Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-13 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 12:17 +0530, Roshan Mathews wrote: > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 11:56, Kenneth Gonsalves > wrote: > > On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 11:39 +0530, Roshan Mathews wrote: > >> RedHat makes money (and profits) by selling Open > >> Source software, and support. > > > > redhat does not sell so

Re: [Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-13 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 12:10 +0530, Abishek Goda wrote: > > he got the contract - I have no idea what fraction this was of the > total > > cost of setting up the network, but it would have been only a small > > fraction. (btw, there is a company that charges 2.5 lakhs to set up > a 60 > > seat FOSS

Re: [Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-13 Thread Roshan Mathews
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 11:56, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 11:39 +0530, Roshan Mathews wrote: >> RedHat makes money (and profits) by selling Open >> Source software, and support. > > redhat does not sell software > http://www.redhat.com/rhel/ -- http://roshan.mathews.in/ ___

Re: [Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-13 Thread Abishek Goda
Hi, > he got the contract - I have no idea what fraction this was of the total > cost of setting up the network, but it would have been only a small > fraction. (btw, there is a company that charges 2.5 lakhs to set up a 60 > seat FOSS lab - and Basker does it free. So who makes more money?) Sorry

Re: [Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-13 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 11:43 +0530, Roshan Mathews wrote: > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 11:36, Kenneth Gonsalves > wrote: > > typical example: a friend was asked to quote for some complicated > > network setup. The windows people had quoted something like 8 lakhs > for > > software and 1.5 lakhs for in

Re: [Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-13 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 11:39 +0530, Roshan Mathews wrote: > RedHat makes money (and profits) by selling Open > Source software, and support. redhat does not sell software -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae

Re: [Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-13 Thread Roshan Mathews
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 11:36, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > typical example: a friend was asked to quote for some complicated > network setup. The windows people had quoted something like 8 lakhs for > software and 1.5 lakhs for installation and configuration. My friend > quoted 0 lakhs for software

Re: [Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-13 Thread Roshan Mathews
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 07:18, Yogesh Girikumar wrote: >> , for eg. canonical ltd. provides ubuntu >> os for free of cost even they are shipping cd for free,there is a team >> to work who is paying them. how they run the organization without >> getting penny amount from people. >> > I hear that "M

Re: [Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-13 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Hrishikesh Murali < hrishikeshmural...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves > wrote: > > > > >in the business point of view opensource softwares can make profit > > > >much lower than that of proprietary. Is that be true? > > > >

Re: [Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-13 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 11:17 +0530, Hrishikesh Murali wrote: > wrote: > > > > >in the business point of view opensource softwares can make > profit > > > >much lower than that of proprietary. Is that be true? > > > > no > > -- > > regards > > KG > > > > Why do you say so? typical example: a frie

Re: [Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-13 Thread Hrishikesh Murali
Hi, On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > > >in the business point of view opensource softwares can make profit > > >much lower than that of proprietary. Is that be true? > > no > -- > regards > KG > Why do you say so? -- Thanks and Regards, Hrishikesh Murali ___

Re: [Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-13 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 09:01 +0530, Arun SAG wrote: > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 8:07 AM, balaji sivanath > wrote: > > > >Their sources are selling customer support and training, then i > think > > >in the business point of view opensource softwares can make profit > > >much lower than that of proprie

Re: [Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-13 Thread Arun SAG
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 8:07 AM, balaji sivanath wrote: > >Their sources are selling customer support and training, then i think > >in the business point of view opensource softwares can make profit > >much lower than that of proprietary. Is that be true? > > Yes. _

Re: [Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-13 Thread balaji sivanath
Their sources are selling customer support and training, then i think in the business point of view opensource softwares can make profit much lower than that of proprietary. Is that be true? ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinf

Re: [Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-13 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2010/10/14 openbala > > Well, this might not be a perfect answer, but what I know of as an answer. > > Better than my answer for sure. ;) Thank You, Yogesh. ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc

Re: [Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-13 Thread openbala
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 6:35 AM, balaji sivanath wrote: > hi, > This is an unanswered question for me from the time i entered into > open world! (8 or 9 months before). > how people doing business using opensource software. Most of the > opensource software are available at free of cost how are th

Re: [Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-13 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
Hi, 2010/10/14 balaji sivanath > how people doing business using opensource software. Most of the business involves "SELLING" support. Support (directly from the company or its partners) costs money. True, there are people on forums and mailing lists who can help a lot. But if an enterprise is

[Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-13 Thread balaji sivanath
hi, This is an unanswered question for me from the time i entered into open world! (8 or 9 months before). how people doing business using opensource software. Most of the opensource software are available at free of cost how are they gaining money to run the organization, for eg. canonical ltd. pr