Re: (yet another) draft 17, incorporating Chris Newman's comments

2002-06-04 Thread Mark Crispin
Ken - Good catch! I've fixed it. Thanks. -- Mark --

Re: (yet another) draft 17, incorporating Chris Newman's comments

2002-06-04 Thread Ken Murchison
Mark, > 91) Change recommendation of optional automatic capabilities in LOGIN > and AUTHENTICATE to use the CAPABILITY response code in the tagged > OK. This is more interoperable than an unsolicited untagged > CAPABILITY response. Yet, the AUTHENTICATE and LOGIN definitions still list

RE: URGENT: draft 17 with IESG-requested changes -- please review!!!!

2002-06-04 Thread warren l brown
The last thing I have filed on this is: Internet Draft: IMAP4 Disconnected Access Document: internet-drafts/draft-ietf-imap-disc-01.txt November 1994 > -Original Message- > From: Alexey Melnikov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 4:13 PM > To: Mark Crispin > Cc: IM

Re: URGENT: draft 17 with IESG-requested changes -- please review!!!!

2002-06-04 Thread Mark Crispin
On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Alexey Melnikov wrote: > > [IMAP-DISC] Austein, R., "Synchronization Operations for Disconnected > > IMAP4 Clients", Work in Progress. > I don't recognize this document. It either became an RFC or expired a long time > ago. Yes, it did expire a long time ago. I am hoping

Re: URGENT: draft 17 with IESG-requested changes -- please review!!!!

2002-06-04 Thread Alexey Melnikov
> [IMAP-DISC] Austein, R., "Synchronization Operations for Disconnected > IMAP4 Clients", Work in Progress. I don't recognize this document. It either became an RFC or expired a long time ago. Regards, Alexey Melnikov __ R & D, ACI Worldwide/MessagingD

Re: Question about listing sub folders

2002-06-04 Thread Mark Crispin
On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Sang Park wrote: > I'm trying to get the listing of sub-folders of a specific folder and am so > far unable to do this with the LIST command. Unfortunately, you've run up against a quality-of-implementation issue with the Netscape 4.15 server. The server apparently ignores th

Re: Question about listing sub folders

2002-06-04 Thread Barry Leiba
"Sang Park" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote... > I'm trying to get the listing of sub-folders of a specific folder and am so > far unable to do this with the LIST command. > a0 list "inbox/" * It looks like the server you're using ignores the reference argument. Is this a current server, or an old on

Re: URGENT: draft 17 with IESG-requested changes -- please review!!!!

2002-06-04 Thread Mark Crispin
On Tue, 4 Jun 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > All I'm saying is that distasteful as it may be to cater to ignorance and > stupidity, it may make sense to do so on occasion. I agree completely, and would very gratefully appreciate any assistance (including but not limited to suggested rewrites) th

Question about listing sub folders

2002-06-04 Thread Sang Park
Hi all - I'm trying to get the listing of sub-folders of a specific folder and am so far unable to do this with the LIST command. i'm connecting to a netscape 4.15 messaging server and am trying the following commands: a0 list "inbox/" * * LIST (\NoInferiors) "/" INBOX * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "

Re: URGENT: draft 17 with IESG-requested changes -- please review!!!!

2002-06-04 Thread ned
> On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > > While I agree with your thoughts here, the bottom line is that these > > documents talk about quality-of-implementation issues. You do not > > *have* to reference them to implement the protocol, therefore they are > > by definition not normative re

Re: URGENT: draft 17 with IESG-requested changes -- please review!!!!

2002-06-04 Thread Mark Crispin
On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > While I agree with your thoughts here, the bottom line is that these > documents talk about quality-of-implementation issues. You do not > *have* to reference them to implement the protocol, therefore they are > by definition not normative references.

Re: URGENT: draft 17 with IESG-requested changes -- please review!!!!

2002-06-04 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
> The information in these two documents is very important to writing an > interoperable implementation; we've all agreed that the information in > these documents is important. If they are not in the normative section, > then they are likely to be unread (and worse, defied). While I agree with

Re: URGENT: draft 17 with IESG-requested changes -- please review!!!!

2002-06-04 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
Mark Crispin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Tue, 4 Jun 2002 10:52:12 +0200, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote: > > 2595 looks worse. Making STARTTLS m-t-i means that the IMAP parts of 2595 > > aren't informational any more. Perhaps 2595 needs to be reissued? > > I admit that I'm not current on the politics, but f

Re: URGENT: draft 17 with IESG-requested changes -- please review!!!!

2002-06-04 Thread Mark Crispin
On Tue, 4 Jun 2002 10:52:12 +0200, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote: > 2595 looks worse. Making STARTTLS m-t-i means that the IMAP parts of 2595 > aren't informational any more. Perhaps 2595 needs to be reissued? I admit that I'm not current on the politics, but from all appearances 2595 is Standards Track

Re: URGENT: draft 17 with IESG-requested changes -- please review!!!!

2002-06-04 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
Draft-17 looks good to me, although I do notice one rather strange reference: [CHARSET] Freed, N., and Postel, J. "IANA Character Set Registration Procedures", Work in Progress. Ned? Mark Crispin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Mon, 3 Jun 2002, Lawrence Greenfield wrote: > > The normative part o

Re: URGENT: draft 17 with IESG-requested changes -- pleasereview!!!!

2002-06-04 Thread Sebastian Hagedorn
--On Monday, June 03, 2002 19:09:39 -0700 Mark Crispin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Crispin[Page 22] > > INTERNET-DRAFT IMAP4rev1 EXPIRES 4 December 2002 > > >AUTHENTICATE and LOGIN. In addition, client and serv