reserved checkout

2002-01-31 Thread Matthias Kienle
Hello, I am a beginner with reserved checkout. I found several helpentries on the cvshome page and want test a method using the rcslock file. I added a line in the commitinfo file like the follow: ALL /usr/lib/cvs/contrib/rcslock If user A locks and edit a file out of the repository

Reserved checkout

2000-08-04 Thread Guilhem BONNEFILLE
Hi, I want to use CVS in a reserved checkout model with centralised access to repository. It's to say : - reserved checkout : developpers need to lock files before act ; - centralised access : developpers only have read acces to repository. They need to send their modified files

Re: reserved checkout

2002-01-31 Thread Noel Yap
communication. There are patches available at SourceForge under project RCVS that'll extend the "cvs edit" command to help with communication. Take a look at them. Noel --- Matthias Kienle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > I am a beginner with reserved checkout. I

Re: reserved checkout

2002-01-31 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Thursday, January 31, 2002 at 10:34:52 (+0100), Matthias Kienle wrote: ] > Subject: reserved checkout > > What do I wrong? Don't use reserved checkouts with CVS -- CVS is the "Concurrent Versions System"! --

Re: reserved checkout

2002-02-01 Thread Matthias Kienle
> [ On Thursday, January 31, 2002 at 10:34:52 (+0100), Matthias Kienle > wrote: ] > > Subject: reserved checkout > > > > What do I wrong? > > Don't use reserved checkouts with CVS -- CVS is the "Concurrent Versions > System"! > I know cvs is

Re: reserved checkout

2002-02-01 Thread Noel Yap
thers. 4. Developers proceed only if there's no danger of future merges. Note that this won't alleviate the problem of concurrent development through branches. Noel --- Matthias Kienle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [ On Thursday, January 31, 2002 at 10:34:52 > (+0100), Matthia

Re: reserved checkout

2002-02-01 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, February 1, 2002 at 09:03:55 (+0100), Matthias Kienle wrote: ] > Subject: Re: reserved checkout > > I am a linuxer and I would hate it to explain my manager that cvs does not > support reserved checkouts for binary files. I control all web pages, server > configu

RE: reserved checkout

2002-02-01 Thread EXT-Corcoran, David
Matthias Kienle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 12:04 AM > To: Greg A. Woods > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: reserved checkout > > > > [ On Thursday, January 31, 2002 at 10:34:52 (+0100), Matthias Kienle > > wrote: ] > > >

RE: reserved checkout

2002-02-01 Thread Noel Yap
~ President Franklin Delano Roosevelt, November 23, > 1933 in a letter to > Colonel Edward Mandell House > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Matthias Kienle > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 12:04 AM > > To: Greg A. Woods

RE: reserved checkout

2002-02-01 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, February 1, 2002 at 11:10:30 (-0800), EXT-Corcoran, David wrote: ] > Subject: RE: reserved checkout > > pardon my abject ignorance on all of this... > > But could you use uuencode and uudecode? The deltas may be *HUGE* but it > might be worth a lookit. Not only w

Re: reserved checkout

2002-02-08 Thread Matthias Kienle
nt through branches. > > Noel > --- Matthias Kienle > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > [ On Thursday, January 31, 2002 at 10:34:52 > > (+0100), Matthias Kienle > > > wrote: ] > > > > Subject: reserved checkout > > > > > > > >

Re: reserved checkout

2002-02-08 Thread Noel Yap
concurrent development through branches. > > > > Noel > > --- Matthias Kienle > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > [ On Thursday, January 31, 2002 at 10:34:52 > > > (+0100), Matthias Kienle > > > > wrote: ] > > > > > Subject: re

Re: Reserved checkout

2000-08-04 Thread Tobias Weingartner
On Friday, August 4, Guilhem BONNEFILLE wrote: > > I want to use CVS in a reserved checkout model with centralised access > to repository. It's to say : > - reserved checkout : developpers need to lock files before act ; > - centralised access : developpers only have read

Re: Reserved checkout

2000-08-04 Thread Noel L Yap
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: (bcc: Noel L Yap) Subject: Reserved checkout Hi, I want to use CVS in a reserved checkout model with centralised access to repository. It's to say : - reserved checkout : developpers need to lock files before act ; - centralised access : developpers only have

Re: Reserved checkout

2000-08-04 Thread David Thornley
Guilhem BONNEFILLE wrote: > > Hi, > > I want to use CVS in a reserved checkout model with centralised access > to repository. It's to say : > - reserved checkout : developpers need to lock files before act ; The best you're going to do is cvs watch and cvs edit,

Re: Reserved checkout

2000-08-04 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, August 4, 2000 at 18:10:20 (+0200), Guilhem BONNEFILLE wrote: ] > Subject: Reserved checkout > > - Is there a configuration tool which have a such model ? > - Url for more information ??? Since there are many ways to implement "centralised access", there can

Really a reserved checkout?

2003-02-28 Thread Arun Sundar
Folks, I am new to CVS. CVS gives the option of "reserved checkouts". www.wincvs.org offers a GUI where we have the option of 1.reserved edit 2.forced edit But the problem is even it is reserved edit/forced edit then the other person logs in alters the readonly file at the client and then commit

CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-10 Thread Andrew
Hello all, Has anyone setup reserved checkout in CVS (ver 1.11.1p1) in Unix (Solaris)? Or is there any documentation on this other than the manual that comes with the source code? If there is any info., please email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Many thanks in advance Andrew

Re: Really a reserved checkout?

2003-02-28 Thread Larry Jones
Arun Sundar writes: > > Is this really possible in CVS. If I edit a file, UNTIL > I COMMIT it no one should be able to commit that file. CVS is the *Concurrent* Versions System. If that's not what you want, you're using the wrong tool. -Larry Jones Everybody's a slave to routine. -- Calvin

Re: Really a reserved checkout?

2003-02-28 Thread Mark Cooper
yone could 'miss' it. Perhaps I'm just too intolerant. Mark Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry Jones) Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 28/02/2003 15:33 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arun Sundar) cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Rea

RE: Really a reserved checkout?

2003-02-28 Thread Zieg, Mark
> It leads me to wonder if there is something missing in the documentation > or the tool description from the (various) web site(s) that is somehow > preventing people from understanding what cvs is all about, although I > can't for the life of me see how anyone could 'miss' it. I wrote this fo

Re: Really a reserved checkout?

2003-02-28 Thread Donald Sharp
w anyone could 'miss' it. > > Perhaps I'm just too intolerant. > > Mark Cooper > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry Jones) > Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 28/02/2003 15:33 > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arun Sundar) >

Re: Really a reserved checkout?

2003-02-28 Thread Brandon Craig Rhodes
Donald Sharp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The cvs documentation is obtuse and hard to read. It might be more useful to say that the documentation is designed as a reference - it will tell you everything there is to know about one aspect of CVS, then progress to another. This is useful if you al

Re: Really a reserved checkout?

2003-02-28 Thread Ross Patterson
On Friday 28 February 2003 12:55 pm, Brandon Craig Rhodes wrote: > Donald Sharp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > The cvs documentation is obtuse and hard to read. > > It might be more useful to say that the documentation is designed as a > reference - it will tell you everything there is to know abo

Re: Really a reserved checkout?

2003-02-28 Thread Larry Jones
Ross Patterson writes: > > But, for example, CVS's peculiar vulnerability to NFS > errors isn't touched on at all, despite it being a critical issue. That's a good point, although CVS isn't alone -- I first ran encountered the problem in relation to my company's CAD/CAM/CAE software, which is ho

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-18 Thread Bryon Lape
How does one use the reserved locks? Jerzy Kaczorowski wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Paul Sander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > There's Noel Yap's patches on SourceForge, which apply to a down-rev > release > > of CVS. I believe that others have implemented it as well, but only > p

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-18 Thread yap_noel
I sent out instructions within the several threads about this. I guess you missed it 'cos you were too busy ranting. Please check the archives. Noel How does one use the reserved locks? Jerzy Kaczorowski wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Paul Sander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > T

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-29 Thread Greg Cooper
David Masterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > >>>>> Andrew writes: > > > Has anyone setup reserved checkout in CVS (ver 1.11.1p1) in Unix > > (Solaris)? Or is there any documentation on this other than t

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-29 Thread Kaz Kylheku
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Greg Cooper wrote: >David Masterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... >> >>>>> Andrew writes: >> >> > Has anyone setup reserved checkout in CVS (ver 1.11.1p1) in Unix

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-29 Thread David Gravereaux
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kaz Kylheku) wrote: >Tell the manager to shed his or her superstitions, and work with >the facts. The facts are: > >- Concurrent development works just fine. >- Your team already likes it. >- Strict locking does not prevent concurrency, it only reduces > it to a coarse granula

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-29 Thread Kathryn Huxtable
;[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > >> >>>>> Andrew writes: > >> > >> > Has anyone setup reserved checkout in CVS (ver 1.11.1p1) in Unix > >> > (Solaris)? Or is there any documentation on this other than the > >> > manual that comes with the sou

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-30 Thread yap_noel
MAIL PROTECTED]>... > >>>>> Andrew writes: > > > Has anyone setup reserved checkout in CVS (ver 1.11.1p1) in Unix > > (Solaris)? Or is there any documentation on this other than the > > manual that comes with the source code? > > Given the CVS model of unreserved c

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-30 Thread yap_noel
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kaz Kylheku) wrote: > >>Tell the manager to shed his or her superstitions, and work with >>the facts. The facts are: >> >>- Concurrent development works just fine. >>- Your team already likes it. >>- Strict locking does not prevent concurrency, it only reduces >> it to a co

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-30 Thread David Masterson
> Kaz Kylheku writes: [...with respect to CVS...] > Tell the manager to shed his or her superstitions, and work with the > facts. The facts are: > - Concurrent development works just fine. > - Your team already likes it. > - Strict locking does not prevent concurrency, it only reduces > i

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-30 Thread yap_noel
A huge portion of Streamed Lines deals with branches. Now, consider that unreserved checkouts are sort of like (if not exactly) virtual branches... IOW, if the manager is _really_ against concurrent development, then he/she should be against any version control tool that allows branches as well

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-10 Thread Matthias Kranz
On Wed, Oct 10, 2001 at 01:18:55AM -0700, Andrew wrote: > Has anyone setup reserved checkout in CVS (ver 1.11.1p1) in Unix > (Solaris)? Or is there any documentation on this other than the manual > that comes with the source code? Try http://cvsbook.red-bean.com/ for a very good book

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-10 Thread yap_noel
other parties to minimize the chances of conflicts. 3. If the chances of conflicts is minimal or the others cannot be contacted, "cvs edit -f" the files. 4. If one receives notification about an as-yet-unknown edit, contact the editor to help minimize the chances of conflicts. Noel Hello all

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-10 Thread David Masterson
>>>>> Andrew writes: > Has anyone setup reserved checkout in CVS (ver 1.11.1p1) in Unix > (Solaris)? Or is there any documentation on this other than the > manual that comes with the source code? Given the CVS model of unreserved checkouts, why do you need reserved c

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-11 Thread Bryon Lape
t; minimize the chances of conflicts. > 3. If the chances of conflicts is minimal or the others cannot be > contacted, "cvs edit -f" the files. > 4. If one receives notification about an as-yet-unknown edit, contact the > editor to help minimize the chances of conflicts. > >

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-11 Thread Bryon Lape
contacted, "cvs edit -f" the files. > 4. If one receives notification about an as-yet-unknown edit, contact the > editor to help minimize the chances of conflicts. > > Noel > > Hello all, > > Has anyone setup reserved checkout in CVS (ver 1.11.1p1) in Unix > (Solar

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-11 Thread Paul Sander
If your question really is: "Is anyone modifying CVS to support locking?" Then I believe the answer is "yes". If your question really is: "Is anyone making locking a mainstream feature of CVS?" Then I believe the answer is "no". Despite the outcry to have this capability, no one with commit a

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-11 Thread yap_noel
. > 4. If one receives notification about an as-yet-unknown edit, contact the > editor to help minimize the chances of conflicts. > > Noel > > Hello all, > > Has anyone setup reserved checkout in CVS (ver 1.11.1p1) in Unix > (Solaris)? Or is there any documentatio

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-11 Thread Bryon Lape
Paul Sander wrote: > If your question really is: "Is anyone modifying CVS to support locking?" > Then I believe the answer is "yes". Who? And where may I get it? > > If your question really is: "Is anyone making locking a mainstream feature > of CVS?" Then I believe the answer is "no". sha

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-11 Thread Bryon Lape
> 2. If the files are being edited by others, contact the other parties to > > minimize the chances of conflicts. > > 3. If the chances of conflicts is minimal or the others cannot be > > contacted, "cvs edit -f" the files. > > 4. If one receives notification about

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-11 Thread yap_noel
>> If your question really is: "Is anyone making locking a mainstream feature >> of CVS?" Then I believe the answer is "no". > >shame I think getting real reserved locks into CVS is impossible without chainging CVS so much as to make it not CVS anymore. Of course, you're welcome to try. Noe

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-11 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, October 12, 2001 at 02:17:41 (GMT), Bryon Lape wrote: ] > Subject: Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout > > Paul Sander wrote: > > > If your question really is: "Is anyone making locking a mainstream feature > > of CVS?" Then I believe the answer is

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-11 Thread Paul Sander
There's Noel Yap's patches on SourceForge, which apply to a down-rev release of CVS. I believe that others have implemented it as well, but only privately in their own shops. Maybe they don't advertise them for fear of being blasted by Greg. --- Forwarded mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Paul Sande

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-11 Thread Bryon Lape
*** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 11/10/2001 at 23:03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >Read Berliner's whole paper. Understand what it means to "force" >developers to use a "parallel" development paradigm and learn what the >benefits are. I understand it, there aren't any. ---

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-11 Thread Bryon Lape
Wo? Ich kann nicht es gefunden. Paul Sander wrote: > There's Noel Yap's patches on SourceForge, which apply to a down-rev release > of CVS. I believe that others have implemented it as well, but only privately > in their own shops. Maybe they don't advertise them for fear of being blasted > b

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-11 Thread Bryon Lape
"Greg A. Woods" wrote: > Read Berliner's whole paper. Understand what it means to "force" > developers to use a "parallel" development paradigm and learn what the > benefits are. The benefits add up to zero. Now, if it did method locking, that would be helpful, protective AND productive. With

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-11 Thread Kaz Kylheku
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bryon Lape wrote: >"Greg A. Woods" wrote: > >> Read Berliner's whole paper. Understand what it means to "force" >> developers to use a "parallel" development paradigm and learn what the >> benefits are. > >The benefits add up to zero. Now, if it did method locking

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-11 Thread Paul Sander
Ich funde es bei http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=422733&group_id=4680&atid=304680 >--- Forwarded mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Wo? Ich kann nicht es gefunden. >Paul Sander wrote: >> There's Noel Yap's patches on SourceForge, which apply to a down-rev release >> of CVS

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Bryon Lape
Kaz Kylheku wrote: > CVS doesn't require hand merging. When you perform a cvs update > operation, then new changes in the repository are automatically > incorporated into your working copy. Only when a conflict arises do > you have to do resolution by hand. Conflicts tend to occur rarely, and >

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Bryon Lape
Netscape tries and tries, but nothing is ever returned by this link. Paul Sander wrote: Ich funde es bei http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=422733&group_id=4680&atid=304680 >--- Forwarded mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Wo?  Ich kann nicht es gefunden. >Paul Sander wrote: >> Th

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread yap_noel
It sounds like the software your group is maintaining needs factoring to decrease the likelihood that several developers are modifying the same method. It also sounds like your group can use some communication. Noel "Greg A. Woods" wrote: > Read Berliner's whole paper. Understand what it mea

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Mark
--- Bryon Lape <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kaz Kylheku wrote: > > > CVS doesn't require hand merging. When you perform a cvs update > > operation, then new changes in the repository are automatically > > incorporated into your working copy. Only when a conflict arises do > > you have to do res

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread yap_noel
If you've really made up your mind then don't use CVS. But think about this first: Why are you the only group I know who has tried parallel development and didn't like it? Noel *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 11/10/2001 at 23:03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >Read Berliner's whole

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread yap_noel
>> Conflicts are extremely easy to produce and may not be easily resolved. > >The issue it seems you are having is that on a regular basis, two or more >developers making large abouts of unrelated changes to same sections of code. >This problem cannot be solved by locking checkouts, or by any ch

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread yap_noel
You need to ask yourself why your group is experiencing so many conflicts while so many other groups (thousands?) are not. Noel Kaz Kylheku wrote: > CVS doesn't require hand merging. When you perform a cvs update > operation, then new changes in the repository are automatically > incorporated

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread yap_noel
I was able to use Netscape get to the patches. Exactly what are you doing? Noel Netscape tries and tries, but nothing is ever returned by this link. Paul Sander wrote: Ich funde es bei http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=422733&group_id=4680&atid=304680

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Mark A. Flacy
Your reply, as written, contradicts itself. ___ Info-cvs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-cvs

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Mark A. Flacy
Conflicts are easy to produce *when you have multiple developers working on the same segments of code*. If you are doing a lot of that without any coordination between the developers, you are going to have a lot of problems. Period. ___ Info-cvs mai

RE: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Thornley, David
> -Original Message- > From: Bryon Lape [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > The benefits add up to zero. Now, if it did method locking, > that would be helpful, > protective AND productive. Without some sort of locking, > having developers waste > time with doing merging by hand is count

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, October 12, 2001 at 00:06:34 (-0400), Bryon Lape wrote: ] > Subject: Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout > > *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** > > On 11/10/2001 at 23:03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > >Read Berliner's whole paper.

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, October 12, 2001 at 04:05:42 (GMT), Bryon Lape wrote: ] > Subject: Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout > > The benefits add up to zero. Now, if it did method locking, that would be helpful, > protective AND productive. Without some sort of locking, having developers waste

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, October 12, 2001 at 11:22:37 (GMT), Bryon Lape wrote: ] > Subject: Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout > > Conflicts are extremely easy to produce and may not be easily resolved. Hmmm. and how is this different from any other change control process? In non-parallel

RE: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, October 12, 2001 at 09:35:58 (-0500), Thornley, David wrote: ] > Subject: RE: CVS - setup reserved checkout > > > What do you mean by "method locking"? Locking individual parts > of a file? It wouldn't do you any good. Well, not with CVS anywa

RE: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Gianni Mariani
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Greg A. Woods Sent: Friday, October 12, 2001 9:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: CVS-II Discussion Mailing List Subject: Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout [ On Friday, October 12, 2001 at 00:06:34 (-0400), Bryon Lape wrote: ] >

RE: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, October 12, 2001 at 09:51:54 (-0700), Gianni Mariani wrote: ] > Subject: RE: CVS - setup reserved checkout > > There is a case where Greg would agree with you and that's in the case of > binary files or files that can't be merged automagically - like jpegs or &

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Kaz Kylheku
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Greg A. Woods wrote: >Even locking without lock contention won't solve all conflict >scenarios. Commit wars are possible with any change control process. Even if you lock an entire repository, you can still get conflicts; conflicts outside of the system. Suppose

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Kaz Kylheku
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bryon Lape wrote: >Kaz Kylheku wrote: > >> CVS doesn't require hand merging. When you perform a cvs update >> operation, then new changes in the repository are automatically >> incorporated into your working copy. Only when a conflict arises do >> you have to do re

RE: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Thornley, David
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, October 12, 2001 11:46 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: CVS - setup reserved checkout > > > [ On Friday, October 12, 2001 at 09:35:58 (-0500), Thornley, > Dav

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Paul Sander
I got there by going to http://sourceforge.net/ and typing "rcvs" in the search field. That produced a table of about a dozen patches, one of which had a suitable one-description. I clicked on that, then on the "download" button. >--- Forwarded mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Netscape tries and t

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Kaz Kylheku
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >You need to ask yourself why your group is experiencing so many conflicts >while so many other groups (thousands?) are not. Because there is no group, and there are no conflicts. This is just another Chicken Little yelling that the sky

RE: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Paul Sander
One would hope that one's shop is not using the same branch for both maintenance and new features. That kind of thing is best done on separate branches (where the two schedules don't interfere with each other). The bug fix is later merged into the new development when it's appropriate to do so.

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Paul Sander
>--- Forwarded mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[ On Friday, October 12, 2001 at 04:05:42 (GMT), Bryon Lape wrote: ] >> Subject: Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout >> >> The benefits add up to zero. Now, if it did method locking, that would be helpful, >> protective

RE: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Paul Sander
>--- Forwarded mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] >3 developers (A,B,C) need to fix file X. >A is making some major changes, adding lots of new functionality. >B and C need to make a minor tweak to the file. >In a CVS model: >B anc C can be done and outa there in minutes and essentially forget about >

RE: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Paul Sander
TED] >[ On Friday, October 12, 2001 at 09:35:58 (-0500), Thornley, David wrote: ] >> Subject: RE: CVS - setup reserved checkout >> >> >> What do you mean by "method locking"? Locking individual parts >> of a file? It wouldn't do you any good. >W

RE: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Thornley, David
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, October 12, 2001 1:34 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: CVS - setup reserved checkout > > > One would hope that one's shop is not u

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Kaz Kylheku
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Paul Sander wrote: >Under those conditions, almost any version control tool provides the >necessary merge tool. Your inexperience is showing. There are version control tools in *broad* use that have extremely support for branching and merging. Exhibit A: Visual Sou

RE: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, October 12, 2001 at 15:45:15 (-0500), Thornley, David wrote: ] > Subject: RE: CVS - setup reserved checkout > > The last job I had not involving the use of CVS was with SCCS, > and we didn't have branches. This did make shipping bug-fixed > stuff to customers int

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Bryon Lape
Wrong. Kaz Kylheku wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >You need to ask yourself why your group is experiencing so many conflicts > >while so many other groups (thousands?) are not. > > Because there is no group, and there are no conflicts. This is just > a

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Bryon Lape
I simply clicked on the link you supplied.  I even copied it to IE just to make sure Nutscraper wasn't having a problem. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was able to use Netscape get to the patches.  Exactly what are you doing? Noel Netscape tries and tries, but nothing is ever returned by this link. P

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-15 Thread yap_noel
Because there is no group, and there are no conflicts. This is just another Chicken Little yelling that the sky is falling. Actually a step beneath Chicken Little, because something actually did fall on Chicken Little's head, it wasn't just pure imagination. :) Yes, I was giving him the benefi

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-15 Thread yap_noel
>In the end, productivity is probably the same in either method. Developers >spend a lot of time getting coffee every day while their automatic merges >complete, or they slave away for hours resolving conflicts once every couple >of weeks. But perception is everything here; letting the automati

RE: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-15 Thread yap_noel
2, 2001 at 09:35:58 (-0500), Thornley, David wrote: ] >> Subject: RE: CVS - setup reserved checkout >> >> >> What do you mean by "method locking"? Locking individual parts >> of a file? It wouldn't do you any good. >Well, not with CVS anyway! :-)

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-15 Thread yap_noel
OK, then exactly what are you expecting from the link? Maybe SourceForge was down when you tried it? Have you tried it again? Have you tried following the step-by-step instructions I sent out? Noel I simply clicked on the link you supplied. I even copied it to IE just to make sure Nutscrape

RE: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-15 Thread Thornley, David
> -Original Message- > From: Bryon Lape [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Wrong. > > Kaz Kylheku wrote: > > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > >You need to ask yourself why your group is experiencing so > many conflicts > > >while so many other grou

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-16 Thread Jerzy Kaczorowski
- Original Message - From: "Paul Sander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > There's Noel Yap's patches on SourceForge, which apply to a down-rev release > of CVS. I believe that others have implemented it as well, but only privately > in their own shops. Maybe they don't advertise them for fear of b

Reserved vs. non-reserved checkout

2000-03-31 Thread Bill Lee
ted by CVS. And to see if those advantages are really appropriate for the closed development projects.   I have worked in closed environments for a long time using reserved checkout systems such as MKS, PVCS, and SourceSafe. In this environment, where many people may be working on the same se

Admin command and reserved checkout

2000-11-27 Thread Bronsard, Ghislaine (Ghislaine)
Hello, I want to use the strict reserved checkout for a module. I see that it can be done by Using the "cvs admin -l" command with "rev" indication. I don't want to lock only a revision, I want to lock an entire module. So how can I specify that I want to have sin

Re: Reserved vs. non-reserved checkout

2000-03-31 Thread adam
:) On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, Bill Lee wrote: > I have worked in closed environments for a long time using reserved checkout > systems such as MKS, PVCS, and SourceSafe. Ditto, although my experience is only with CVS and (shudder) SS. > In this environment, where many > people may be worki

Re: Reserved vs. non-reserved checkout

2000-03-31 Thread Paul Sander
>--- Forwarded mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] >On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, Bill Lee wrote: >> I have worked in closed environments for a long time using reserved checkout >> systems such as MKS, PVCS, and SourceSafe. >Ditto, although my experience is only with CVS and (shu

Re: Reserved vs. non-reserved checkout

2000-04-03 Thread Noel L Yap
and "cvs edit -f" should work). Noel Enc (See attached file: edit-c.diff) [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 2000.03.31 19:23:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: (bcc: Noel L Yap) Subject: Reserved vs. non-reserved checkout I'm sure that this topic has been covered here before, so if someone wa

RE: Reserved vs. non-reserved checkout

2000-04-03 Thread Hill, Ruth Ann
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How to set CVS be the reserved checkout mode only?

2002-10-23 Thread LIU,SHI-ZHOU (HP-China,ex2)
Hi there, CVS server version:1.11.2 on HP-UX 11i CVS client: Win CVS 1.3.8.1 on Win2K How to set CVS be the reserved checkout mode only? I mean that if one checkout a file and edit it, before he/she commit it, other can't edit the file. Now, we use the rcslock.pl file according to the

Re: How to set CVS be the reserved checkout mode only?

2002-10-24 Thread Noel Yap
--- "LIU,SHI-ZHOU (HP-China,ex2)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > CVS server version:1.11.2 on HP-UX 11i > CVS client: Win CVS 1.3.8.1 on Win2K I'd upgrade the client to be able to take advantage of some newer commands (eg "cvs edit"). > How to set CVS be th

Re: How to set CVS be the reserved checkout mode only?

2002-10-24 Thread Kaz Kylheku
"LIU,SHI-ZHOU (HP-China,ex2)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > Hi there, > > CVS server version:1.11.2 on HP-UX 11i > CVS client: Win CVS 1.3.8.1 on Win2K > > How to set CVS be the reserved checkout mode only? I mean t