Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] General Branding Experience for Indiana

2007-09-28 Thread Glynn Foster
Chris Mahan wrote: > > On 9/28/07, *Glynn Foster* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > > I'm very much supportive of advertising the GNOME brand. While I > don't expect to > see a big foot on the desktop, I think there's definitely a place for it > somewh

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] General Branding Experience for Indiana

2007-09-28 Thread Chris Mahan
On 9/28/07, Glynn Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'm very much supportive of advertising the GNOME brand. While I don't > expect to > see a big foot on the desktop, I think there's definitely a place for it > somewhere. GNOME (in my opinion) is getting increasing industry support, > and I

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] General Branding Experience for Indiana

2007-09-28 Thread Glynn Foster
Calum Benson wrote: > On Fri, 2007-09-28 at 08:43 -0700, Alan Coopersmith wrote: >> Sara Dornsife wrote: >>> I'm too ignorant to understand why the desktop needs a name >> So that you can choose which one you want in the login menus. >> The name "GNOME" works well for that purpose though, esp

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] General Branding Experience for Indiana

2007-09-28 Thread Shawn Walker
On 28/09/2007, Calum Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2007-09-28 at 08:43 -0700, Alan Coopersmith wrote: > > Sara Dornsife wrote: > > > I'm too ignorant to understand why the desktop needs a name > > > > So that you can choose which one you want in the login menus. > > The name "GNOM

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] General Branding Experience for Indiana

2007-09-28 Thread Sara Dornsife
Alan Coopersmith wrote: > Sara Dornsife wrote: >> I'm too ignorant to understand why the desktop needs a name > > So that you can choose which one you want in the login menus. > The name "GNOME" works well for that purpose though, especially > if KDE packages are put together so you simply se

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] General Branding Experience for Indiana

2007-09-28 Thread Calum Benson
On Fri, 2007-09-28 at 08:43 -0700, Alan Coopersmith wrote: > Sara Dornsife wrote: > > I'm too ignorant to understand why the desktop needs a name > > So that you can choose which one you want in the login menus. > The name "GNOME" works well for that purpose though, especially > if KDE package

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] General Branding Experience for Indiana

2007-09-28 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Sara Dornsife wrote: > I'm too ignorant to understand why the desktop needs a name So that you can choose which one you want in the login menus. The name "GNOME" works well for that purpose though, especially if KDE packages are put together so you simply see "GNOME" and "KDE" as choices. --

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] General Branding Experience for Indiana

2007-09-28 Thread Sara Dornsife
I'm too ignorant to understand why the desktop needs a name Jim Grisanzio wrote: > Shawn Walker wrote: > >> No offense to the fine folks at GNOME, but I really, really, hope that >> the foot *dies* the death it deserves to as a product branding item. > > > > Agree. Not a foot fan. Needs to be

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] General Branding Experience for Indiana

2007-09-27 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Shawn Walker wrote: > No offense to the fine folks at GNOME, but I really, really, hope that > the foot *dies* the death it deserves to as a product branding item. Agree. Not a foot fan. Needs to be something based on OpenSolaris ... Jim -- Jim Grisanzio http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris _

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] General Branding Experience for Indiana

2007-09-27 Thread elw
> I did a direct marketing campaign a few years ago to promote Solaris x86 > (as it was once called) and sent out actual metal street signs. :) > > We have created some artwork recently for tshirts and hoodies that > include a string that ends up spelling something (image attached). I > think

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] General Branding Experience for Indiana

2007-09-27 Thread Calum Benson
On Thu, 2007-09-27 at 10:46 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Which begs the question... what should it get replaced with? We used to use the OpenSolaris globe on our external builds... whatever happened to that? Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] General Branding Experience for Indiana

2007-09-27 Thread Shawn Walker
On 27/09/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >> Yah, perhaps "simple" is the wrong word. When I used Ubuntu I had the > >> /feeling/ of simplicity and elegance (though wireless never worked for > >> me). Someone sat down and thought the brand through at least to a > >> certai

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] General Branding Experience for Indiana

2007-09-27 Thread Shawn Walker
On 27/09/2007, Alan Coopersmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sara Dornsife wrote: > > The coffee cup is in Solaris Express and Solaris, a Sun product. I don't > > think it belongs in a community distribution. > > Even Solaris is phasing out the confusing branding of the "Java Desktop > System", tho

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] General Branding Experience for Indiana

2007-09-27 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Sara Dornsife wrote: > The coffee cup is in Solaris Express and Solaris, a Sun product. I don't > think it belongs in a community distribution. Even Solaris is phasing out the confusing branding of the "Java Desktop System", though I don't know if that extends to replacing the coffee cup, or if s

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] General Branding Experience for Indiana

2007-09-27 Thread elw
>> Yah, perhaps "simple" is the wrong word. When I used Ubuntu I had the >> /feeling/ of simplicity and elegance (though wireless never worked for >> me). Someone sat down and thought the brand through at least to a >> certain extent, and I appreciated that. I love the Java coffee cup (but >

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] General Branding Experience for Indiana

2007-09-27 Thread Sara Dornsife
Jim Grisanzio wrote: Patrick Finch wrote: Jim Grisanzio wrote: Glynn Foster wrote: Brandorr wrote: On 9/12/07, Glynn Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hey, One issue that probably requires some thought is the general branding experience of Indiana from

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] General Branding Experience for Indiana

2007-09-27 Thread Jim Grisanzio
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Yah, perhaps "simple" is the wrong word. When I used Ubuntu I had the >> /feeling/ of simplicity and elegance (though wireless never worked for >> me). Someone sat down and thought the brand through at least to a >> certain extent, and I appreciated that. I love the J

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] General Branding Experience for Indiana

2007-09-27 Thread elw
> Yah, perhaps "simple" is the wrong word. When I used Ubuntu I had the > /feeling/ of simplicity and elegance (though wireless never worked for > me). Someone sat down and thought the brand through at least to a > certain extent, and I appreciated that. I love the Java coffee cup (but > the o

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] General Branding Experience for Indiana

2007-09-27 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Patrick Finch wrote: > Jim Grisanzio wrote: >> Glynn Foster wrote: >>> Brandorr wrote: On 9/12/07, Glynn Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey, > > One issue that probably requires some thought is the general > branding experience > of Indiana from a user point of view -

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] General Branding Experience for Indiana

2007-09-27 Thread Glynn Foster
Jim Grisanzio wrote: > I know others have suggested replacing the various Sun branding elements > with OpenSolaris elements, which I support, but I'm wondering if the > coffee cup will stay in the launch menu? :) Someone mentioned that to me > the other day, so I thought I'd ask (sorry if I misse

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] General Branding Experience for Indiana

2007-09-27 Thread Patrick Finch
Jim Grisanzio wrote: > Glynn Foster wrote: >> Brandorr wrote: >>> On 9/12/07, Glynn Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hey, One issue that probably requires some thought is the general branding experience of Indiana from a user point of view - that is, the user experience f

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] General Branding Experience for Indiana

2007-09-27 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Glynn Foster wrote: > > Brandorr wrote: >> On 9/12/07, Glynn Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Hey, >>> >>> One issue that probably requires some thought is the general branding >>> experience >>> of Indiana from a user point of view - that is, the user experience from >>> when >>> that firs

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] General Branding Experience for Indiana

2007-09-14 Thread michelle olson
Jay Edwards wrote: On Sep 12, 2007, at 5:22 AM, Glynn Foster wrote: [2]. There are lots of opportunities to get our brand across, and provide useful information for the new user - but what, where and when? Where? == These are the locations I can think of off the top of my head - are

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] General Branding Experience for Indiana

2007-09-13 Thread Jay Edwards
On Sep 12, 2007, at 5:22 AM, Glynn Foster wrote: > > [2]. There are lots of opportunities to get our brand across, and > provide useful > information for the new user - but what, where and when? > > Where? > == > These are the locations I can think of off the top of my head - are > there >

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] General Branding Experience for Indiana

2007-09-13 Thread David Lloyd
Brandorr, > Did I miss something? Did we even figure out what the Indiana Brand is > yet? (e.g. Does it have a name, logo, etc?) I don't know what Indiana is meant to represent; I'm quite happy with SXCE myself. Indiana is something that may as well start with Ian whose second part stars with

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] General Branding Experience for Indiana

2007-09-13 Thread Alan Coopersmith
David Lloyd wrote: > Apart from Hype, what does Indiana deliver me? Much less to download to upgrade between builds than SXCE - why download the same 2 copies of StarOffice (European version & Asian version) in every SXCE build when you can connect to Indiana's package repository to just get the p

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] General Branding Experience for Indiana

2007-09-13 Thread Jim Grisanzio
David Lloyd wrote: > Brandorr, > >> Did I miss something? Did we even figure out what the Indiana Brand is >> yet? (e.g. Does it have a name, logo, etc?) > > I don't know what Indiana is meant to represent; I'm quite happy with > SXCE myself. Indiana is something that may as well start with Ian

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] General Branding Experience for Indiana

2007-09-13 Thread Mark Phalan
On Thu, 2007-09-13 at 12:11 +1200, Glynn Foster wrote: > > Brandorr wrote: > > On 9/12/07, Glynn Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Hey, > >> > >> One issue that probably requires some thought is the general branding > >> experience > >> of Indiana from a user point of view - that is, the use

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] General Branding Experience for Indiana

2007-09-12 Thread Glynn Foster
Brandorr wrote: > On 9/12/07, Glynn Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hey, >> >> One issue that probably requires some thought is the general branding >> experience >> of Indiana from a user point of view - that is, the user experience from when >> that first LiveCD enters the CD-ROM tray and

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] General Branding Experience for Indiana

2007-09-12 Thread Brandorr
On 9/12/07, Glynn Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey, > > One issue that probably requires some thought is the general branding > experience > of Indiana from a user point of view - that is, the user experience from when > that first LiveCD enters the CD-ROM tray and comes up on the system, t

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] General Branding Experience for Indiana

2007-09-12 Thread Marcelo Leal
What i think would be very useful for the users (in general), would be a "help" system integrated with the "knowledge base" of opensolaris forums. I mean, a integrated app, running on the "panel", or on firefox search bar... I did not see anything like that, but i think would be great. The opensol

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] General Branding Experience for Indiana

2007-09-12 Thread Shawn Walker
On 12/09/2007, Tim Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 15:49 +0200, Mark Phalan wrote: > On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 15:54 +0200, Alvaro Lopez Ortega wrote: > > > I don't think that showing the OpenSolaris feed on the desktop would > > make a good first impression (it could be misun

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] General Branding Experience for Indiana

2007-09-12 Thread Tim Foster
On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 15:49 +0200, Mark Phalan wrote: On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 15:54 +0200, Alvaro Lopez Ortega wrote: > I don't think that showing the OpenSolaris feed on the desktop would > make a good first impression (it could be misunderstood). > I'm against the idea of having RSS headlines by

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] General Branding Experience for Indiana

2007-09-12 Thread Alvaro Lopez Ortega
Tim Foster wrote, On 12/09/07 15:38: > On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 15:18 +0200, Alvaro Lopez Ortega wrote: >> Tim Foster wrote, On 12/09/07 14:59: >> >> > * No idea if this is possible with Compiz (Erwann?) but a desktop >> >background/app with semi-translucent RSS headlines > >> I don't kn

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] General Branding Experience for Indiana

2007-09-12 Thread Mark Phalan
On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 14:38 +0100, Tim Foster wrote: > On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 15:18 +0200, Alvaro Lopez Ortega wrote: > > Tim Foster wrote, On 12/09/07 14:59: > > > > > * No idea if this is possible with Compiz (Erwann?) but a desktop > > >background/app with semi-translucent RSS headlines >

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] General Branding Experience for Indiana

2007-09-12 Thread Tim Foster
On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 15:18 +0200, Alvaro Lopez Ortega wrote: > Tim Foster wrote, On 12/09/07 14:59: > > > * No idea if this is possible with Compiz (Erwann?) but a desktop > >background/app with semi-translucent RSS headlines > I don't know if that is a good idea. People will use Indiana

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] General Branding Experience for Indiana

2007-09-12 Thread Alvaro Lopez Ortega
Tim Foster wrote, On 12/09/07 14:59: > * No idea if this is possible with Compiz (Erwann?) but a desktop >background/app with semi-translucent RSS headlines from >planet.opensolaris.org might make for some nice dynamic visuals >along with the static desktop image. Again technicall

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] General Branding Experience for Indiana

2007-09-12 Thread Tim Foster
Hi Glynn & co. On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 22:22 +1200, Glynn Foster wrote: > These are the locations I can think of off the top of my head - are there > others? Can we think outside the box of an improved experience that we don't > currently provide? >Where? > == here goes: * A "tip of the day"

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] General Branding Experience for Indiana

2007-09-12 Thread Anil Gulecha
On 9/12/07, Glynn Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey, > > One issue that probably requires some thought is the general branding > experience > of Indiana from a user point of view - that is, the user experience from when > that first LiveCD enters the CD-ROM tray and comes up on the system, t