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Kate Ebneter [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Well, I believe that the result would be enormously bloated and
unwieldy, and would not benefit anyone, particularly, given that there
are plenty of other version control systems that work the
On Thursday, February 17, 2000 11:43 AM, |}avid (opeland
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Why does CVS treat removed files in such a special way? To be more
specific,
consider the following example:
ls
CVS/
blah.c
main.c
blah.h
cvs tag -F some_tag
T blah.c
T main.c
T blah.h
[
This seems like the appropriate thread for this:
1. All cvs commands work in cvs managed directories.
2. "cvs add" must work in cvs managed directories to be consistent with the
cvs user interface.
3. By definition, a subdirectory of a cvs managed directory is a cvs managed
directory, whether or
The argument which goes like this:
"hey if you want locking use another product..."
Doesn't fit the requirement for a centralized
repository for source code and web content.
Content, such as HTML and GIFs,
can not be merged. Source code can.
File locking is necessary for content unless
the
Hi,
does anyone know if there is a commercial client/server version for
Windows NT Server of CVS.
/Johan E
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[ On Tuesday, February 15, 2000 at 14:33:51 (-0600), David Thornley wrote: ]
Subject: Re: CVS File Locking
Besides, there are things that cannot be developed concurrently,
since they are unmergeable, for good reasons or bad.
CVS is not
Paul Sander wrote:
In that case, there's not a solution available. BTW, you'll find that
keyword expansion causes other problems, so you'll probably prefer to
use -ko or -kb anyway.
You didn't understand me. I downloaded sources of 1.10.8 and changed
the behaviour of keyword expansion
Paul Sander wrote :
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|| Very yes. Though unix has extensionless files, the web and MIME are defacto
|| using suffixes for file type id.
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|| Well, they do and they don't. MIME provides a way of supplying the type of
|| some content along with the
Thanks all
Hi All,
I'm new to CVS and plan to use it for my next project but currently the
CVS server only available in unix version. So, I was wondering is there
a version of CVS (server not client) written entirely in Java. If not,
does OpenAvenue has any plan for it?
Note:
I don't have any intention
Current Scenario
1. I have created a CVSrepository.
2. I want to limit those who can EDIT files which belong to the repository.
To accomplish this purpose, Ihave created a UNIX group and have assigned
all the files in the repository with that group.
3. I used the "cvs watch on" command to make
Tom Satter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Karl -- is there a way to let the team that is maintaining
the cyclic.com CVS repository know of a bug fix without being
on this list? Should the fix simply be sent to bug-cvs
or info-cvs? If I am not on either of these two lists
(I am planning to
"Greg A. Woods" wrote:
[ On Tuesday, February 15, 2000 at 14:33:51 (-0600), David Thornley wrote: ]
Subject: Re: CVS File Locking
So, please tell me where in Berliner's paper it says what you claim
it says. You can use either the page numbers or the internal
subdivisions.
"Win32 M$" wrote:
Hi All,
OK, what if we remove the locks completely? Any objections? If I am the only
one who thinks that feature should be under control, I will step out and
give a way to an option of completely removing the locks. I will do it
If you mean remove "cvs admin -l", sure.
I asked if there is an interrest to include my changes to main development
branch
of CVS under another kflag (e. g. -kkvp).
Well even if there's no interest in integrating it back into the main
tree I would be interested in a patch which does that.
Mike
Andrei Chevel writes:
cvs commit: Up-to-date check failed for `TestCVS.tex'
cvs [commit aborted]: correct above errors first!
It means what it says: TestCVS.tex is not up to date -- there's a newer
version in the repository. You need to do a ``cvs update TestCVS.tex''
(and check that the
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[ On Tuesday, February 15, 2000 at 17:56:17 (-0800), Paul Sander wrote: ]
Subject: Re: CVS File Locking
He does not explore any cases where there are no viable merge methods for
his source files.
Of course not. That's outside the scope of the problem being solved.
If you want to use CVS
[ On Tuesday, February 15, 2000 at 18:28:45 (-0800), Paul Sander wrote: ]
Subject: Re: Blinded by philosophy (kinda long)
The simple answer to your question about "why do people want locking
in CVS" is that they prefer the concurrent model,
That's only true in some portion of the requests
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pohl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Let me ask: what is it about locking and concurrency that makes them
mutually exclusive? Other software manages to find design patterns that
allow them to handle configurable policies. (The X11 mantra "mechanism
not
I've been out of the country for awhile and had unsubscribed to this list.
Back in Sept there was a call for ideas on a re-design of CVS and there was
mention of a mailing list being created for that purpose. Did that ever
happen? If so, what is the mailing list? Thanks!
Craig
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 02/16/2000 12:50:51 AM
My proposal was an RFC of sorts -- eventually it will come with "working
code" to prove the concept (just as the original release of CVS offered
a way to prove the validity of the copy-modify-merge paradigm). The
final pudding will be in how widely
How can i delete or remove a numeric sticky tag?
Atentamente,
Carlos Arturo Quiroga Quiroga
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 02/16/2000 02:29:45 AM
But that is the problem, each and every developer doesn't know who all the
other developers are.
They do if they use "cvs edit" and "cvs watch".
CVS is not a substitute for management.
But it is! CVS is supposed to manage a whole lot of files for
Hello,
I'm pleased to announce the first snapshot of gcvs 1.0a1. Check-out the
download pages of http://www.wincvs.org. The idea is to get a GTK
front-end + a cvs process :
* The GTK front-end : written in C++, wrapped around a "pseudo interface
library". The idea is to be able to port that on
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[ On Tuesday, February 15, 2000 at 18:10:16 (-0800), Paul Sander wrote: ]
Subject: Re: CVS File Locking
Keep in mind that the choice is to decide which change disappears
into the ether, and the answer may be a very impractical "neither".
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 02/16/2000 03:54:05 PM
OK, what if we remove the locks completely? Any objections? If I am the only
one who thinks that feature should be under control, I will step out and
give a way to an option of completely removing the locks. I
Craig L. Ching wrote:
I've been out of the country for awhile and had unsubscribed to this list.
Back in Sept there was a call for ideas on a re-design of CVS and there
was
mention of a mailing list being created for that purpose. Did that ever
happen? If so, what is the mailing list?
Paul Sander wrote:
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Kate Ebneter [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
snip
Please, really, I'd really like to know why, if you want to do
serialized synchronized development using locking, you chose CVS in the
first place? There
Define LockDir in CVSROOT/config.
Allow group write access to all the directories in the repo.
Allow only read and execute access to all the directories in the repo.
Read the manual for more details.
Noel
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[ On Tuesday, February 15, 2000 at 21:57:53 (-0700), Tom Satter wrote: ]
Subject: Re: Blinded by philosophy, Re: iVS (Was: CVS File Locking)
Greg -- I apologize for disagreeing so vehemently with you.
That does not mean that I agree now -- just that the
way that I disagreed was not
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 02/17/2000 02:23:30 AM
In fact there is another way to solve the problem of facist locking. It
could be passed to the client (gui) application. For example it would be
quite easy to teach the WinCvs to prevent locking for some files and enforce
locking for the others when
[ On Wednesday, February 16, 2000 at 12:43:31 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ]
Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server
"cvs add dir" *must* operate on the local directory in so far as to create CVS
admin subdirectories within those local directories. It should
Back in the "old days", Cyclic used to provide fee-based support for
CVS, and they had clearly visible rates on their site. Does anyone
know if SourceGear, or rather, OpenAvenue, provides fee-based CVS
support, or must one go to third party consultants now?
The SourceGear site lists some
file is registered by `cvs add' on branch, then
revision on branch is created.
also dead revision is created on trunk.
commit log of dead revision is automatically generated:
"file %s was initially added on branch %s.", file, tag
Problem:
If many files is registered by cvs add on branch,
[ On Wednesday, February 16, 2000 at 03:10:02 (-0800), Paul Sander wrote: ]
Subject: Re: Blinded by philosophy (kinda long)
The analogy I would use rather than find/grep is more like cmp/comm/diff/diff3.
These all do similar tasks, but in different ways. Do we want all of their
in a single,
[ On Wednesday, February 16, 2000 at 14:57:26 (-0600), David Thornley wrote: ]
Subject: Re: CVS File Locking
Such recreation of changes is a perfectly valid solution. Nothing needs
to be lost of given up.
I suddenly feel like I'm in an alien universe. Certainly you're aware
that this
I have read the 2 paragraphs in the docs and it makes no sense. There are no
examples and the output I get seems to be nowhere near what I expect.
Example:
cvs history blah.c
spits out HUGE amounts of info on millions of files, not just on blah.c as I
would expect. Therefore in 'cvs history
Kate Ebneter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
...and an equal number of people saying that the locking they're asking
for is INCOMPATIBLE with the design goals of CVS!
And, on this subject:
I will contend that conceptual integrity is *the* most important
consideration in system design. It is
[ On Wednesday, February 16, 2000 at 15:25:24 (-0600), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ]
Subject: let's all take turns ranting
That's one alternative. Forking is another. Neither is as cool
as cooperating with an extant tool's community.
You literally cannot co-operate on diametrically opposed
[ On Wednesday, February 16, 2000 at 17:38:05 (-0800), Alfred Perlstein wrote: ]
Subject: Re: Blinded by philosophy (kinda long)
One shouldn't have to fork a project just to get some real fixes in.
You just never know "open source" isn't that easy, especially when
the maintainer hat has
[ On Wednesday, February 16, 2000 at 18:45:25 (-0500), Dave Makower wrote: ]
Subject: CVS Support?
Back in the "old days", Cyclic used to provide fee-based support for
CVS, and they had clearly visible rates on their site. Does anyone
know if SourceGear, or rather, OpenAvenue, provides
On Thursday, February 17, 2000 2:49 PM, |}avid (opeland
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Essentially, I am version controlling a website. As such files, assets,
etc.
get added and removed. On our live site, all files are checked out with
the
tag 'live'.
So you are using a constant
[ On Wednesday, February 16, 2000 at 17:48:38 (-0800), |}avid (opeland wrote: ]
Subject: Re: Why does CVS treat removed files so specially?
The problem occurs when doing more sophisticated developemnt. We have
essentially 5 layers - 1 where developers work, 1 where files are merged and
Note that main.c DOES NOT get tagged. Even if you 'cvs tag -F some_tag
main.c'
it does not get tagged. You can ONLY tag the new (dead) revision, via
'cvs tag -r 1.2 main.c', which is cumbersome, because not all files in a
source
tree are on the same revision. You can also do 'cvs tag -r HEAD
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