Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-03-14 Thread Noel L Yap
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 03/13/2000 11:47:53 PM >> >Although I would lean towards honouring the "add" request, it might be >> >prudent to at least print a warning message indicating that the >> >directory would normally have been ignored if it had been traversed from >> >the "root" of the module i

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-03-13 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Thursday, March 9, 2000 at 10:11:25 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] > Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 03/08/2000 04:27:12 PM > >[ On Tuesday, March 7, 2000 at 09:39:03 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] &

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-03-09 Thread Noel L Yap
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 03/08/2000 04:27:12 PM >[ On Tuesday, March 7, 2000 at 09:39:03 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] >> Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server >> What if the >> final lines were "cvs add" instea

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-03-09 Thread Noel L Yap
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 03/08/2000 03:18:04 PM >> >Even still, what's wrong with an 'all-in-one' to add something to the module >> >file as well? (or are you of the 'if it can be in a script, it mustn't be in >> >the regular program' camp?) >> >> I know I'm in the 'if it can be in a script, it mu

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-03-09 Thread Noel L Yap
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 03/08/2000 04:23:10 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server >[ On Tuesday, March 7, 2000 at 09:47:39 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote:

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-03-08 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Tuesday, March 7, 2000 at 09:39:03 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] > Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 03/06/2000 04:34:02 PM > > Once again CVS admin directories will be created where necessary and th

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-03-08 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Tuesday, March 7, 2000 at 09:47:39 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] > Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server > > No, Greg, you're confusing the term "operate on" with "version". Just 'cos CVS > *operates o

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-03-08 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Tuesday, March 7, 2000 at 21:23:34 (-0600), Michael Gersten wrote: ] > Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server > > Even still, what's wrong with an 'all-in-one' to add something to the module > file as well? (or are you

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-03-08 Thread Noel L Yap
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 03/07/2000 10:23:34 PM >"Greg A. Woods" wrote: >> > Make sure that you don't permit 'cvs co mispelling' to create a new >> > directory when 'cvs co misspelling' was intended. >> >> If you spell it right in the "CVSROOT/modules" entry then all should be >> well... :-) >> >

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-03-08 Thread Michael Gersten
"Greg A. Woods" wrote: > > Make sure that you don't permit 'cvs co mispelling' to create a new > > directory when 'cvs co misspelling' was intended. > > If you spell it right in the "CVSROOT/modules" entry then all should be > well... :-) > > > How about 'cvs new module-name module-dir local-di

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-03-07 Thread Noel L Yap
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 03/06/2000 05:59:45 PM >[ On Monday, March 6, 2000 at 15:17:02 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] >> Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server >> >> Although "cvs watch dir" won't actually watch &

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-03-07 Thread Noel L Yap
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 03/06/2000 04:34:02 PM >> Also, I just thought of a couple of cases that might need discussion: >> Where, if anyplace, will CVS admin subdirectories get created? >> >> echo "dir" >.cvsignore >> mkdir dir >> cd dir >> touch file >> cvs add file > >"dir/CVS" will be created

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-03-06 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Monday, March 6, 2000 at 15:17:02 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] > Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server > > Although "cvs watch dir" won't actually watch "dir", it does do > something with (ie operate

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-03-06 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Monday, March 6, 2000 at 11:38:41 (-0600), Michael Gersten wrote: ] > Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server > > Make sure that you don't permit 'cvs co mispelling' to create a new > directory when 'cvs co misspel

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-03-06 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Monday, March 6, 2000 at 09:37:33 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] > Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server > > I think either CVS should require CVSROOT/modules or it shouldn't. Your > proposal is an "in between" decisio

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-03-06 Thread Noel L Yap
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 03/06/2000 12:33:39 PM >On 6 Mar 2000, at 9:37, Noel L Yap wrote: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 2000.03.03 16:04:27 >> >[ On Friday, March 3, 2000 at 11:18:50 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] >> >> Subject: Re: removing the need for "

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-03-06 Thread Michael Gersten
> >I did consider the possibility of allowing "cvs co new-dir" to just > >create a new directory regardless of whether there's a modules entry > >with the name "new-dir" yet or not. However I do feel rather strongly > >that the use of the modules feature should be encouraged as much as > >possibl

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-03-06 Thread Mike Little
On 6 Mar 2000, at 9:37, Noel L Yap wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 2000.03.03 16:04:27 > >[ On Friday, March 3, 2000 at 11:18:50 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] > >> Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server > >>[SNIP] > >

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-03-06 Thread Noel L Yap
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 2000.03.03 16:04:27 >[ On Friday, March 3, 2000 at 11:18:50 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] >> Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server >> >> Please help me out here. I'm trying to figure out where our

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-03-04 Thread Noel L Yap
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 2000.03.03 15:52:50 >[ On Friday, March 3, 2000 at 09:19:44 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] >> Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server >> >> >> OK, then, why do you say it's essential. Also, my p

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-03-03 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, March 3, 2000 at 11:18:50 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] > Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server > > Please help me out here. I'm trying to figure out where our disconnect is. > > I'm saying that "cvs w

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-03-03 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, March 3, 2000 at 09:19:44 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] > Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server > > > OK, then, why do you say it's essential. Also, my poll says otherwise. Noone > has responded to my poll saying

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-03-03 Thread Noel L Yap
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 03/03/2000 12:10:11 AM >[ On Thursday, March 2, 2000 at 11:37:10 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] >> Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server >> >> > You are failing to >> >understand the temporal

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-03-03 Thread Noel L Yap
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 03/02/2000 05:03:06 PM >[ On Thursday, March 2, 2000 at 09:51:25 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] >> Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 03/01/2000 09:45:14 PM >> > >

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-03-02 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Thursday, March 2, 2000 at 11:37:10 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] > Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server > > > You are failing to > >understand the temporal nature of CVS (its most central reason for > >being!). This c

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-03-02 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Thursday, March 2, 2000 at 09:51:25 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] > Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 03/01/2000 09:45:14 PM > > > >NO, it must *NOT*! There is a very very essential optim

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-03-02 Thread Noel L Yap
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 03/01/2000 09:43:02 PM >[ On Wednesday, March 1, 2000 at 09:50:06 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] >> Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server >> >> Yes, I know. However, they are created and acted upon by

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-03-02 Thread Noel L Yap
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 03/01/2000 09:45:14 PM >[ On Wednesday, March 1, 2000 at 10:25:26 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] >> Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server >> >> >> The "cvs add empty-hier" must create CVS

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-03-01 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Wednesday, March 1, 2000 at 10:25:26 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] > Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server > > > The "cvs add empty-hier" must create CVS admin subdirectories. The following > "cvs ci" should

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-03-01 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Wednesday, March 1, 2000 at 09:50:06 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] > Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server > > Yes, I know. However, they are created and acted upon by CVS. Our differences > lie in what conditions they should be cr

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-03-01 Thread Noel L Yap
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 02/29/2000 01:08:54 PM >[ On Tuesday, February 29, 2000 at 09:00:01 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] >> Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server >> >> In order for "cvs add empty-hier; cvs ci" to w

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-03-01 Thread Noel L Yap
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 02/29/2000 12:38:16 PM >[ On Tuesday, February 29, 2000 at 08:34:25 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] >> Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server >> >> You're absolutely correct again. If someone has a

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-02-29 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Tuesday, February 29, 2000 at 09:00:01 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] > Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server > > In order for "cvs add empty-hier; cvs ci" to work properly, "cvs ci" will have > to be changed to c

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-02-29 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Tuesday, February 29, 2000 at 08:34:25 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] > Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 02/28/2000 10:01:35 PM > > Hmm... really? Are you really sure you know what kinds of >

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-02-29 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Tuesday, February 29, 2000 at 08:34:25 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] > Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server > > You're absolutely correct again. If someone has a .cvsignore file listing all > their empty directories and do

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-02-29 Thread Noel L Yap
Noel L Yap 02/29/2000 08:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server (Document link not converted) [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 02/28/2000 10:01:35 PM >>[ On Monday, February 28, 2000 at 16:57:30 (-0500),

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-02-29 Thread Noel L Yap
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 02/28/2000 10:01:35 PM >[ On Monday, February 28, 2000 at 16:57:30 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] >> Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server >> >> Again, you're absolutely right. Users shouldn'

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-02-28 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Monday, February 28, 2000 at 16:57:30 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] > Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server > > Again, you're absolutely right. Users shouldn't rely on the optimisation you > propose. They should instead

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-02-28 Thread Noel L Yap
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 02/28/2000 02:32:11 PM >[ On Monday, February 28, 2000 at 09:21:42 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] >> Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server >> >> I wasn't asking for a vote. I was asking for a poll

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-02-28 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Monday, February 28, 2000 at 09:21:42 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] > Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server > > I wasn't asking for a vote. I was asking for a poll to gauge how my opinion > compares with that of the populous.

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-02-28 Thread Noel L Yap
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 02/26/2000 02:23:11 PM >[ On Friday, February 25, 2000 at 20:28:11 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] >> Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server >> >> I want to take a poll with regards to the following issue:

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-02-28 Thread Noel L Yap
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 2000.02.26 13:51:39 >[ On Friday, February 25, 2000 at 20:17:17 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] >> Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server > >I'm not going to respond to any more of your crap. If you want t

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-02-27 Thread Paul Sander
After re-reading the question and my answer, I realized I answered the wrong quesion. However, my argument holds even if the "common" tree is completely empty of source files (e.g. right after a project is created). After doing a checkout, if the CVS admin directories are not created then adds s

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-02-27 Thread Paul Sander
>--- Forwarded mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] >I want to take a poll with regards to the following issue: >"cvs add" must specially handle empty directory hierarchies such that no CVS >admin subdirectories are created within them. (I've tried to be as unbiased >with this statement as I can). >Ple

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-02-26 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, February 25, 2000 at 20:28:11 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] > Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server > > I want to take a poll with regards to the following issue: > > "cvs add" must specially handle empty dir

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-02-26 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, February 25, 2000 at 20:17:17 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] > Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server I'm not going to respond to any more of your crap. If you want to have a sane academic debate about some of the finer deta

RE: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-02-25 Thread Jerry Nairn
> From: Noel L Yap [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 5:28 PM > "cvs add" must specially handle empty directory hierarchies > such that no CVS > admin subdirectories are created within them. neutral. The real issue with me is that, due to the fact that they are not v

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-02-25 Thread Noel L Yap
I want to take a poll with regards to the following issue: "cvs add" must specially handle empty directory hierarchies such that no CVS admin subdirectories are created within them. (I've tried to be as unbiased with this statement as I can). Please answer with "strongly disagree", "disagree",

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-02-25 Thread Noel L Yap
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 2000.02.25 18:16:18 >[ On Thursday, February 24, 2000 at 20:50:24 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] >> Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 2000.02.24 17:17:25 >> >[ On

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-02-25 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Thursday, February 24, 2000 at 20:50:24 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] > Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 2000.02.24 17:17:25 > >[ On Thursday, February 24, 2000 at 13:34:36 (-0500), Noel L Yap

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-02-24 Thread Noel L Yap
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 2000.02.24 17:17:25 >[ On Thursday, February 24, 2000 at 13:34:36 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] >> The manual doesn't mention ACL's >> at all. > >Hmm I wonder what that could mean! Are you implying that noone should use ACLs within the repository? I thought CVS and

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-02-24 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Thursday, February 24, 2000 at 13:34:36 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] > Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server > > Greg, we've gone through this several times. More than that, I'm sure. > The manual doesn't menti

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-02-24 Thread Noel L Yap
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 2000.02.23 23:29:35 >[ On Monday, February 21, 2000 at 09:39:31 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] >> Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server >> >> > Given the current design of CVS there can be *NO* rea

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-02-23 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Monday, February 21, 2000 at 09:39:31 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] > Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server > > > Given the current design of CVS there can be *NO* reasonable argument > > for creating empty directories in the

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-02-23 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Sunday, February 20, 2000 at 23:56:58 (-0500), Garry T. Williams wrote: ] > Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server > > Do I understand the proposal correctly? Should I be doing something to > make sure that CVS ignores my test di

RE: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server... .

2000-02-22 Thread Noel L Yap
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 2000.02.21 11:34:52 >Noel Yap wrote: > >> Beware of premature optimisation. We've already laid out a process that >> relies >> on empty directories being created in the repo. IOW, it's *necessary* to >> allow >> creation of empty directories for this process. It would b

RE: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-02-21 Thread Cameron, Steve
Noel Yap wrote: > Beware of premature optimisation. We've already laid out a process that > relies > on empty directories being created in the repo. IOW, it's *necessary* to > allow > creation of empty directories for this process. It would be a kludge to > create > a dummy file for this purpo

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-02-21 Thread Noel L Yap
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 2000.02.20 21:38:59 >[ On Friday, February 18, 2000 at 16:52:48 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] >> Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server >> >> What I'm getting at is that "cvs add dir" should

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-02-21 Thread Noel L Yap
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 2000.02.20 21:38:59 >[ On Friday, February 18, 2000 at 16:52:48 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] >> Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server >> >> What I'm getting at is that "cvs add dir" should

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-02-20 Thread Garry T. Williams
At 09:38 PM 2/20/00, you wrote: >[ On Friday, February 18, 2000 at 16:52:48 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] > > Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server > > > > What I'm getting at is that "cvs add dir" should create

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-02-20 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, February 18, 2000 at 16:52:48 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] > Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server > > What I'm getting at is that "cvs add dir" should create CVS admin subdirectories > whether or not

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-02-18 Thread Noel L Yap
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 02/17/2000 11:12:14 PM >[ On Thursday, February 17, 2000 at 17:42:28 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] >> Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server >> >> This is fine by me. Again, note that the above doesn&#

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-02-17 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Thursday, February 17, 2000 at 17:42:28 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] > Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server > > This is fine by me. Again, note that the above doesn't mention "cvs add > empty-hier" at all. I'

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-02-17 Thread Noel L Yap
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 02/16/2000 06:04:11 PM >[ On Wednesday, February 16, 2000 at 12:43:31 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] >> Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server >> >> "cvs add dir" *must* operate on the local dire

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-02-16 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Wednesday, February 16, 2000 at 12:43:31 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] > Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server > > "cvs add dir" *must* operate on the local directory in so far as to create CVS > admin subdirectories wit

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-02-16 Thread Noel L Yap
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 02/16/2000 12:50:51 AM >My proposal was an RFC of sorts -- eventually it will come with "working >code" to prove the concept (just as the original release of CVS offered >a way to prove the validity of the copy-modify-merge paradigm). The >final pudding will be in how wid

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-02-16 Thread Noel L Yap
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 02/15/2000 02:19:56 PM >The *standard* meaning of "cvs SOMECOMMAND dir" is to operate on the >files within "dir" (including recursing into any sub-directories and >operating on the files within them too unless you use '-l', sans the >optimisation I discuss in the final par

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-02-15 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Tuesday, February 15, 2000 at 14:51:27 (-0500), John Macdonald wrote: ] > Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server > > CVS manages directories; No, it does not. > it does not just deal with disorganized > files. Well, actua

RE: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-02-15 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Tuesday, February 15, 2000 at 11:38:33 (-0800), Jerry Nairn wrote: ] > Subject: RE: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server.... > > So, after you're done, I will have to create a directory in the repository > so that cvs will accept a file in

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-02-15 Thread John Macdonald
Greg A. Woods wrote : || [ On Tuesday, February 15, 2000 at 10:00:51 (-0500), John Macdonald wrote: ] || > Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server || > || > Hah. So when I "cvs co module" those directories module, module/foo, ||

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-02-15 Thread John Macdonald
Greg A. Woods wrote : || [ On Tuesday, February 15, 2000 at 09:18:18 (-0500), John Macdonald wrote: ] || > Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server || > || > Oh? When is the last time that you had to create a directory in the || > repos

RE: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-02-15 Thread Jerry Nairn
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 9:19 AM > [ On Tuesday, February 15, 2000 at 09:18:18 (-0500), John > Macdonald wrote: ] > > Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to > contact the server >

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-02-15 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Monday, February 14, 2000 at 12:23:12 (-0500), John Macdonald wrote: ] > Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server > > When a user creates a new file on the file system he first does a > mkdir and then edits the file. How does it

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-02-15 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Tuesday, February 15, 2000 at 10:00:51 (-0500), John Macdonald wrote: ] > Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server > > Hah. So when I "cvs co module" those directories module, module/foo, > and module/bar just spring into ex

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-02-15 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Tuesday, February 15, 2000 at 09:18:18 (-0500), John Macdonald wrote: ] > Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server > > Oh? When is the last time that you had to create a directory in the > repository so that it would accept a file

RE: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-02-15 Thread Cameron, Steve
Noel Yap wrote: [...] > Taking another stance, "cvs add dir" will still act on files within dir. > The > difference with my proposition is that "dir/CVS" will be created whether > or not > there're files within the hierarchy. And, "dir" will get created upon > "cvs ci" > whether or not

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-02-15 Thread John Macdonald
Greg A. Woods wrote : || [ On Monday, February 14, 2000 at 12:55:06 (-0500), John Macdonald wrote: ] || > Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server || > || > If CVS checkout only returned a collection of files which the user || > had to p

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-02-15 Thread John Macdonald
Mike Little wrote : || On 14 Feb 00, at 12:23, John Macdonald wrote: || >... and they all ignore all of the files and sub-directories of any || >directory that doesn't contain a CVS sub-dir (i.e. any directory that || >is not part of the cvs-managed work area is totally ignored). They || >quietly

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-02-15 Thread John Macdonald
Greg A. Woods wrote : || [ On Monday, February 14, 2000 at 10:32:58 (-0500), John Macdonald wrote: ] || > Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server || > || > RCS manges only files and not directories. || || Indeed. || || > CVS manages dire

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-02-14 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Monday, February 14, 2000 at 12:55:06 (-0500), John Macdonald wrote: ] > Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server > > If CVS checkout only returned a collection of files which the user > had to put back into the right directory hie

RE: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-02-14 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Monday, February 14, 2000 at 16:01:09 (-0800), Jerry Nairn wrote: ] > Subject: RE: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server.... > > In any case, your proposal is not the ideas that Andrew expressed "fleshed > out." You're adding u

RE: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-02-14 Thread Jerry Nairn
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 10:12 PM > [ On Friday, February 11, 2000 at 14:48:09 (-0800), Jerry > Nairn wrote: ] > > Subject: RE: removing the need for "cvs add file" to > contact the server...

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-02-14 Thread Mike Little
On 14 Feb 00, at 12:23, John Macdonald wrote: >... and they all ignore all of the files and sub-directories of any >directory that doesn't contain a CVS sub-dir (i.e. any directory that >is not part of the cvs-managed work area is totally ignored). They >quietly return from such a directory witho

RE: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-02-14 Thread Jerry Nairn
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 10:07 PM > arguing. I give up. If you don't like my version of "cvs add" then > don't use it. Happy CVSing. Whether I like it or not was not an object of contention. You want "cvs add" to work in a way that

RE: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-02-14 Thread Jerry Nairn
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 10:02 PM > Then the history again: > Andrew Nicholson proposed a very simple scheme that allows > 'cvs add' to > just do its thing in the same way *ALL* other CVS commands do > so that it > doesn't have to r

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-02-14 Thread Noel L Yap
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 02/12/2000 01:02:01 AM >[ On Friday, February 11, 2000 at 17:38:59 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] >> Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server >> >> This has absolutely nothing to do with the original question

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-02-14 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Monday, February 14, 2000 at 10:32:58 (-0500), John Macdonald wrote: ] > Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server > > RCS manges only files and not directories. Indeed. > CVS manages directory trees containing files. While t

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-02-14 Thread John Macdonald
Tobias Weingartner wrote : || On Monday, February 14, John Macdonald wrote: || > || Because CVS manages only files, not directories. Directories control || > || where CVS does its work, but that's it. CVS doesn't operate on || > || directories, but rather within them. || > || || > || CVS is a f

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-02-14 Thread John Macdonald
Greg A. Woods wrote : || [ On Friday, February 11, 2000 at 17:38:59 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] || > Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server || > || > This has absolutely nothing to do with the original question, "How has/will || > a

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-02-14 Thread Tobias Weingartner
On Monday, February 14, John Macdonald wrote: > || Because CVS manages only files, not directories. Directories control > || where CVS does its work, but that's it. CVS doesn't operate on > || directories, but rather within them. > || > || CVS is a front-end to RCS (though these days it's stric

Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server....

2000-02-14 Thread John Macdonald
Greg A. Woods wrote : || [ On Friday, February 11, 2000 at 11:44:38 (-0500), John Macdonald wrote: ] || > Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server || > || > Using "cvs add dir" to push the envelope of the cvs-managed area is a ||