Re: [Interest] Qt 5.15 LTS vs Qt 6.2 LTS

2021-10-05 Thread Roland Hughes via Interest
Tuukka said: > Qt is well suited for this type of an approach, and we also have a certified solution to the safety critical functionality: https://www.qt.io/product/functional-safety-and-qt ... Yeah, I've always found that link in particular to be at best, shady. You start with this loud an

Re: [Interest] Qt 5.15 LTS vs Qt 6.2 LTS

2021-10-03 Thread Tuukka Turunen
safety experts and leverage items that are part of our commercial offering. Yours, Tuukka From: Interest on behalf of Ulf Hermann Date: Saturday, 2. October 2021 at 18.15 To: interest@qt-project.org Subject: Re: [Interest] Qt 5.15 LTS vs Qt 6.2 LTS > There are no patient kill

Re: [Interest] Qt 5.15 LTS vs Qt 6.2 LTS

2021-10-03 Thread Roland Hughes via Interest
On 10/2/21 7:47 PM, Ulf Hermann wrote: I might be wrong with those steps because I don't know the approval process. Yet, I'm sure there is some pragmatic way to produce what you want. You may want to share your ideas on what it actually takes. There is not a pragmatic way within what Qt has. To

Re: [Interest] Qt 5.15 LTS vs Qt 6.2 LTS

2021-10-02 Thread Ulf Hermann
There are no patient killing bugs in the underlying OS or the previously used drivers. Those only exist in the new drivers, new OS patches and new Qt code. All of the new code has to be written following 62304 SDLC Although I doubt that Windows XP or the new graphics drivers are free of patien

Re: [Interest] Qt 5.15 LTS vs Qt 6.2 LTS

2021-10-02 Thread Roland Hughes via Interest
On 10/1/2021 10:52 AM, Ulf Hermann wrote: I doubt you get a paid-for 5.15 LTS under an Open Source licence, so no, this is not comparable a̲t̲ ̲a̲l̲l̲. I did not compare to anything. Roland listed a number of open source projects with LTS versions_after_ I wrote this. If you want to discuss t

Re: [Interest] Qt 5.15 LTS vs Qt 6.2 LTS

2021-10-02 Thread Roland Hughes via Interest
On 10/1/2021 5:00 AM, Ulf Hermann wrote: 1) On rare occasions patient killing bugs like this one get fixed. https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-12055 This has very little to do with "security" unless one puts application stability under the se

Re: [Interest] Qt 5.15 LTS vs Qt 6.2 LTS

2021-10-01 Thread Ulf Hermann
I doubt you get a paid-for 5.15 LTS under an Open Source licence, so no, this is not comparable a̲t̲ ̲a̲l̲l̲. I did not compare to anything. Roland listed a number of open source projects with LTS versions _after_ I wrote this. If you want to discuss the issue of "I want a supported open sour

Re: [Interest] Qt 5.15 LTS vs Qt 6.2 LTS

2021-10-01 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Fri, 1 Oct 2021, Ulf Hermann wrote: > Long story short: You can have a Qt 5.15 LTS. You just have to pay for I doubt you get a paid-for 5.15 LTS under an Open Source licence, so no, this is not comparable a̲t̲ ̲a̲l̲l̲. bye, //mirabilos -- 15:41⎜ Somebody write a testsuite for helloworld :-)

Re: [Interest] Qt 5.15 LTS vs Qt 6.2 LTS

2021-10-01 Thread coroberti
On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 8:49 PM Thiago Macieira wrote: > > On Wednesday, 29 September 2021 10:22:41 PDT coroberti wrote: > > Thiago, you know well about the Extended Support Programs, are not you? > > So, why to skip it? > > No, I didn't. I searched for "windows 7 eol" and found two pages at > mic

Re: [Interest] Qt 5.15 LTS vs Qt 6.2 LTS

2021-10-01 Thread Roland Hughes via Interest
On 9/30/21 9:22 AM, Volker Hilsheimer wrote: On 30 Sep 2021, at 15:59, Roland Hughes via Interest wrote: On 9/30/21 5:00 AM, interest-requ...@qt-project.org wrote: On Wednesday, 29 September 2021 07:40:11 PDT Rui Oliveira wrote: "Both *Windows 7 or 8.x* version support will not be availab

Re: [Interest] Qt 5.15 LTS vs Qt 6.2 LTS

2021-09-30 Thread Ulf Hermann
Long story short: You can have a Qt 5.15 LTS. You just have to pay for it. You can even have Qt supported on obscure outdated platforms, as Volker mentioned. It's just even more expensive. The price is high because there is a lot work involved in making this happen and the number of customers r

Re: [Interest] Qt 5.15 LTS vs Qt 6.2 LTS

2021-09-30 Thread Roland Hughes via Interest
On 9/30/21 3:44 PM, Ulf Hermann wrote: As of last month, 1.26% of all laptops and desktop computers worldwide were still running on the 19-year-old OS. That’s a greater proportion than much younger operating systems Windows 8 (0.57%), ChromeOS (0.42%) and Windows Vista (0.12%). The only thing on

Re: [Interest] Qt 5.15 LTS vs Qt 6.2 LTS

2021-09-30 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Thursday, 30 September 2021 06:59:17 PDT Roland Hughes via Interest wrote: > As the very public conversations with our friend Scott have revealed, > even Intel is running **in production** systems Qt dropped. Ironic since > they are using it to make the very chips needed to run Qt at least in >

Re: [Interest] Qt 5.15 LTS vs Qt 6.2 LTS

2021-09-30 Thread Volker Hilsheimer
> On 30 Sep 2021, at 15:59, Roland Hughes via Interest > wrote: > On 9/30/21 5:00 AM, interest-requ...@qt-project.org wrote: >> On Wednesday, 29 September 2021 07:40:11 PDT Rui Oliveira wrote: >> >>> "Both *Windows 7 or 8.x* >>> version support will not be available for Qt 6" >>> >> https://su

Re: [Interest] Qt 5.15 LTS vs Qt 6.2 LTS

2021-09-30 Thread Ulf Hermann
As of last month, 1.26% of all laptops and desktop computers worldwide were still running on the 19-year-old OS. That’s a greater proportion than much younger operating systems Windows 8 (0.57%), ChromeOS (0.42%) and Windows Vista (0.12%). The only thing one has to do to keep these systems "secu

Re: [Interest] Qt 5.15 LTS vs Qt 6.2 LTS

2021-09-30 Thread Roland Hughes via Interest
On 9/30/21 5:00 AM, interest-requ...@qt-project.org wrote: On Wednesday, 29 September 2021 07:40:11 PDT Rui Oliveira wrote: "Both*Windows 7 or 8.x* version support will not be available for Qt 6" https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-7-support-ended-on-january-14-2020-b75d4580-2

Re: [Interest] Qt 5.15 LTS vs Qt 6.2 LTS

2021-09-29 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Wednesday, 29 September 2021 10:22:41 PDT coroberti wrote: > Thiago, you know well about the Extended Support Programs, are not you? > So, why to skip it? No, I didn't. I searched for "windows 7 eol" and found two pages at microsoft.com mentioning the date I pasted, with no information about e

Re: [Interest] Qt 5.15 LTS vs Qt 6.2 LTS

2021-09-29 Thread coroberti
On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 7:53 PM Thiago Macieira wrote: > > On Wednesday, 29 September 2021 07:40:11 PDT Rui Oliveira wrote: > > "Both *Windows 7 or 8.x* version support will not be available for Qt 6" > > https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-7-support-ended-on-january-14-2020-b75d45

Re: [Interest] Qt 5.15 LTS vs Qt 6.2 LTS

2021-09-29 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Wednesday, 29 September 2021 07:40:11 PDT Rui Oliveira wrote: > "Both *Windows 7 or 8.x* version support will not be available for Qt 6" https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-7-support-ended-on-january-14-2020-b75d4580-2cc7-895a-2c9c-1466d9a53962 "Support for Windows 7 ended on J

Re: [Interest] Qt 5.15 LTS vs Qt 6.2 LTS

2021-09-29 Thread Alexander Dyagilev
No. I've checked: Qt6 application can't even start under Windows 7 - it shows some error about some missing dependency in system libs... On 9/29/2021 5:40 PM, Rui Oliveira wrote: I understand that Qt will probably still "just work" ___ Interest mailin

Re: [Interest] Qt 5.15 LTS vs Qt 6.2 LTS

2021-09-29 Thread Rui Oliveira
f of Ramakanth Kesireddy mailto:rama.k...@gmail.com>> *Date: *Thursday, 23. September 2021 at 9.38 *To: *Qt Interest mailto:interest@qt-project.org>> *Subject: *[Interest] Qt 5.15 LTS vs Qt 6.2 LTS Hi, Our application on embedded linux uses Qt Quick, Qt5

Re: [Interest] Qt 5.15 LTS vs Qt 6.2 LTS

2021-09-29 Thread Ramakanth Kesireddy
> *Date: *Thursday, 23. September 2021 at 9.38 > *To: *Qt Interest > *Subject: *[Interest] Qt 5.15 LTS vs Qt 6.2 LTS > > Hi, > > > > Our application on embedded linux uses Qt Quick, Qt5 sqlite, Qt5 Remote > objects, Qt5 Concurrent, Qt5 Webengine, Qt5 Printsupport al

Re: [Interest] Qt 5.15 LTS vs Qt 6.2 LTS

2021-09-25 Thread Alexander Dyagilev
Hello, You can't use Qt6 if you, for example, need to support Windows 7. On 9/23/2021 9:43 AM, Ramakanth Kesireddy wrote: Hi, Our application on embedded linux uses Qt Quick, Qt5 sqlite, Qt5 Remote objects, Qt5 Concurrent, Qt5 Webengine, Qt5 Printsupport along with Qt5Core and Qt5GUI. As w

Re: [Interest] Qt 5.15 LTS vs Qt 6.2 LTS

2021-09-23 Thread Tuukka Turunen
: Thursday, 23. September 2021 at 9.38 To: Qt Interest Subject: [Interest] Qt 5.15 LTS vs Qt 6.2 LTS Hi, Our application on embedded linux uses Qt Quick, Qt5 sqlite, Qt5 Remote objects, Qt5 Concurrent, Qt5 Webengine, Qt5 Printsupport along with Qt5Core and Qt5GUI. As we are currently planning

[Interest] Qt 5.15 LTS vs Qt 6.2 LTS

2021-09-22 Thread Ramakanth Kesireddy
Hi, Our application on embedded linux uses Qt Quick, Qt5 sqlite, Qt5 Remote objects, Qt5 Concurrent, Qt5 Webengine, Qt5 Printsupport along with Qt5Core and Qt5GUI. As we are currently planning to upgrade to Qt 5.15 LTS, does it makes sense to move to Qt 6.2 LTS wrto stability and performance? Ap