[Int-area] I-D Action: draft-ietf-intarea-tunnels-10.txt

2019-09-12 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Internet Area Working Group WG of the IETF. Title : IP Tunnels in the Internet Architecture Authors : Joe Touch Mark

Re: [Int-area] Discussion about Section 6.1 in draft-ietf-intarea-frag-fragile

2019-09-12 Thread Templin (US), Fred L
Ron, it is just a drop in the bucket compared with the amount of discussion since "Fragmentation Considered Harmful (1987)". But, I think we now clearly see a case where fragmentation is *required*. Thanks - Fred > -Original Message- > From: Int-area [mailto:int-area-boun...@ietf.org]

Re: [Int-area] Discussion about Section 6.1 in draft-ietf-intarea-frag-fragile

2019-09-12 Thread Ron Bonica
Folks, To the best of my knowledge, 508 messages have been posted to this mailing list regarding draft-ietf-intarea-frag-fragile. I wonder if that is a WG record? Ron Juniper Business Use Only

Re: [Int-area] Discussion about Section 6.1 in draft-ietf-intarea-frag-fragile

2019-09-12 Thread Joe Touch
> On Sep 12, 2019, at 6:57 AM, Templin (US), Fred L > wrote: > >>> IPv4 with a small PMTU also comes to mind, as discussed in Section 3.2.2 of >>> RFC 4213: >>> >>> In this case, the IPv6 layer has to "see" a link >>> layer with an MTU of 1280 bytes and the encapsulator has to use IPv4

Re: [Int-area] Discussion about Section 6.1 in draft-ietf-intarea-frag-fragile

2019-09-12 Thread Templin (US), Fred L
> -Original Message- > From: Int-area [mailto:int-area-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Templin (US), > Fred L > Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2019 6:31 AM > To: Brian E Carpenter ; Bob Hinden > > Cc: int-area@ietf.org; Suresh Krishnan > Subject: Re: [Int-area] Discussion about Section

Re: [Int-area] Discussion about Section 6.1 in draft-ietf-intarea-frag-fragile

2019-09-12 Thread Templin (US), Fred L
Bob, > -Original Message- > From: Bob Hinden [mailto:bob.hin...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 3:59 PM > To: Templin (US), Fred L > Cc: Bob Hinden ; Geoff Huston ; Joe > Touch ; int-area@ietf.org; > Suresh Krishnan > Subject: Re: [Int-area] Discussion about Section

Re: [Int-area] Discussion about Section 6.1 in draft-ietf-intarea-frag-fragile

2019-09-12 Thread Templin (US), Fred L
Brian, > -Original Message- > From: Brian E Carpenter [mailto:brian.e.carpen...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 4:14 PM > To: Bob Hinden ; Templin (US), Fred L > > Cc: int-area@ietf.org; Suresh Krishnan > Subject: Re: [Int-area] Discussion about Section 6.1 in >