Re: [PHP-DEV] Renaming namespaces to packages

2007-08-13 Thread Richard Quadling
On 10/08/07, Stanislav Malyshev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My perception is that when people talk about namespaces they usually mean logical separation of things in, well, naming space, and when they talk packages they usually mean files on disk and putting things into files and finding which

[PHP-DEV] PHP 4 Bug Summary Report

2007-08-13 Thread internals
PHP 4 Bug Database summary - http://bugs.php.net Num Status Summary (630 total including feature requests) ===[*General Issues]== 42165 Open fsockopen ssl Operation now in progress (115)

Re: [PHP-DEV] php5 as universal binary (Mac OS X)

2007-08-13 Thread Christian Speich
hello again, so now i have the test results :) (I dont have an ppc mac, so i ask an friend) And it dosn't work! When i configure it on an intel mac, the WORDS_BIDENDIAN macro will never definied. But i need to define this macro when the compiler runs the ppc-compile. I think the code

Re: [PHP-DEV] php5 as universal binary (Mac OS X)

2007-08-13 Thread Antony Dovgal
On 13.08.2007 14:09, Christian Speich wrote: hello again, so now i have the test results :) (I dont have an ppc mac, so i ask an friend) As far as I know, GCC on PPC is unable to generate universal binaries, so I don't understand what exactly you were testing there.. And it dosn't work!

Re: [Fwd: Re: [PHP-DEV] Renaming namespaces to packages]

2007-08-13 Thread Keryx Web
Stanislav Malyshev skrev: And they, btw, are not ashamed of calling it namespaces just because it's not c++ ;) Exactly. That was my main point. And, as I said,ECMAScript 4 will most probably be the main other language for most ordinary PHP developers, not Java and certainly not C.

Re: [Fwd: Re: [PHP-DEV] Renaming namespaces to packages]

2007-08-13 Thread Tijnema
On 8/13/07, Keryx Web [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stanislav Malyshev skrev: And they, btw, are not ashamed of calling it namespaces just because it's not c++ ;) Exactly. That was my main point. And, as I said,ECMAScript 4 will most probably be the main other language for most ordinary PHP

Re: [Fwd: Re: [PHP-DEV] Renaming namespaces to packages]

2007-08-13 Thread Larry Garfield
On Monday 13 August 2007, Tijnema wrote: On 8/13/07, Keryx Web [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stanislav Malyshev skrev: And they, btw, are not ashamed of calling it namespaces just because it's not c++ ;) Exactly. That was my main point. And, as I said,ECMAScript 4 will most probably be

Re: [Fwd: Re: [PHP-DEV] Renaming namespaces to packages]

2007-08-13 Thread Richard Quadling
On 13/08/07, Tijnema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since JavaScript (or ECMAScript) doesn't have namespaces, people that hear the name namespace for php will either don't know what it is, or think that it's the same as the C implementation. Tijnema I don't know what namespaces look like in other

Re: [Fwd: Re: [PHP-DEV] Renaming namespaces to packages]

2007-08-13 Thread Tijnema
On 8/13/07, Larry Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 13 August 2007, Tijnema wrote: On 8/13/07, Keryx Web [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stanislav Malyshev skrev: And they, btw, are not ashamed of calling it namespaces just because it's not c++ ;) Exactly. That was my main

Re: [Fwd: Re: [PHP-DEV] Renaming namespaces to packages]

2007-08-13 Thread Giedrius D
It isn't C++-like namespaces and it isn't Java-like packages. So it doesn't really matters what name will be used. It will confuse newcomers from any language anyway. I came to PHP from C++ and I find my self confused from time to time even though I code in PHP for a few years now. There are

Re: [Fwd: Re: [PHP-DEV] Renaming namespaces to packages]

2007-08-13 Thread Keryx Web
Tijnema skrev: Since JavaScript (or ECMAScript) doesn't have namespaces, people that hear the name namespace for php will either don't know what it is, or think that it's the same as the C implementation. ECMAScript 3 aka JavaScript 1.x does not have NS. ECMAScript 4 aka JavaScript 2 will

[PHP-DEV] Re: [ZEND-ENGINE-CVS] cvs: ZendEngine2(PHP_5_2) / zend_language_parser.y

2007-08-13 Thread Jani Taskinen
Was there something wrong with the patch or what? Reverting without _discussing_ is not very nice.. --Jani Stanislav Malyshev kirjoitti: stasMon Aug 13 21:16:57 2007 UTC Modified files: (Branch: PHP_5_2) /ZendEngine2 zend_language_parser.y Log: Revert

[PHP-DEV] Re: [ZEND-ENGINE-CVS] cvs: ZendEngine2(PHP_5_2) / zend_language_parser.y

2007-08-13 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
Was there something wrong with the patch or what? Yes, it was major syntax change in minor version. These belong to 5.3/HEAD, as many others of like nature do. Reverting without _discussing_ is not very nice.. It was discussed and I also confirmed it with the release manager (Ilia). --

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [ZEND-ENGINE-CVS] cvs: ZendEngine2(PHP_5_2) / zend_language_parser.y

2007-08-13 Thread Ilia Alshanetsky
Jani, Dmitry asked that the patch be reverted and I agreed with him. Since the author didn't have time (I am guessing), I've asked Stas to revert the patch. The reason being that this change is too major to commit at the very last minute in the release cycle. The code will go back into

Re: [Fwd: Re: [PHP-DEV] Renaming namespaces to packages]

2007-08-13 Thread Alan Knowles
The two pages for reference. http://developer.mozilla.org/es4/spec/chapter_11_packages.html http://developer.mozilla.org/es4/spec/chapter_12_namespaces.html The spec's quite nice, although a bit of a nightmare to implement in parts ;) - From what I've seen, and I've not been keeping up with

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [ZEND-ENGINE-CVS] cvs: ZendEngine2(PHP_5_2) / zend_language_parser.y

2007-08-13 Thread Hannes Magnusson
Then this needs to be clear in the NEWS file as this is in RC1... -Hannes On 8/14/07, Ilia Alshanetsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jani, Dmitry asked that the patch be reverted and I agreed with him. Since the author didn't have time (I am guessing), I've asked Stas to revert the patch. The

[PHP-DEV] PHP 6 Bug Summary Report

2007-08-13 Thread internals
PHP 6 Bug Database summary - http://bugs.php.net Num Status Summary (57 total including feature requests) ===[*General Issues]== 26771 Suspended register_tick_funtions crash under threaded webservers 27372 Verified parse error

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [ZEND-ENGINE-CVS] cvs: ZendEngine2(PHP_5_2) / zend_language_parser.y

2007-08-13 Thread Cristian Rodriguez
On 8/13/07, Stanislav Malyshev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Was there something wrong with the patch or what? Yes, it was major syntax change in minor version. A Major bugfix maybe ( yes, it was clearly a bug/misfeature) -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe,

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [ZEND-ENGINE-CVS] cvs: ZendEngine2(PHP_5_2) / zend_language_parser.y

2007-08-13 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
A Major bugfix maybe ( yes, it was clearly a bug/misfeature) A bug is when code doesn't do what was intended. This is not the case, this is the case of missing feature. While I think everybody agrees this feature is good to us, it's not the time to add it. We lived for years without it, we