Re: [Interest] [Development] Windows 7 support will be dropped in Qt 6

2020-06-13 Thread Konrad Rosenbaum
On 2020-06-12 02:44, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On 12/6/20 10:17 am, Scott Bloom wrote: >> Why is Win7 being dropped?  I (my company) has gotten burned pretty >> hard by the dropping of CentOS 6, similar reasons listed for win7.. > > It's funny that there's so much discussion about dropping Windows 7

Re: [Interest] [Development] Windows 7 support will be dropped in Qt 6

2020-06-13 Thread Filip Piechocki
Hi, for me not updating a system, software etc for many years is just equal to building a technical debt. Any serious company should be aware that this will finally kick them in their butt, should have measure the potential cost and decide where is the point where they should switch. If a company d

Re: [Interest] [Development] Windows 7 support will be dropped in Qt 6

2020-06-13 Thread Konrad Rosenbaum
On 2020-06-13 03:22, Thiago Macieira wrote: > On Friday, 12 June 2020 05:01:17 PDT Roland Hughes wrote: >> You can't drop an OS as long as there are paying customers for it. > Sure they can. But as a consequence, those customers may stop paying for it. ...and may never return. >> Real business nee

Re: [Interest] [Development] Windows 7 support will be dropped in Qt 6

2020-06-13 Thread Konrad Rosenbaum
On 2020-06-13 09:42, Filip Piechocki wrote: > for me not updating a system, software etc for many years is just > equal to building a technical debt. Any serious company should be > aware that this will finally kick them in their butt, should have > measure the potential cost and decide where is th

Re: [Interest] [Development] Windows 7 support will be dropped in Qt 6

2020-06-13 Thread Vadim Peretokin
At the end of the day it is the commercial contracts that the Qt company has that fund the development of Qt. If you have one, make sure to reach out on the appropriate channels. If you don't have one, get one, so you have a voice. ___ Interest mailing l

Re: [Interest] [Development] Windows 7 support will be dropped in Qt 6

2020-06-13 Thread Scott Bloom
From: Interest On Behalf Of Thiago Macieira Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 6:23 PM To: interest@qt-project.org Subject: Re: [Interest] [Development] Windows 7 support will be dropped in Qt 6 On Friday, 12 June 2020 05:01:17 PDT Roland Hughes wrote: > You can't drop an OS as long as there are paying

Re: [Interest] [Development] Windows 7 support will be dropped in Qt 6

2020-06-13 Thread Roland Hughes
Medical devices are certified with their manufacturing process. Certification of something like a surgical robot can take 5+ years of clinical trials. That is _after_ you have done all of your internal development and cadaver trials. On 6/13/20 5:00 AM, interest-requ...@qt-project.org wrote:

Re: [Interest] Interest Digest, Vol 105, Issue 15

2020-06-13 Thread Roland Hughes
On 6/13/20 5:00 AM, interest-requ...@qt-project.org wrote: Real business needs a 15-30 year LTS, not 5. How do you define "real business"? How about by revenue or market capitalisation? The biggest companies on the planet (Apple, Amazon, Microsoft) don't support your assertion. The top one (App

Re: [Interest] Windows 7 support will be dropped in Qt 6

2020-06-13 Thread Roland Hughes
On 6/13/20 5:00 AM, interest-requ...@qt-project.org wrote: Yes, anyone needing to support Win 7 can still use Qt 5, which is what's going to happen for several more years at least. I though one of the goals for Qt 6 was quicker adaptation than the Qt 4 -> 5 migration. From this move, and every

Re: [Interest] [Development] Windows 7 support will be dropped in Qt 6

2020-06-13 Thread Roland Hughes
On 6/13/20 5:00 AM, Konrad Rosenbaum wrote: (*)if you walk into a running factory it is pretty normal to find a large portion of the machines running XP, I would not be surprised to find a W2k machine or even a machine running DOS in a factory that has been running for 15 years. New factories wi

Re: [Interest] [Development] Windows 7 support will be dropped in Qt 6

2020-06-13 Thread Roland Hughes
On 6/13/20 5:00 AM, Filip Piechocki wrote: Hi, for me not updating a system, software etc for many years is just equal to building a technical debt. Any serious company should be aware that this will finally kick them in their butt, should have measure the potential cost and decide where is the

Re: [Interest] [Development] Windows 7 support will be dropped in Qt 6

2020-06-13 Thread Roland Hughes
On 6/13/20 5:00 AM, Konrad Rosenbaum wrote: Here is a challenge for you Thiago: on Monday contact the manufacturing side of your company and ask them for a clean room tour in one of Intel's many fabs - once there take a very close look at the control screens of the machines in there, note the sy

Re: [Interest] [Development] Windows 7 support will be dropped in Qt 6

2020-06-13 Thread Jonathan Purol
I am not nearly as invested with big business as the rest of the people here and lack the experience most of you have. However what currently seems to be happening is a back and forth of "We need to progress, because technical debt and X" "Yes but big companies can't progress because Y" This has be