Re: Discouraging :local:

2003-01-28 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Tuesday, January 28, 2003 at 08:38:31 (+0100), Fabian Cenedese wrote: ] > Subject: Re: Discouraging :local: > > > > > Well, generically speaking Ethernet's FCS field is a 32-bit CRC of the > > > whole data frame. However if I understand the math correctly t

Re: Discouraging :local:

2003-01-28 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Monday, January 27, 2003 at 22:38:40 (-0800), Kenneth Porter wrote: ] > Subject: Re: Discouraging :local: > > One could presumably enhance this by encrypting the connection (eg. SSL) so > that the encryption system supplies another layer of error detection. > Anyone know h

Re: Discouraging :local:

2003-01-28 Thread Larry Jones
Fabian Cenedese writes: > > As far as I followed the discussions here I think that the problem is not > the main transport over ethernet but the real (not fully lockable) cvs > operation on the server if you access a NFS repository with :local: > Only if the server cvs does the operation itself it

Re: Discouraging :local:

2003-01-27 Thread Fabian Cenedese
> Well, generically speaking Ethernet's FCS field is a 32-bit CRC of the > whole data frame. However if I understand the math correctly that means > that only 32-bit or shorter errors (remember Ethernet is serial) can be > detected reliabliy and "only" about 99.955% of error bursts longer than >

Re: Discouraging :local:

2003-01-27 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Monday, January 27, 2003 6:20 PM -0500 "Greg A. Woods" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As far as I know samba has no locking protocol (I > don't think the underlying SMB protocol has locking either, but I may be > mistaken). There's something called an "opportunistic lock" or "oplock", opportun

Re: Discouraging :local:

2003-01-27 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Monday, January 27, 2003 at 02:48:59 (-0800), Kenneth Porter wrote: ] > Subject: Re: Discouraging :local: > > --On Saturday, January 25, 2003 2:42 PM -0500 "Greg A. Woods" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The latter, the sharing part, is where

Re: Discouraging :local:

2003-01-27 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Saturday, January 25, 2003 2:42 PM -0500 "Greg A. Woods" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The latter, the sharing part, is where the real trouble begins. Ensuring reliable order of operations for various operations which would be "atomic" on a local filesystem is very very difficult (literally imp

Re: Discouraging :local:

2003-01-25 Thread Larry Jones
Kenneth Porter writes: > > But *why* is that bad? After all, a SCSI disk is on the other end of a SCSI > cable, and so is "networked" in some sense. Why is that ok but a "network" > disk is not? Because the SCSI protocol, while horribly complicated in its own right, is simple compared to network

Re: Discouraging :local:

2003-01-25 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, January 24, 2003 at 21:57:57 (-0800), Kenneth Porter wrote: ] > Subject: Re: Discouraging :local: > > --On Thursday, January 23, 2003 12:43 PM -0500 Larry Jones > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > What makes :local: inadvisable is the disk not being local, b

Re: Discouraging :local:

2003-01-25 Thread david
> --On Thursday, January 23, 2003 12:43 PM -0500 Larry Jones > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > What makes :local: inadvisable is the disk not being local, but rather > > being on some kind of network filesystem. I don't know of any way to > > detect that. > > But *why* is that bad? After all, a

Re: Discouraging :local:

2003-01-24 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Thursday, January 23, 2003 12:43 PM -0500 Larry Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What makes :local: inadvisable is the disk not being local, but rather > being on some kind of network filesystem. I don't know of any way to > detect that. But *why* is that bad? After all, a SCSI disk is on

Re: Discouraging :local:

2003-01-23 Thread Larry Jones
Kenneth Porter writes: > > Perhaps a better way to phrase the issue is: What properties of a > filesystem make :local: inadvisable, and can those properties be easily > detected? What makes :local: inadvisable is the disk not being local, but rather being on some kind of network filesystem. I do

Discouraging :local:

2003-01-23 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Wednesday, January 22, 2003 12:08 PM -0500 Eric Siegerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That'd be nice. Rather a challenge to implement though -- how > *does* one tell, portably and from application code, whether a > given directory is locally or remotely mounted? Perhaps a better way to phr