Re: Thoughts on the age-old cyradm thingie

2002-11-21 Thread Luca Olivetti
Jay Levitt wrote: Interesting. That patch just installs Shell.pm into vendor_perl instead of site_perl. But when I ran the stock Cyrus configure on MDK 9.0, I had no problem with it running in site_perl; the problem I had was just that site_perl is not actually under PREFIX, and Makefile.PL

Re: OT LVM Snapshot for backups (was: Best way to backup cyrus syste)

2002-11-21 Thread Simon Matter
Jared Watkins schrieb: I would think you could use LVM the linux volume manager along with it's snapshot feature.. and then any sort of backup program you want. I'm not using this method yet... but I will be soon... is anyone else out there running LVM or some other volume manager under

Re: Thoughts on the age-old cyradm thingie

2002-11-21 Thread Simon Matter
Unfortunately, I don't remember exactly what my problems were on RedHat. And I didn't really understand how this MakeMaker thing works. What I remember is that the biggest problem comes from the fact that Cyrus perl doesn't want to build for, say /usr/, and install to

ctl_cyrusdb is very long

2002-11-21 Thread eric.doutreleau
Hi I'm using cyrus 2.1.5 on a redhat linux 7.3 machine. I have a problem with ctl_cyrusdb I had a crash with my server and when i reboot ctl_cyrusdb is taking too much time. Indeed it s still running for 20 hours. In my /var/lib/imap/db directory i have the following files -rw---1 cyrus

Re: Compiling ACAP

2002-11-21 Thread Martin Ziegler
Just compiled IMSP and it's working fine. --On Mittwoch, 20. November 2002 16:07 +0100 Benjamin Zeiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i think the latest acap version doesn't support sasl2. i wanted to try acap as well since i liked the idea very much. however, the server development has practically

Re: Compiling ACAP

2002-11-21 Thread Mathieu Arnold
--Le jeudi 21 novembre 2002 09:19 +0100, -- Martin Ziegler [EMAIL PROTECTED] écrivait avec ses petits doigts : Just compiled IMSP and it's working fine. is ISMP working with sasl 2 ? -- Mathieu Arnold

question about quota on cyrus

2002-11-21 Thread Brasseur Valéry
The cyrus quota for now is only on folder size. would it be difficult to implement a quota on the number of message in the folder ? thanks for your answer valery

Re: Configuration Tools.

2002-11-21 Thread Ian McDonald
cyradm, I think. - Original Message - From: Joshua Schmidlkofer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 12:14 AM Subject: Configuration Tools. What is the preferred method of managing Cyrus? js

Re: Compiling ACAP

2002-11-21 Thread Rob Siemborski
On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Mathieu Arnold wrote: -- Martin Ziegler [EMAIL PROTECTED] écrivait avec ses petits doigts : Just compiled IMSP and it's working fine. is ISMP working with sasl 2 ? No. I have a totally untested patch lying around though. (as in, I'm not even sure if it compiles).

Re: Compiling ACAP

2002-11-21 Thread Mathieu Arnold
--Le jeudi 21 novembre 2002 09:02 -0500, -- Rob Siemborski [EMAIL PROTECTED] écrivait avec ses petits doigts : On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Mathieu Arnold wrote: -- Martin Ziegler [EMAIL PROTECTED] écrivait avec ses petits doigts : Just compiled IMSP and it's working fine. is ISMP working

Re: Compiling ACAP

2002-11-21 Thread Martin Ziegler
Since i have both SASL versions installed i'm not sure if it compiles with version 2. Martin --On Donnerstag, 21. November 2002 09:02 -0500 Rob Siemborski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Mathieu Arnold wrote: -- Martin Ziegler [EMAIL PROTECTED] écrivait avec ses petits

Re: How to make cyrus not change non US-ASCII characters to X

2002-11-21 Thread Christian Schulte
Sergey Mukhin wrote: A == Alessandro Oliveira [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 09:30:31 -0200 A To: info-cyrus [EMAIL PROTECTED] A Hi, A I'd like to know if there is a way to avoid this cyrus behavior, my A users are getting very angry with it. A Thanks for any

Problems with some MIME messages (cyrus-imapd-2.1.9)

2002-11-21 Thread Ralf Haferkamp
Hi, we encountered problems with some multipart MIME mails. It seems, that cyrus-imapd fails to correctly seperate the different parts of mail under certain circumstances. This e.g. the case if one MIME part of the mail contains a multipart/alternative part, that has a boundary which contains the

Re: How to make cyrus not change non US-ASCII characters to X

2002-11-21 Thread Alessandro Oliveira
Is there any possibility to put this as an autoconf option? maybe something like: ./configure --enable-strict-headers | --disable-strict-headers would do the trick, or even better, a runtime configuration option !!! what are the REAL consequences of having 8bit characters in the Subject header

Re: How to make cyrus not change non US-ASCII characters to X

2002-11-21 Thread Christian Schulte
Alessandro Oliveira wrote: Is there any possibility to put this as an autoconf option? maybe something like: ./configure --enable-strict-headers | --disable-strict-headers would do the trick, or even better, a runtime configuration option !!! what are the REAL consequences of having 8bit

Re: OT LVM Snapshot for backups (was: Best way to backup cyrus syste)

2002-11-21 Thread Christian Schulte
Jared Watkins wrote: I would think you could use LVM the linux volume manager along with it's snapshot feature.. and then any sort of backup program you want. I'm not using this method yet... but I will be soon... is anyone else out there running LVM or some other volume manager under linux

Re: How to make cyrus not change non US-ASCII characters to X

2002-11-21 Thread Alessandro Oliveira
Maybe the best solution would be a filter to change the message body encoding using quoted-printable instead of putting X everywhere, and change headers to also use the appropriate encoding. What do you think about this ? Christian Schulte escreveu: Is there any possibility to put this as an

Re: Please, what are the groups? Re: mech=login, auth=sasldb, groups=???

2002-11-21 Thread Mika Iisakkila
Ian McDonald wrote: Please, what are the groups, if not using Unix auth? AFAIK you'd have to use Kerberos. If you have --with-auth=unix, the group lookups go to the normal getpwnam()/getgrnam() functions, which finally consult anything your name service switch is configured to do.

Re: OT LVM Snapshot for backups (was: Best way to backup cyrus syste)

2002-11-21 Thread Brian
Christian Schulte said: I have had many many troubles with the linux LVM itself. I would rather suggest using a well configured linux softare raid. This is much more stable than LVM! I lost 250GB because of LVM and did not have a backup. With software raid on linux this would not have

Re: Thoughts on the age-old cyradm thingie

2002-11-21 Thread Jay Levitt
- Original Message - From: Luca Olivetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jay Levitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Simon Matter [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 3:07 AM Subject: Re: Thoughts on the age-old cyradm thingie Jay Levitt wrote: Interesting. That patch

Re: Configuration Tools.

2002-11-21 Thread Christian Schulte
Joshua Schmidlkofer wrote: What is the preferred method of managing Cyrus? js Have a look at the websieve sourceforge project! Its a perl based cgi application for managing cyrus sieve and imap!

Re: How to make cyrus not change non US-ASCII characters to X

2002-11-21 Thread Christian Schulte
Alessandro Oliveira wrote: Maybe the best solution would be a filter to change the message body encoding using quoted-printable instead of putting X everywhere, and change headers to also use the appropriate encoding. What do you think about this ? Christian Schulte escreveu: Is there any

Re: OT LVM Snapshot for backups (was: Best way to backup cyrus syste)

2002-11-21 Thread Paul M Fleming
I've been using software RAID under Linux w/ Cyrus for almost 5 years.. My recommendation -- don't. We're switching to hardware RAID 5. It costs -- a lot for good hardware, but in the end it is worth it. Most of my problems w/ the machines has been related to the software raid. Brian wrote:

Re: OT LVM Snapshot for backups (was: Best way to backup cyrus syste)

2002-11-21 Thread Jared Watkins
Christian Schulte wrote: Jared Watkins wrote: I would think you could use LVM the linux volume manager along with it's snapshot feature.. and then any sort of backup program you want. I'm not using this method yet... but I will be soon... is anyone else out there running LVM or some other

Re: Compiling ACAP

2002-11-21 Thread Martin Ziegler
I would also like to test the patch...if it's possible. --On Donnerstag, 21. November 2002 15:08 +0100 Mathieu Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --Le jeudi 21 novembre 2002 09:02 -0500, -- Rob Siemborski [EMAIL PROTECTED] écrivait avec ses petits doigts : On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Mathieu Arnold

Re: Best way to backup cyrus system

2002-11-21 Thread Alessandro Oliveira
I'm new to cyrus, just testing it for 2 weeks and getting very good reviews from our users. I think cyrus it is a very powerful piece of software, in addition it does a wonderful job with a very small footprint, on the other hand, a good backup solution is our chief concern, our current backup

Re: Anyone running DB 4.1.24?

2002-11-21 Thread Mika Iisakkila
Voutsinas Nikos wrote: Just a simple question. Is anyone out there running succesfully cyrus-imapd with DB 4.1.24 ? Do you have some specific problems? It's not in production over here yet, but during testing I haven't been able to pinpoint any problem that would be due to BDB 4.1. Sure, I'd

Re: How to make cyrus not change non US-ASCII characters to X

2002-11-21 Thread Peter 'Luna' Runestig
Maybe the best solution would be a filter to change the message body encoding using quoted-printable instead of putting X everywhere, and change headers to also use the appropriate encoding. What do you think about this ? I'm using this little sendmail milter to fix the subject line (could of

Re: OT LVM Snapshot for backups (was: Best way to backup cyrus syste)

2002-11-21 Thread Simon Matter
Jared Watkins schrieb: Christian Schulte wrote: Jared Watkins wrote: I would think you could use LVM the linux volume manager along with it's snapshot feature.. and then any sort of backup program you want. I'm not using this method yet... but I will be soon... is anyone else

Re: OT LVM Snapshot for backups (was: Best way to backup cyrus syste)

2002-11-21 Thread Scott Russell
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 11:28:33AM -0500, Brian wrote: Christian Schulte said: I have had many many troubles with the linux LVM itself. I would rather suggest using a well configured linux softare raid. This is much more stable than LVM! I lost 250GB because of LVM and did not have a

Re: OT LVM Snapshot for backups (was: Best way to backup cyrus syste)

2002-11-21 Thread Brian
Scott Russell said: Christian Schulte said: I have had many many troubles with the linux LVM itself. I lost 250GB because of LVM and did not have a backup. So the problem was that you didn't have backups rather than a fault of the LVM, right? No. The problem described is LVM caused a

lock_unlock() problem?

2002-11-21 Thread DAVID G MCMURTRIE
We're running an antique version of cyrus imap (1.5.14), and we've long been aware of locking problems with the mailboxes file. It seems that there are conditions where a process can acquire a lock on the mailboxes file but never release it, leaving tons of other imapd processes sitting in a

Re: Best way to backup cyrus system (lots of inodes!)

2002-11-21 Thread DAVID G MCMURTRIE
On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Steve Barber wrote: I've seen some interesting comments in this thread so far, but none seem to discuss our concerns: We have a fairly large installation, and due to the file-per-message nature this makes for millions of small files which can wreak havoc on a backup

Re: How to make cyrus not change non US-ASCII characters to X

2002-11-21 Thread Alessandro Oliveira
Do you know if there is a similar solution using postfix ? Thanks, Alessandro Oliveira Peter 'Luna' Runestig escreveu: Maybe the best solution would be a filter to change the message body encoding using quoted-printable instead of putting X everywhere, and change headers to also use the

Re: Best way to backup cyrus system (lots of inodes!)

2002-11-21 Thread Patrick Boutilier
I use TSM to backup my Cyrus mail store. Over 7 million files so it does take TSM almost 8 hours to go through the store on a nightly basis. Steve Barber wrote: I've seen some interesting comments in this thread so far, but none seem to discuss our concerns: We have a fairly large

Re: How to make cyrus not change non US-ASCII characters to X

2002-11-21 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 21 Nov 2002, Peter Runestig writes: I'm using this little sendmail milter to fix the subject line (could of course be extended to fix other headers as well): ftp://ftp.runestig.com/pub/misc/subject2rfc2047.c http://ftp.runestig.com/pub/misc/subject2rfc2047.c This is a nice idea. Your

Re: Anyone running DB 4.1.24?

2002-11-21 Thread Voutsinas Nikos
It seems that there is a problem when recovering (ctl_cyrusdb -r). I always get SIGBUS (in __db_apprec.) To test it just send SIGTERM to master and then restart it. Nikos. Mika Iisakkila wrote: Voutsinas Nikos wrote: Just a simple question. Is anyone out there running succesfully cyrus-imapd

Re: Cyrus IMAPd 2.1.10 Released

2002-11-21 Thread Hajimu UMEMOTO
Hi, Mon, 18 Nov 2002 06:28:37 +0900, Hajimu UMEMOTO [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Sun, 17 Nov 2002 12:35:41 -0500 Lawrence Greenfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: leg+ We'd like to get IPv6 support into 2.2. Would it be possible for you to leg+ create your patch against the 2.2 branch in CVS? ume

Re: cyrus compilation problem

2002-11-21 Thread Alessandro Oliveira
I think you should try, Simon Matter's RPMS, they are working great for me, I'm using rh73 here, but I think they should work on mdk also. Good Luck, Fernando Garcia escreveu: hi all, please, I'm trying to install cyrus and having the error: ---snip--- cyrusdb_db3.c: In function `mycommit':

Re: How to make cyrus not change non US-ASCII characters to X

2002-11-21 Thread Peter 'Luna' Runestig
This is a nice idea. Your program does not seem to encode the equals sign = or underscore _ in 'Q' encoded headers. I suspect that in your function mlfi_eom: if (subj[n] 0x80 || subj[n] == ' ' || subj[n] == '\t' || subj[n] == '?') { should be: if (subj[n] 0x80 || subj[n] == ' ' ||

Re: Best way to backup cyrus system (lots of inodes!)

2002-11-21 Thread Robert Scussel
On a smaller scale, we use amanda to do nightly backups of the mail spool, and we have successfully recovered after mails have been deleted. With one of our clients, we use standard NetBackup to do nightly backups, which works just as well. As for up to the minute backups though, don't know a

Re: lock_unlock() problem?

2002-11-21 Thread Rob Siemborski
On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, DAVID G MCMURTRIE wrote: We're running an antique version of cyrus imap (1.5.14), and we've long [snip] Any insight would be appreciated. Upgrade your version of cyrus Many many many locking and performance improvements have been made since then, and spending the time to

Re: Please, what are the groups? Re: mech=login, auth=sasldb,groups=???

2002-11-21 Thread Rob Siemborski
On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Mika Iisakkila wrote: Theoretically this could use nss_ldap to get groups from LDAP, but more probably you'll get the infamous death by signal 11 due to SASL library version clashes... It wouldn't probably be very hard to write a patch to do direct LDAP (or whatever)

Re: Best way to backup cyrus system (lots of inodes!)

2002-11-21 Thread Rob Siemborski
On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Steve Barber wrote: I've seen some interesting comments in this thread so far, but none seem to discuss our concerns: We have a fairly large installation, and due to the file-per-message nature this makes for millions of small files which can wreak havoc on a backup

Re: lock_unlock() problem?

2002-11-21 Thread DAVID G MCMURTRIE
On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Rob Siemborski wrote: Upgrade your version of cyrus Many many many locking and performance improvements have been made since then, and spending the time to diagnose the problems with that code base just isn't time well spent. Agreed. However, this exact piece of code

Re: Best way to backup cyrus system

2002-11-21 Thread Rob Siemborski
On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Alessandro Oliveira wrote: I'm planning to code a database backend (postgres/mysql/oracle) in the future to handle the storage, but this will take time and money, but I think it is the way to go. What do you think about this ? I'm not convinced this will be even close

Re: Problems with some MIME messages (cyrus-imapd-2.1.9)

2002-11-21 Thread Lawrence Greenfield
--On Thursday, November 21, 2002 4:29 PM +0100 Ralf Haferkamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, we encountered problems with some multipart MIME mails. It seems, that cyrus-imapd fails to correctly seperate the different parts of mail under certain circumstances. This e.g. the case if one MIME part

Re: lock_unlock() problem?

2002-11-21 Thread Lawrence Greenfield
--On Thursday, November 21, 2002 3:37 PM -0500 DAVID G MCMURTRIE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Rob Siemborski wrote: Upgrade your version of cyrus Many many many locking and performance improvements have been made since then, and spending the time to diagnose the problems with

Re: How to make cyrus not change non US-ASCII characters to X

2002-11-21 Thread Lawrence Greenfield
--On Thursday, November 21, 2002 1:26 PM -0200 Alessandro Oliveira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any possibility to put this as an autoconf option? maybe something like: ./configure --enable-strict-headers | --disable-strict-headers would do the trick, or even better, a runtime

Re: lock_unlock() problem?

2002-11-21 Thread DAVID G MCMURTRIE
On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Lawrence Greenfield wrote: Yeah, it's highly unlikely that this is the cause of your problem. Usually this is due to a client hanging in an unexpected place and the server hasn't even tried to remove it's lock. I'm surprised that Unix is allowed to return EINTR here on a

Re: How to make cyrus not change non US-ASCII characters to X

2002-11-21 Thread Lawrence Greenfield
--On Thursday, November 21, 2002 2:03 PM -0200 Alessandro Oliveira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe the best solution would be a filter to change the message body encoding using quoted-printable instead of putting X everywhere, and change headers to also use the appropriate encoding. What do you

Re: Thoughts on the age-old cyradm thingie

2002-11-21 Thread Mika Iisakkila
Jay Levitt wrote: Thinking further about this, I no longer like my idea of a separate --perl-prefix configure option, because if I do configure --prefix=/home/jay, I should reasonably expect that nothing is being installed into sitewide libraries. You're right there. Getting cyradm and the

Re: Thoughts on the age-old cyradm thingie

2002-11-21 Thread Paul M Fleming
I've built an RPM for local use and use the following I've seperated the admin stuff Cyradm included into a subpackage. I've just copied the perl / location specific stuff %install make install INSTALLDIRS=site DESTDIR=$RPM_BUILD_ROOT PREFIX=$RPM_BUILD_ROOT/usr rm

Jaguar Mail.app (using GSSAPI) thrashes with cyrus imap 2.1.9

2002-11-21 Thread Ben Poliakoff
Since upgrading our cyrus imap server from 2.0.16 to 2.1.9 the MacOSX Jaguar Mail.app no longer works with GSSAPI authentication. The cyrus server logs a successful GSSAPI authentication for a user, but Mail.app then violently spins it's wheels while performing two tasks: Traversing mail

Re: Best way to backup cyrus system

2002-11-21 Thread Jay Levitt
- Original Message - From: Rob Siemborski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Alessandro Oliveira [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 3:28 PM Subject: Re: Best way to backup cyrus system On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Alessandro Oliveira wrote: I'm

Re: Jaguar Mail.app (using GSSAPI) thrashes with cyrus imap 2.1.9

2002-11-21 Thread mb/cyrus
On Nov 21 Ben Poliakoff wrote: tcpdump running on our cyrus server captures over *8000* imap packets going back and forth to the Jaguar Mail.app. Finally Mail.app quits unexpectedly. Apple Mail is so nearly beautiful, but it has many horrible bugs (even in 10.2.1), and it's dog slow. I've

Re: Jaguar Mail.app (using GSSAPI) thrashes with cyrus imap 2.1.9

2002-11-21 Thread Brian
On Nov 21 Ben Poliakoff wrote: tcpdump running on our cyrus server captures over *8000* imap packets going back and forth to the Jaguar Mail.app. Finally Mail.app quits unexpectedly. Apple Mail is so nearly beautiful, but it has many horrible bugs (even in 10.2.1), and it's dog slow.

Re: How to make cyrus not change non US-ASCII characters to X

2002-11-21 Thread Mark Keasling
Hi, On Thu, 21 Nov 2002 16:36:31 -0500, Lawrence Greenfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote... --On Thursday, November 21, 2002 2:03 PM -0200 Alessandro Oliveira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe the best solution would be a filter to change the message body encoding using quoted-printable instead