Re: [Imports] Importing japanese train stations from Wikipedia

2012-10-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/10/12 Fabien SK : > I asked on the Wikipedia discussion page of the «Trains in Japan» > project [1]. Someone told me that names (that is the only information I > retrieved in Wikipedia) cannot copyrighted, so I should be able do to > use them. but you would also use the coordinates to the n

Re: [Imports] Importing japanese train stations from Wikipedia

2012-10-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/10/12 Fabien SK : > No I did not used the coordinates, only the names. The train stations > already exist in Openstreetmap. In JOSM, I either: > - manually download a train station having only a japanese name > - download an area with train stations, or the members of a railway > relationship

Re: [Imports] Hungarian CLC import

2012-10-29 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/10/29 Balázs Szalkai : > More than about one third of Hungary has already been imported from the CLC > dataset by others. The following tag is used for attribution: > source=© EEA, Koppenhága (2009); Készítette a FÖMI a KvVM megbízásából > (2009) > I'm not a lawyer but I think this tagging is

Re: [Imports] Hungarian CLC import

2012-10-29 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/10/29 Balázs Szalkai : > "I think the question about tagging was refering to how you translate > the Corine-tags to OSM-tags, and which tags from Corine you translate > and which you drop." > > Let me put it this way. Some guy in the past has already converted the CLC > dataset to .osm. I don'

Re: [Imports] Hungarian CLC import

2012-11-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/11/5 László Csatlós : > About CLC:id: We keep them because of the easier update and indentification > later. It is not much work to delete them in a batch. what is your recommendation how to deal with this when you modify the object, e.g. split it in several parts, or when you combine severa

Re: [Imports] Import der IENC-Kartendaten der Wasser und Schifffahrtsverwaltung des Bundes

2012-11-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
As a general note (you write some paragraphs about merging the external dataset with the existing data in OSM) it would be nice to have your importing procedure explicitly state that existing data prevails and conflicts would ideally be resolved by survey. You state that every single object will g

Re: [Imports] Import request - Piemonte and Torino

2012-11-23 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/11/21 Maurizio Daniele : > Recently the Piedmont region (northwest of Italy) published a lot of data > [1] under CC license, most of them are CC-BY 2.5, a few CC0, some others > with different licenses we cannot use. > So it did the city of Torino [2] > > A lot of these datas are interesting (

Re: [Imports] Making the current guidelines/code of conduct about imports/automated|mechanical edits clearer and merged

2012-12-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 24/dic/2012 um 15:58 schrieb Jeff Meyer : > If individuals are reviewing small chunks of data at a time as part of a > particular import process, and the import is not automated, should there > still be a separate account? The reason to require it nonetheless might be different intellec

Re: [Imports] Making the current guidelines/code of conduct about imports/automated|mechanical edits clearer and merged

2012-12-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/12/25 Frederik Ramm : > On 12/24/2012 03:58 PM, Jeff Meyer wrote: >> Again, it seems there needs to be a clearer definition of "import," as >> not all imports are automated. > I think it depends on the attitude of the person doing it. > If the mapper says "today I'll map South Sometown and I'l

Re: [Imports] Burlington VT Building Footprints

2013-01-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 15/gen/2013 um 08:22 schrieb Jaak Laineste : > 3. Use natural capitalisation for street names, 'Catherine', not all caps +1, also it looks from 5) as if the value for addr:street would be "Catherine Street" cheers, Martin ___ Imports mailing l

Re: [Imports] [Cat2Osm2] Tool for exporting Spanish Cadastre data in OSM suitable format

2013-01-17 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/1/17 Cruz Enrique Borges : > The first version exported too much data and created lots of relations > so we've been working with spanish OSM community on a second version > of Cat2Osm2 [2], that simplifies the result by losing some extra info > like: ... > - not taking in account building leve

Re: [Imports] [Talk-es] [Cat2Osm2] Tool for exporting Spanish Cadastre data in OSM suitable format

2013-03-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 28/feb/2013 um 21:10 schrieb Cruz Enrique Borges Hernandez : > > + Do not import these features. +1, upload them after verification cheers, Martin ___ Imports mailing list Imports@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/impo

Re: [Imports] [Talk-es] [Cat2Osm2] Tool for exporting Spanish Cadastre data in OSM suitable format

2013-03-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 27/feb/2013 um 22:45 schrieb Sarah Hoffmann : > The single building parts make not much > sense for anything but 3D rendering. And I suspect that they are going to > give you a big headache once you get around to mapping addresses. building parts are fine, but they are not an alternative

Re: [Imports] [Talk-es] [Cat2Osm2] Tool for exporting Spanish Cadastre data in OSM suitable format

2013-03-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 02/mar/2013 um 00:43 schrieb Paul Norman : > The entrance=yes node won't be used for routing. If you have the address on > the building, it will put you at the closest mapped road to the building so you're proposing mapping for the routers because they currently don't interpret entrance

Re: [Imports] [Talk-es] [Cat2Osm2] Tool for exporting Spanish Cadastre data in OSM suitable format

2013-03-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 02/mar/2013 um 09:55 schrieb Paul Norman : > If you don't know the height and are just estimating it from the number of > floors, you shouldn't include a height tag. +1, use building:levels (or similar) instead cheers, Martin ___ Imports maili

Re: [Imports] Antarctica coastline/shelf-ice import

2013-03-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 05/mar/2013 um 15:41 schrieb Jochen Topf : > We are also proposing to remove the huge natural=glacier multipolygon that > covers large parts of Antarctica. It is quite unusual to tag the "default" > land > cover this way (there is no "desert" multipolygon covering half of North > Africa

Re: [Imports] [OSM-dev] Coastline changes Antarctica

2013-03-13 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/3/12 Andy Allan : > 3) If you're not using hillshading, inverse vs normal makes no visual > difference. But as soon as you use hillshading, you want inverse. So > all else being equal, inverse should be the default if you're using bathymetry you'll want "normal" (land polygons). When you're

Re: [Imports] Mapping Yaoundé

2013-05-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
On 05/mag/2013, at 09:30, "Jaak Laineste (Nutiteq)" wrote: > I'd suggest not to use tags for default values (oneway=false,lanes=1,level=1 > etc), otherwise you may end up with a lot of paths with spam tags. Generally agree, just wanted to point out that the default for lanes is mostly as

Re: [Imports] [OSM-talk] ADD import (Antarctica natural features and POIs)

2013-05-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
On 05/mag/2013, at 12:28, Christoph Hormann wrote: > 1) duplicate the way > 2) tag natural=coastline;whatever > 3) create a multipolygon relation containing a single way with natural=* > > I used option 3 but i could not find any definitive answer to this > question so i will leave it open

Re: [Imports] [OSM-talk] ADD import (Antarctica natural features and POIs)

2013-05-14 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/5/14 Christoph Hormann > ADD:code -> (discard) > ADD:text -> note > ADD:revision -> source:date > ADD:date -> survey:date > ADD:source=* -> source=ADD;* > if source, date and revision are the same for all objects (or could be grouped into changesets with identical values), they could be ta

Re: [Imports] Import field areas in Viersen, Germany with place=locality

2013-05-16 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
On 16/mag/2013, at 10:35, "Christian Haeske" wrote: > We have also the outlines of the places, but that would be overkill and we > don´t want to import them since they have mostly no visual analogy. they don't correspond with the borders that are mapped, like landuse=farmland? It might be

Re: [Imports] Import field areas in Viersen, Germany with place=locality

2013-05-17 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/5/17 Christian Haeske > The outlines come from the cadastral (property) map. > of course, that's what we are talking about > There are 1 to 5 separate outlines per place, some are also really small. > That would be too much detail, we don´t want to copy the property map to > osm so we w

Re: [Imports] ADD import (Antarctica natural features and POIs)

2013-05-19 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
I have found this research station which isn't in the new ADD data (section 23, at least not at the same position), is this expected? http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/2012557572 cheers, Martin ___ Imports mailing list Imports@openstreetmap.org h

Re: [Imports] Florence civic numbers

2013-06-27 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
On 27/giu/2013, at 11:35, Stefano Martina wrote: > Hi, I'm new to imports in OSM. I hastily imported all civic numbers of > Florence in Italy from the opendata of the municipality without reading the > guidelines. The result is good and useful, and the license of data is free. > What can I

Re: [Imports] Charging Stations in Italy

2013-07-10 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/7/9 David Riccitelli > > I understand now the matter about car=yes. > > Can you clarify the following: > 1. shall we then remove the *car=yes* tag? (at least until the matter is > clarified) > 2. what considerations shall we make for the value of the *access* tag? > Doesn't the *access* ta

Re: [Imports] Charging Stations in Italy

2013-07-10 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/7/10 David Riccitelli : Jason Remillard: >> - what happens if a mapper, merges the node onto a building IMHO this is a mapping error. How would you be able afterwards to distinguish the building from the charging station and tell to which object the tags apply? E.g. tag name, tag start_date,

Re: [Imports] Charging Stations in Italy

2013-07-10 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/7/10 David Riccitelli : >> >> - what happens if a station is deleted from the source data >> > Stations deleted from the source data, or marked as inactive (e.g. >> > maintenance), will be removed from OSM. >> >> not sure if stations marked as inactive should be completely removed, >> maybe be

Re: [Imports] Norwegian place name registry (SSR)

2013-07-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/7/12 Thomas Hirsch Summary: > > - CC-BY 3.0 no, attribution “Kartverket”, explicit permission also granted. > is attribution in the OSM wiki (and changeset comments) sufficient to satisfy the obligations? Permanent attribution on object level cannot be guaranteed. > - Names will be

Re: [Imports] Norwegian place name registry (SSR)

2013-07-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/7/12 Thomas Hirsch > Spelling issues have a particular dimension in Norway, as dialects are > encouraged. In a similar vein to street names above, a lake may take any of > the suffixes -tjern, tjernet, tjønn, tjenn, tjønna, tjenna and possibly > more, according to the mood and dialect of the

Re: [Imports] Impact Of Imports On User Engagement : Sophie Kate Salway

2013-07-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/7/12 Sophie Kate Salway > Are you for or against data imports? > What are the benefits and/or negatives of introducing imports into the OSM > database? > Do you think data imports engage the OSM user? If so, why? > Do you think data imports affect the overall quality of OSM? > With the intro

Re: [Imports] Charging Stations in Italy

2013-07-31 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/7/31 David Riccitelli > Dear all, > > Enel's *charging stations *import has been completed successfully > yesterday. Data has been loaded using Enel's account (EnelSharing) with * > changeset *17153423: > http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/17153423 > > The import software has been

Re: [Imports] [Imports-us] Automated Edit Proposal, remove area=yes, and fix broken source tag in US Massachusetts

2013-08-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/8/12 Serge Wroclawski > > Won't MA be getting address data soon (in the next 6 months)? > > If so, I think that would be a great time to make those changes, when > adding address data. > > But right now, I think the superfluous tags don't hurt anything, even > if they're annoying. > > +1, an

Re: [Imports] [Talk-us] GNIS tag removal proposal

2013-09-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 08/set/2013 um 10:39 schrieb Serge Wroclawski : > * Reclassify objects which are currently gnis but should be other > datasets (non-gnis). being derived from one data set or the other is not an osm classification. Our strength is crowd sourced data collection and maintenance / update. All

Re: [Imports] NYC building and address import

2013-09-10 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/9/10 Alex Barth > I'm submitting this import proposal for peer review on this list: > > https://github.com/osmlab/nycbuildings/blob/master/PROPOSAL.md > > could you please set up a page in the OSM wiki so that there remains trace? thank you, Martin PS: There is already this page in the wi

Re: [Imports] CHAdeMO data in Open Charge Map

2013-09-11 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/9/11 Clifford Snow > Also about the kml file, it is no different than shp files, just another > format. The kml makes it easy to overlay with google maps. Question - what > is the open source equivalent for overlaying on OSM? > kml is actually an OGC standard since 2008, so "despite" bein

Re: [Imports] TIGER name expansion (was GNIS tags)

2013-09-13 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/9/13 andrzej zaborowski > Can you point to an example of such incorrect expansion by the earlier > bot? There isn't really an ambiguity between Saint and Street because > one is a prefix and the other a suffix. > > There is an ambiguity though between Saint and State for example, > which is

Re: [Imports] Massachusetts lake/pond automated edit proposal

2013-09-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/9/28 Jason Remillard > > - remove all of the massgis: tags from the natural=water ways in > Massachusetts. > > - Use the massgis:PALIS_ID to look up the lake/pond names from MassGIS > data table. Around 200 water bodies will get named as part of this > process. The name tag if it exists, is

Re: [Imports] SASA bus stops import

2013-09-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/9/28 Elliott Plack > bus stops, in my experience, are hard to map in OSM and can clutter urban > centers. I like to see people add routes though. in my experience it is easy to map bus-stops (after all they are just a node like many other POIs), it is much harder to map bus routes, becaus

[Imports] Mali pharmacies, import from Feb 2013

2013-10-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
I just got aware of an import done in February 2013, which seems it went wrong (I wrote to the user and he told me that apparently the dataset provided by a tier organization working with HOT team had a bad format or wrong localization). The node in question that caught my attention is this one: h

Re: [Imports] NYC building + address import - to merge or not to merge?

2013-10-14 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/10/14 Alex Barth > (This is BCC to tagg...@osm.org, conversation to happen on > imports@openstreetmap.org.) > > At the NYC building and address import we're facing the following question: > > **In cases where there is one address point per building, should we merge > the address information

Re: [Imports] NYC building + address import - to merge or not to merge?

2013-10-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/10/15 Pieren > It's also harder to represent both on a map, excepted if you can go to > high zoom levels. > you can't show housenumbers in low zoom levels anyway. > When we place the housenumber on one side of the > building, everyone is intuitively understanding that this side is > whe

Re: [Imports] Source tag (was: Re: NYC building + address import - to merge or not to merge?)

2013-10-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/10/15 Alex Barth > Re: source tag. We decided against it as the import is identified by > import account and changeset comment. > > I don't find source tags useful in a database that routinely sources > information for a single entity from multiple sources. I. e. what's the > source tag for

Re: [Imports] Source tag (was: Re: NYC building + address import - to merge or not to merge?)

2013-10-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/10/15 Pieren > So, instead of changing a changeset tag, contributors will have to > swap credentials in JOSM each time they use a different source... Of > course, they will not do this for every small upload and we cannot > rely on the user account suffix. The source tag is not 100% reliable

Re: [Imports] [NUUG kart] kartverket imports to OpenStreetMap

2013-10-16 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/10/16 Christoph Hormann > > I've noticed that somebody recently added a rule to distinguish > > waterway=river from waterway=stream on the wiki page for stream, but > > I'm not sure how/where that rule (which is related to how far an able > > person can jump) became commonly accepted? > > I

Re: [Imports] kartverket imports to OpenStreetMap

2013-10-16 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 16/ott/2013 um 22:28 schrieb Christoph Hormann : > > My interpretation always was that it means where an able person can and > would practically jump across if needed yes, that's what the wiki definition for stream states. The definition for river on the other hand requires the feature

Re: [Imports] [NUUG kart] kartverket imports to OpenStreetMap

2013-10-18 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/10/18 Christoph Hormann > If you think this information is completely unreliable you can of course > ignore it all together. But keep in mind the river/stream distinction > is not an importance rating, therefore it is fully possible for a river > to run into a stream. > this discussion be

Re: [Imports] Polish Forests - Imports

2013-11-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 02/nov/2013 um 17:52 schrieb Pieren : > > Cutting lines have their own tag: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dcutline Yes, but that doesn't mean you can't split the forest there. My suggestion is to use the smallest polygons that make sense according to the mapper, and

Re: [Imports] edit import guideline wiki page

2013-11-06 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Actually it didn't look to me as if you had substantial changes proposed. A "should" has IMHO the same implications in this context than a "must", and whether this is called "policy" or "guidelines" doesn't seem to change anything either, that's why I didn't reply on your first mail. cheers, Marti

Re: [Imports] edit import guideline wiki page

2013-11-06 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/11/6 Carol Kraemer > Good morning Martin, > > "Guidelines" often read as suggested reading while "Policy" carries more > weight and defined consequences for not following it. > > - > yes, in general it is clear, but there is a quite verbal text how to read these guidelines: These guidelin

Re: [Imports] edit import guideline wiki page

2013-11-06 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/11/6 Christoph Hormann > Also keep in mind that it might seem clear to long > term mappers what things like 'revert plan' and 'changeset size policy' > are but need to be explained in a practically useful set of > instructions (at best with links to examples of good practice). > IMHO impor

Re: [Imports] Sardinia Imports

2013-11-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/11/22 Paul Norman > There's no list of tags on that page, could you just provide a list of > tags in an email to the list? > there's a link to this file: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Veneto/File_delle_Regole_SHP-to-OSM some remarks: - it should be amenity=post_office (instead of p

Re: [Imports] Sardinia Imports

2013-11-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/11/21 sabas88 > Data is downloadable here > http://www.sardegnageoportale.it/catalogodati/download > > and we are organizing imports on chat, we have started a wiki page here > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Sardegna/Import > > Currently the data involved will be at least buildings, road

Re: [Imports] Best practices for address imports

2013-11-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/11/24 Martin Raifer > * If you had an address dataset that positions the addresses at or near to > the respective building entrances: Wouldn't it make sense to not conflate > the address data with building outlines? (Because by conflating the > usefulness of the data would actually be reduce

Re: [Imports] Import of public transport platforms in Styria (Austria)

2013-11-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 28/nov/2013 um 04:09 schrieb "Andreas Uller" : > > Any feedback is welcome. > this is not directly related to your import, but a disused highway=bus_stop may still be interesting in OSM, if there are physical remains (e.g. shelter, bench and for orientation). This depends on the area

Re: [Imports] Import of public transport platforms in Styria (Austria)

2013-12-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/12/3 Andreas Uller > The operator is not included in the data provided for the import, and > often there will be several bus line operators stopping at the same bus > stop. However, the operator tag is included in the bus route relations, so > it can be deducted from that, if someone wanted

Re: [Imports] Vermont Town boundaries from VCGI

2013-12-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/12/4 Greg Troxel > Thanks for the explanation. Given that, village as admin_level=10 (or 9 > if you want) sounds like exactly the right thing for me. > Perhaps rendering will need to catch up. > > This was interesting to read. Villages as a political entity in Vermont > seem far more firml

Re: [Imports] IENC of the German WSV

2013-12-10 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/12/10 Christian Wegerhoff Great to see the WSV data liberated. This applies in particular to harbor=yes/seamark:type=harbor and > historic=wreck/seamark: type=wreck. As a sidenote, there is a typo, it should be (and according to taginfo is) "harbour" because we use the British English sp

Re: [Imports] IENC of the German WSV

2013-12-11 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/12/10 Martin Koppenhoefer > E.g. seamark:type=harbour is fine for a seamark indicating a harbour, but > it isn't (IMHO) a nice tag for the harbour itself. it seems though, that what is currently done is exactly this: add seamark:type=harbour to the whole area of the har

Re: [Imports] IENC of the German WSV

2013-12-11 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 11/dic/2013 um 17:04 schrieb Christian Wegerhoff : > > There will be no such tags in the IENC data, so this is off topic here. > > I agree, there is a followup thread in tagging about the seamark prefix for stuff that isn't a seamark. https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/

Re: [Imports] Building outlines/footprints in Strzelce-Drezdenko county

2013-12-14 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/12/14 Jason Remillard > From the file, here are the actual tags+values. > > building:fireproof=no > building:fireproof=yes > > - Could you make a wiki page for this tag. It is used 90,000+ times. > It seems to be just from already started import? > +1, there should probably be a definition

Re: [Imports] Building outline in Urayasu city

2013-12-19 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/12/19 Satoshi IIDA > OK, I'll change "source=" to changeset comment. > (import files and wiki page are modified already) > or maybe better to a changeset tag "source" instead of the "comment". cheers, Martin ___ Imports mailing list Imports@opens

Re: [Imports] CAR Activation; experienced mappers to finish the import of UNICEF data?

2014-01-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014/1/8 Severin MENARD > Paul, > > I took you only 24 hours in December to stop this import. I would > appreciate the same speed to help us solving the issue(s) you identified > for this import that has humanitarian benefits. > if the import is not done nicely and the data or tagging has issue

Re: [Imports] Import UNICEF data in Central African Republic, act II

2014-01-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014/1/25 Bryce Nesbitt > I think that "source=UNICEF" very much belongs on each imported > record, as a mapper I would appreciate seeing that while editing. > and what would you do to this tag when editing one of the objects? How much would you have to modify them in order to remove the tag? O

Re: [Imports] Import UNICEF data in Central African Republic, act II

2014-01-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 25/gen/2014 um 10:05 schrieb Bryce Nesbitt : > > I would leave the source=Unicef tag in place. most mappers do this, that's the reason why you can't trust source tags on objects ;-) cheers, Martin ___ Imports mailing list Imports@openstreetmap

Re: [Imports] Import UNICEF data in Central African Republic, act II

2014-01-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 25/gen/2014 um 11:16 schrieb Michal Palenik : > > just of curiosity: is there an easy way (josm plugin/...) to view > history of a node/way/relation as given by changeset source tags? ctrl+h then click on changeset link ___ Imports mailing list

Re: [Imports] [Tagging] Bus data for Fairfax Connector, Fairfax County, Virginia, USA

2014-02-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
there is also the tag "network" that might be interesting to look at in this context: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:network http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Public_Transport cheers, Martin ___ Imports mailing list Imports@op

Re: [Imports] [Tagging] New module to merge-sort imports over time (osmfetch python)

2014-02-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2011/8/26 Bryce Nesbitt : >> My only technical comment regarding your script is that we usually put the >> source tag(s) on the changeset, not the individual node, nowadays. > But I'd like to keep source tags on the node, so hand mappers can understand > that the data is mastered  elsewhere. if t

Re: [Imports] Fwd: Re: [osm-pl] Fwd: Re: Import of addresses in Poland

2014-02-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 05/feb/2014 um 00:11 schrieb Andrzej Kępys : > > Kind of the law requires but only few respects it, so > collecting this data in the field is almost impossible. you could ring at their door and ask them ;-) Anyway, if you can't find the number in the real world it is also of much fewer u

Re: [Imports] Value of imports in general

2014-02-07 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 06/feb/2014 um 22:27 schrieb Johan C : > > associatedStreet relations on address nodes) in your opinion create a bad > experience for a new mapper? if stuff looks too complex it will draw away some people with initial interest in osm, associated street relations are one of these factors

Re: [Imports] Value of imports in general

2014-02-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-02-07 12:16 GMT+01:00 Christian Quest : > If an import results has the same data structure and quality as any manual > contribution, what's the problem ? > I hope this should have been quality as many _good_ manual contributions, because we have a lot of not so optimal manual contributions

Re: [Imports] Announce import of housenumbers in South Tyrol

2014-02-11 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-02-11 11:28 GMT+01:00 Pieren : > I > don't care much about the different ones but I hate small areas mixing > them. > I'd prefer the most simple approach (nodes, no relation), as it makes maintenance easier for unexperienced mappers and for those using less capable editors. cheers, Martin _

Re: [Imports] [osm-pl] Import adresów Gmina Wieprz

2014-02-20 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-02-20 3:26 GMT+01:00 Zbigniew Czernik : > > - 98% of the addresses in this file could have the building=yes tag > applied. > > I don't think so. How I can determine which address should have the > building tag? Should I compare every address with imagery? Yes you could do this, but it woul

Re: [Imports] [Talk-cz] CzechAddress Import

2014-03-11 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-03-11 12:01 GMT+01:00 Serge Wroclawski : > The current meaning doesn't fit the meaning of the English word at > all, which is part of our tagging "philosophy" (that tags should make > sense in English). > Really? Is this stated anywhere? How does it relate to amenity=prison? Or to highway=s

Re: [Imports] [Talk-cz] CzechAddress Import

2014-03-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-03-12 20:06 GMT+01:00 Petr Vejsada : > It exist in 8 cities only. Total count of meststa cast is 143. Mestska cast > has an administrative power. It has absolutely no relationship to > periphery. > It can be in periphery as well as in city town. There are no boundaries of > mestska cast in OS

Re: [Imports] [Talk-cz] CzechAddress Import

2014-03-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-03-12 21:01 GMT+01:00 Petr Vejsada : > Petr Vejsada > Boleslavska 20/1989 > 130 00 Praha 3 > Czech republic > > (it is not secret, it's in public registry like whois etc.) ;-) > > It can be written also as: > > Petr Vejsada > Boleslavska 20/1989 > 130 00 Praha 3 - Vinohrady > Czech republic

[Imports] imports distorting usage stats of source:maxspeed tag

2014-03-20 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Looking at actual usage numbers [1] for the tag "source:maxspeed" I noticed that a lot of uses that deviate from the key docu [2] in the wiki, actually came in by imports, namely - FDOT␣"Maximum␣Speed␣Limits"␣GIS␣data,␣updated␣August␣27,␣2011:␣ http://www.dot.state.fl.us/planning/statistics/gis/r

Re: [Imports] imports distorting usage stats of source:maxspeed tag

2014-03-20 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 20/mar/2014 um 16:29 schrieb Christian Quest : > > In some cases yes (maybe not that one), when the speedlimit is directly > painted on the road... yes, the proposed value is "markings" (currently used only 8 times) cheers, Martin ___ Imports ma

Re: [Imports] imports distorting usage stats of source:maxspeed tag

2014-03-20 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-03-20 17:25 GMT+01:00 SomeoneElse : > On 20/03/2014 15:15, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > also this one seems strange: > BING␣+␣wiedza␣własna<http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/source%3Amaxspeed=BING%20%2B%20wiedza%20w%C5%82asna> > (can you get speed limits

Re: [Imports] CLC meadow cleanup

2014-03-22 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 22/mar/2014 um 11:48 schrieb Christoph Hormann : > > - in central Europe bare rock is rarely continuous over areas large > enough to be sensibly mapped on the scale of CLC. scale is a good point with regard to CLC in general: insufficient in CLC compared to osm scale. that's why CLC ha

Re: [Imports] CLC meadow cleanup

2014-03-22 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 22/mar/2014 um 08:32 schrieb "Paul Norman" : > > 2. Are there other CLC classifications which are just as bad? IMHO CLC generally not suited for OSM due to the scale. cheers, Martin ___ Imports mailing list Imports@openstreetmap.org https://li

Re: [Imports] CLC meadow cleanup

2014-03-23 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 22/mar/2014 um 21:59 schrieb Pieren : > > Because if you remove CLC meadow, you > should remove all CLC landuses. And you should not stop in France but > go ahead for all European countries where CLC was imported because it > was the same source/process, +1 cheers, Martin __

Re: [Imports] imports distorting usage stats of source:maxspeed tag

2014-03-23 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-03-20 17:37 GMT+01:00 Martin Koppenhoefer : > 2014-03-20 17:25 GMT+01:00 SomeoneElse : > > On 20/03/2014 15:15, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> >> >> also this one seems strange: >> BING␣+␣wiedza␣własna<http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/source%3Amaxspe

Re: [Imports] CLC meadow cleanup

2014-03-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 23/mar/2014 um 13:10 schrieb "Paul Norman" : >>> : >>> >>> Because if you remove CLC meadow, you >>> should remove all CLC landuses. And you should not stop in France but >>> go ahead for all European countries where CLC was imported because it >>> was the same source/process, >> >> +1 > >

Re: [Imports] CLC meadow cleanup

2014-03-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-03-24 10:56 GMT+01:00 Pieren : > Altrough the CLC program is european, > it's done by many different operators in a long run. The quality > varies from region to region. > yes, but generally the quality is good :) The problem is the scale, CORINE is in scale 1:100.000, while our tiles go to

Re: [Imports] imports distorting usage stats of source:maxspeed tag

2014-03-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-03-23 21:48 GMT+01:00 Richard Welty : > i think it's worth pointing out that NE2's use of source:maxspeed > was not controversial and had nothing to do with his departure. > +1 that it wasn't the reason that he left and it wasn't discussed with him at the time, but yet it was controversial

Re: [Imports] [Talk-cz] CzechAddress Import

2014-03-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-03-26 6:43 GMT+01:00 Dalibor Jelínek : > We will even erase these tags from existing address nodes during the > import as we want to have all Czech addresses in the same format. you should not do this. Please do not automatically delete tags that were entered manually. cheers, Martin ___

Re: [Imports] [Talk-cz] CzechAddress Import

2014-03-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-03-26 15:40 GMT+01:00 Pieren : > On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > > you should not do this. Please do not automatically delete tags that were > > entered manually. > > I think there is a large consensus that some tags like "addr:country"

Re: [Imports] [Talk-cz] CzechAddress Import

2014-03-27 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-03-27 5:18 GMT+01:00 Dalibor Jelínek : > Well, I agree with Pieren. > > Either the tags are necessary or they are not, it cannot be both. > these tags are often not necessary, but sometimes they are indeed helpful. E.g. if close to a border having the addr:country tag is useful for practic

Re: [Imports] imports distorting usage stats of source:maxspeed tag

2014-03-29 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-03-29 19:18 GMT+01:00 Rob Nickerson : > I would strongly recommend that you use the maxspeed:type tag [2] as it > less likely to suffer from the same problem you have identified. We use > this tag in the UK and as such the following tag combination is valid: Somehow I feel tempted to do so

Re: [Imports] "fleet manager" speed limit import proposal (Canada, USA)

2014-04-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-04-03 14:45 GMT+02:00 Richard Weait : > > Introduction: > I have a source for posted speed limit data. This thread begins the > discussion of the data, the origin and quality of the data, and the > suitability of the data to OpenStreetMap. > does it contain the positions of speed limit sig

Re: [Imports] Vermont Town boundaries from VCGI

2014-05-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-05-04 20:59 GMT+02:00 Elliott Plack : > In my experience, place=hamlet,village,town,city are *better placed as > nodes* at the boundary centroid, rather than with ways representing the > boundary. Mapnik and Mapbox use the nodes rather than the boundary lines to > render. I am pretty familiar

Re: [Imports] Vermont Town boundaries from VCGI

2014-05-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-05-05 19:17 GMT+02:00 Elliott Plack : > Martin, thanks for pointing that out. I should clarify. I'm not against > this import so long as the community thinks boundaries are good for OSM. As > for the place=* tags, if there isn't a conflict in placing them both on the > boundary and a node, th

Re: [Imports] Vermont Town boundaries from VCGI

2014-05-06 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 06/mag/2014 um 09:01 schrieb Andrew Guertin : > > ...and that seems more appropriate for the official_name= tag. +1 cheers, Martin ___ Imports mailing list Imports@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/imports

Re: [Imports] Japan, KSJ2 municipality administrative boundary re-import

2014-05-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-05-12 2:44 GMT+02:00 Satoshi IIDA : > There are some arguments to change "Prefecture" system to "State" system > in Japan politics. > (yes, it would take long years indeed...) > > If this change would be applied even as partially, we could not keep a way > to represent the new systems. > So I

Re: [Imports] Japan, KSJ2 municipality administrative boundary re-import

2014-05-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-05-12 13:39 GMT+02:00 Satoshi IIDA : > So I do not have intention to add "place" tag to Way or Relation objects. > I think "place" tag is to be used to Node (as relation's "admin_centre" > role member). I didn't mean to argue against tagging settlements, or parts of them, as areas, my poin

Re: [Imports] [tl; dr] Re: cleanup broken import "fix"

2014-05-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-05-28 23:48 GMT+02:00 malenki : > Since I got some strange questions this is what I want to do in a > nutshell: > For all objects with WorstFixer has touched with water=lake;pond on > them: > > drop all tags except > natural=water > source=NHD > intermittent=yes > do you have a complete lis

Re: [Imports] [tl; dr] Re: cleanup broken import "fix"

2014-05-29 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-05-29 11:42 GMT+02:00 Serge Wroclawski : > > > gnis:feature_id=* 26 > > gnis:id=* 6577 > > The US community has discussed these tags and wants them to stay. Do > not remove them. I'd call any removal of those vandalism. > Do you have guidelines or suggestions how to hand

Re: [Imports] Handling of existing buildings in NYC import (was Re: Buildings & Address in Washington, DC, USA.)

2014-06-06 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-06-06 3:02 GMT+02:00 Alex Barth : > - Preserve existing buildings where they had higher quality than import > buildings I think it is preferable to reuse all existing geometry (if possible), e.g. you can use replace geometry from the utilsplugin2 to preserve history and tags: http://wiki.

Re: [Imports] N50 imports from Kartverket (The Norwegian Mapping Authority)

2014-06-22 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 21/giu/2014 um 23:03 schrieb Paul Norman : > > As a reminder, CC BY 3.0 and earlier are incompatible for reasons related to > the attribution requirements. can you expand on this? I remember there are already heaps of data with these licenses (cc-by 3.0 and older) in OSM. cheers, Marti

Re: [Imports] Fwd: Import os waterways in São Paulo, Brazil

2014-07-18 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 17/lug/2014 um 20:17 schrieb Vitor George : > > It seems that the proper tagging would be waterway=ditch+tunnel=yes as they > are mostly underground man-made channels. using ditch on an underground feature seems a bit odd to me. I'd use waterway=stream (presuming these are not man made

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