Re: [ilugd] Acers laptop ads

2005-11-08 Thread gaurav
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi I am successfully running kubutu on acer 4020 laptop I got month back . everything including wifi worked out of the box :-) limpus Linux is just marketing gimmick to bring laptop cost with OEM software ...more ever if u pop in limpus Linux C

Re: [ilugd] best tools for web development

2005-11-08 Thread gaurav
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 i think best tool medium scale web project is php (LAMP) and enterprise scale project java (struts + spring + hibernate +pgsql) rest are just options ;-) Tushar Shah wrote: |Sorry for the below written mail I frgt to read the thread initating |mai

Re: [ilugd] apache2 and symlinks

2005-11-08 Thread gaurav
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I am using symlinks Apache2 with madrake 10 in one of my servers without any issues in commonhttpd.conf (which is included in hhtpd2.conf) I have following settings ~Options -Indexes FollowSymLinks MultiViews also check rights on directory jus

Re: [ilugd] best tools for web development

2005-11-08 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Tuesday 08 Nov 2005 4:28 pm, gaurav wrote: > i think best tool medium scale web project is php Pray Hard & Patch -- regards kg http://www.livejournal.com/users/lawgon tally ho! http://avsap.org.in ಇಂಡ್ಲಿನಕ್ಸ வாழ்க! ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@l

Re: [ilugd] Kubuntu on laptop

2005-11-08 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
On Tuesday, 8 Nov 2005 4:24 pm, gaurav wrote: > Hi I am successfully running kubutu on acer 4020 laptop I got month > back . everything including wifi worked out of the box :-) > Then you are lucky. You must be using the weaker WEP or no encryption for your wireless connection. For my home

Re: [ilugd] best tools for web development

2005-11-08 Thread gaurav
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: |On Tuesday 08 Nov 2005 4:28 pm, gaurav wrote: | |>i think best tool medium scale web project is php | | |Pray Hard & Patch | yahoo , Duche Bank , KLM , friendster and other 23 million sites on php ...*JSR* 223 (allow *P

Re: [ilugd] best tools for web development

2005-11-08 Thread Raj shekhar
in infinite wisdom gaurav spoke thus on 11/08/05 16:28: > i think best tool medium scale web project is php (LAMP) and > enterprise scale project java (struts + spring + hibernate +pgsql) > rest are just options ;-) A bit off-topic question, but what is considered to be an "enterprise" scale pro

Re: [ilugd] Kubuntu on laptop

2005-11-08 Thread gaurav
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 which kubuntu version are u using breezy (5.10) or hedgehog (5.04) ?? Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: |On Tuesday, 8 Nov 2005 4:24 pm, gaurav wrote: | |>Hi I am successfully running kubutu on acer 4020 laptop I got month |>back . everything includi

Re: [ilugd] best tools for web development

2005-11-08 Thread gaurav
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Raj shekhar wrote: |in infinite wisdom gaurav spoke thus on 11/08/05 16:28: | |>i think best tool medium scale web project is php (LAMP) and |>enterprise scale project java (struts + spring + hibernate +pgsql) |>rest are just options ;-) | | |A b

Re: [ilugd] best tools for web development

2005-11-08 Thread Mithun Bhattacharya
--- gaurav <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > yahoo , Duche Bank , KLM , friendster and other 23 million sites on Lets forget all the other trivial websites and talk about Yahoo. One it started with Perl as the backend language and two now a days it uses everything from Perl, Python, C, LISP and go

Re: [ilugd] best tools for web development

2005-11-08 Thread Mithun Bhattacharya
--- Raj shekhar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > in infinite wisdom gaurav spoke thus on 11/08/05 16:28: > > i think best tool medium scale web project is php (LAMP) and > > enterprise scale project java (struts + spring + hibernate +pgsql) > > rest are just options ;-) > > A bit off-topic questio

Re: [ilugd] best tools for web development

2005-11-08 Thread gaurav
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 this what yahoo (gets 1.5 billion page views daily ) says officially abt php http://public.yahoo.com/~radwin/talks/php-at-yahoo-zend2005.pdf I dont think all other sites are trivial and also 1/3 of all apache installations out there run php ..I

Re: [ilugd] best tools for web development

2005-11-08 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Tuesday 08 Nov 2005 5:02 pm, gaurav wrote: > Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > |On Tuesday 08 Nov 2005 4:28 pm, gaurav wrote: > |>i think best tool medium scale web project is php > | > |Pray Hard & Patch > > yahoo , Duche Bank , KLM , friendster and other 23 million sites on > php ...*JSR* 223 (allo

Re: [ilugd] Kubuntu on laptop

2005-11-08 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
On Tuesday, 8 Nov 2005 5:04 pm, gaurav wrote: > which kubuntu version are u using breezy (5.10) or hedgehog (5.04) ?? 5.10 I keep mixing up all the weird distro version names - stenz, breezy, woody, hoary .. blah blah. - Sandip -- Sandip Bhattacharya *Puroga Technologies * [EMAIL P

Re: [ilugd] best tools for web development

2005-11-08 Thread Mithun Bhattacharya
--- Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am told one can write good code in php and secure code too - but it If you work hard enough even Windows can be made secure ;) Mithun __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice

[ilugd] Latest additions for Hall of shame: Government of India websites.

2005-11-08 Thread Kapil Sethi
Hi All, Fortunately I got some spare time, and I decided to explore more govt sites to add them to the hall of shame and here we are 1. Coal ministry : I have already added 2. Official site for Prime Minister of India: I have already added The other sites that I have not added to the Hall of sh

Re: [ilugd] best tools for web development

2005-11-08 Thread Raj shekhar
in infinite wisdom gaurav spoke thus on 11/08/05 17:21: > |A bit off-topic question, but what is considered to be an "enterprise" > |scale project ? > > example : - like 25000 to 75000 transaction per sec , ORM (like > hibernate or ruby on rails) and presistance support , distributed > transactio

Re: [ilugd] best tools for web development

2005-11-08 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Tuesday 08 Nov 2005 6:34 pm, Raj shekhar wrote: > These might clear a few doubts about the capabilities of PHP > http://rajshekhar.net/wiki/index.php/Main/PHPAndLargeProjects > > I am not saying that you *should* use PHP for all your web dev work, > but dismissing it in a casual manner without r

Re: [ilugd] best tools for web development

2005-11-08 Thread Mithun Bhattacharya
--- gaurav <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > this what yahoo (gets 1.5 billion page views daily ) says officially > abt php > http://public.yahoo.com/~radwin/talks/php-at-yahoo-zend2005.pdf Umm I thought slide 13 and 14 conclusively proves that

Re: [ilugd] best tools for web development

2005-11-08 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
On Tuesday, 8 Nov 2005 6:51 pm, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > what i like about doing web in python is that on a server with several > websites, i can stick *all* the matter for a given website on a > directory on /home and maintain it with a subversion repository. So, if > i hand over control of a pa

Re: [ilugd] best tools for web development

2005-11-08 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Tuesday 08 Nov 2005 7:02 pm, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: > On Tuesday, 8 Nov 2005 6:51 pm, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > > what i like about doing web in python is that on a server with > > several websites, i can stick *all* the matter for a given website > > on a directory on /home and maintain it

Re: [ilugd] Latest additions for Hall of shame: Government of India websites.

2005-11-08 Thread Gora Mohanty
--- Kapil Sethi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > Fortunately I got some spare time, and I decided to > explore more govt sites to add them to the hall of > shame [...] > So that leads us to conclusion that the govt agency > NIC responsible for maintaining these websites do > not have the skills

Re: [ilugd] Latest additions for Hall of shame: Government of India websites.

2005-11-08 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Tuesday 08 Nov 2005 7:11 pm, Gora Mohanty wrote: > Heh, great idea. What is the URL for the hall of > shame? > The IndLinux site should link to it. better indlinux do something about CDAC stealing their thunder -- regards kg http://www.livejournal.com/users/lawgon tally ho! http://avsap.org.

Re: [ilugd] best tools for web development

2005-11-08 Thread Anupam Jain
On 11/7/05, Raj Shekhar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > in infinite wisdom Anupam Jain spoke thus On 11/07/2005 07:32 PM: > > > > Ok ok I see the advantages of using scripting languages.. And Python > > IS exceptionally pretty :) But what about using Jython?... Best of > > both worlds as I see it...

Re: [ilugd] best tools for web development

2005-11-08 Thread Anupam Jain
On 11/8/05, Anupam Jain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 11/7/05, Raj Shekhar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > in infinite wisdom Anupam Jain spoke thus On 11/07/2005 07:32 PM: > > > > > > Ok ok I see the advantages of using scripting languages.. And Python > > > IS exceptionally pretty :) But what a

Re: [ilugd] best tools for web development

2005-11-08 Thread Raj Mathur
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > "Mithun" == Mithun Bhattacharya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Mithun> --- gaurav <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >> >> this what yahoo (gets 1.5 billion page views daily ) says >> o

Re: [ilugd] best tools for web development

2005-11-08 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Tuesday 08 Nov 2005 8:19 pm, Raj Mathur wrote: > > "Mithun" == Mithun Bhattacharya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Mithun> --- gaurav <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > >> > >> this what yahoo (gets 1.5 billion page views daily ) s

Re: [ilugd] best tools for web development

2005-11-08 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
On Tuesday, 8 Nov 2005 8:19 pm, Raj Mathur wrote: > > And to add my 2 paise worth, point 4 on the next slide (15) > conclusively shows the biggest problem with PHP -- mixing Model, View > and Controller into a single document. Unfortunately, this also goes > diametrically against requirement 10 o

Re: [ilugd] best tools for web development

2005-11-08 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Tuesday 08 Nov 2005 8:44 pm, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: > user feels the need for such a thing and looks around, is upto her. > Most one page scripts dont, in one page scripts i agree Paste Hurry up & Pray rulz -- regards kg http://www.livejournal.com/users/lawgon tally ho! http://avsap.org

Re: [ilugd] best tools for web development

2005-11-08 Thread Raj shekhar
in infinite wisdom Kenneth Gonsalves spoke thus on 11/08/05 18:51: > > what i like about doing web in python is that on a server with several > websites, i can stick *all* the matter for a given website on a > directory on /home and maintain it with a subversion repository. So, if > i hand over

Re: [ilugd] best tools for web development

2005-11-08 Thread Tushar Shah
Hi, > enterprise scale project java (struts + spring + hibernate +pgsql) struts is biggest piece of over-engineered crap out there . It's so unnatural to program in struts programming model . Also I havn't coded in spring but doesn't spring MVC/Tapestry etc over spring takes care of not using

[ilugd] which debian ?

2005-11-08 Thread Gaurav Mishra
Hi all, which is the latest debian distro i don`t mind testing or unstable one but which one is better etch or sid, in terms of latest packages -- "Smooth Sea Never makes a Skilled Mariner" Linux User #348873 http://gauravmishra.modblog.com _

Re: [ilugd] long BLUG meet outside Bangalore.

2005-11-08 Thread Raj shekhar
in infinite wisdom Raj shekhar spoke thus on 10/03/05 16:25: > At the BLUG meet a few days back, we came up with the idea of a long > BLUG meet outside Bangalore. > > The current idea is to go to Goa on the long weekend after Diwali. The > proposed dates are 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th November. 4th No

[ilugd] Roomity.com v 1.5 is a web 2.01

2005-11-08 Thread shenanigans
I was interested in getting feedback from current mail group users. We have mirrored your mail list in a new application that provides a more aggregated and safe environment which utilizes the power of broadband. Roomity.com v 1.5 is a web 2.01 community webapp. Our newest version adds broadcas

Re: [ilugd] [OT] Fwd: [cc-lessigletter] CC in Review:LawrenceLessig on How it All Began

2005-11-08 Thread Sanjeev \"ghane\" Gupta
Linux Lingam wrote: > [snip] > > sanjeev, thanks so much for these enlightening insights into newton > and > leonardo. these insights are too remarkable and make me wonder, are > these > the hallmarks of modern civilization, or just a particular > civilization? I am not at all sure of this, but I

Re: [ilugd] [OT] Fwd: [cc-lessigletter] CC in Review:LawrenceLessig on How it All Began

2005-11-08 Thread Sanjeev \"ghane\" Gupta
Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: > On Saturday, 5 Nov 2005 1:20 pm, Linux Lingam wrote: >> for instance, the chinese are known to have invented several things >> in their civilization, you know the usual: gunpowder, sails, etc. >> what has been their attitude towards knowledge they discover or >> inventi

Re: [ilugd] Latest additions for Hall of shame: Government of India websites.

2005-11-08 Thread Gora Mohanty
--- Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > better indlinux do something about CDAC stealing > their thunder Eh? How is CDAC stealing anyone's thunder? Regards, Gora __ Enjoy this Diwali with Y! India Click h

Re: [ilugd] Latest additions for Hall of shame: Government of India websites.

2005-11-08 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Wednesday 09 Nov 2005 10:39 am, Gora Mohanty wrote: > --- Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [...] > > > better indlinux do something about CDAC stealing > > their thunder > > Eh? How is CDAC stealing anyone's thunder? you mean CDAC has developed all that free fonts and stuff indepe

Re: [ilugd] best tools for web development

2005-11-08 Thread Mithun Bhattacharya
--- Sandip Bhattacharya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday, 8 Nov 2005 8:19 pm, Raj Mathur wrote: > > > > > And to add my 2 paise worth, point 4 on the next slide (15) > > conclusively shows the biggest problem with PHP -- mixing Model, > View > > and Controller into a single document. Unfo

Re: [ilugd] Latest additions for Hall of shame: Government of India websites.

2005-11-08 Thread Gora Mohanty
--- Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 09 Nov 2005 10:39 am, Gora Mohanty > wrote: [...] > > Eh? How is CDAC stealing anyone's thunder? > > you mean CDAC has developed all that free fonts and > stuff independant of indlinux effort? Yeah. To the best of my knowledge, CDAC

Re: [ilugd] which debian ?

2005-11-08 Thread gaurav
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I sugguest you opt for ubuntu which is debia based (works out of the box ,latest pakage) and activate muti universe repo (17,000 packages ) Gaurav Mishra wrote: |Hi all, | which is the latest debian distro i don`t mind testing or unstable |one but

Re: [ilugd] Latest additions for Hall of shame: Government of India websites.

2005-11-08 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Wednesday 09 Nov 2005 11:39 am, Gora Mohanty wrote: > > you mean CDAC has developed all that free fonts and > > stuff independant of indlinux effort? > > Yeah. To the best of my knowledge, CDAC has never > misappropriated credit for IndLinux work, and I have > nevr heard anyone accuse them of th

Re: [ilugd] best tools for web development

2005-11-08 Thread gaurav
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mithun Bhattacharya wrote: | | |I dont think Raj was talking about Templating mechanism. Yes templating |is important. Yes it is also highly missused. Missused in the term that |the template shouldnt drive the application rather the application |s