Hi!
On 8/14/11 11:21 PM, Sebastian Krebs wrote:
I already made an suggestion [1], that bypass this.
That suggestion means you can not autoload namespaced function that
overrides global function. Major WTF. Also leads to two autoload calls
(one most probably resulting in exhaustive include pa
Hi,
2011/8/15 Stas Malyshev
> Hi!
>
>
> On 8/14/11 9:35 PM, Sebastian Krebs wrote:
>
>> Now I'm getting a little bit confused: About which new/changing
>> semantics you are talking about? I want to use custom functions, that
>> exists, since the language itself exists, but I want to get rid of
>
Hi!
On 8/14/11 9:35 PM, Sebastian Krebs wrote:
Now I'm getting a little bit confused: About which new/changing
semantics you are talking about? I want to use custom functions, that
exists, since the language itself exists, but I want to get rid of
unnecessary `[include|require]_once()`-calls.
Hi Tjerk:
yes, substr_compare can do it, and it also supports negative
length argument too.
but I am proposal to improve strn(case)cmp, so they are not conflict . :)
thanks
2011/8/15 Tjerk Anne Meesters :
> Hi,
>
> Doesn't substr_compare() accomplish the same thing since 5.1.0?
>
> The o
Hi,
Am 15.08.2011 02:37, schrieb Stas Malyshev:
Hi!
On 8/14/11 2:50 PM, Sebastian Krebs wrote:
I just want to use functions. Whats wrong with that? Really: Thats all.
Nothing at all. But changing semantics of the language because somebody
doesn't want to use existing semantics doesn't look l
Am 14.08.2011 23:52, schrieb Rasmus Lerdorf:
On 08/14/2011 02:37 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
On 08/14/2011 02:03 PM, Stas Malyshev wrote:
Hi!
On 8/14/11 11:40 AM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
My main issue with changing strncmp/strncasecmp is that these are
currently exact mappings of the underlying
Hi,
Doesn't substr_compare() accomplish the same thing since 5.1.0?
The only thing I couldn't figure out is how to make it case
insensitive without specifying an explicit value to $length
Best,
Tjerk
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Laruence wrote:
> Hi:
> compare to use substr, strncm
Hi:
compare to use substr, strncmp supporting negative lenght can
save a temp variable.
thanks
2011/8/15 Rasmus Lerdorf :
> On 08/14/2011 02:37 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
>> On 08/14/2011 02:03 PM, Stas Malyshev wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> On 8/14/11 11:40 AM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
My main is
Hi!
On 8/14/11 2:50 PM, Sebastian Krebs wrote:
I just want to use functions. Whats wrong with that? Really: Thats all.
Nothing at all. But changing semantics of the language because somebody
doesn't want to use existing semantics doesn't look like a good idea to
me. PHP has means to do what
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 12:11 AM, Rasmus Schultz wrote:
> Instead of trying to figure out how to autoload functions and cover all your
> bases, how about simply adding a __call() magic method?
>
> That way, each application (or framework) can make their own decisions about
> what they're going to
Instead of trying to figure out how to autoload functions and cover all your
bases, how about simply adding a __call() magic method?
That way, each application (or framework) can make their own decisions about
what they're going to autoload and how.
A much simpler solution, and one with more pote
On 08/14/2011 02:37 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
> On 08/14/2011 02:03 PM, Stas Malyshev wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> On 8/14/11 11:40 AM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
>>> My main issue with changing strncmp/strncasecmp is that these are
>>> currently exact mappings of the underlying libc functions. For people
>>
>>
Hi,
Am 14.08.2011 23:06, schrieb Stas Malyshev:
Hi!
On 8/14/11 1:39 PM, Sebastian Krebs wrote:
Counterquestion: Why shouldn't I use functions? They exists, they are
Because if you want to use functions of similar nature organized in a
package, that's what classes are used for.
When I must
On 08/14/2011 02:03 PM, Stas Malyshev wrote:
> Hi!
>
> On 8/14/11 11:40 AM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
>> My main issue with changing strncmp/strncasecmp is that these are
>> currently exact mappings of the underlying libc functions. For people
>
> And why should anybody care? 99% of people using PHP
Hi!
On 8/14/11 1:39 PM, Sebastian Krebs wrote:
Counterquestion: Why shouldn't I use functions? They exists, they are
Because if you want to use functions of similar nature organized in a
package, that's what classes are used for. You want to do something that
goes contrary to how language is
Hi!
On 8/14/11 11:40 AM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
My main issue with changing strncmp/strncasecmp is that these are
currently exact mappings of the underlying libc functions. For people
And why should anybody care? 99% of people using PHP never used a libc
function and can hardly tell libc from
Hi,
Am 14.08.2011 15:55, schrieb Derick Rethans:
On Sat, 6 Aug 2011, Ferenc Kovacs wrote:
I would like to introduce this RFC which would provide function
autoloading through the spl_autoload facility without userland BC
breakage.
https://wiki.php.net/rfc/autofunc
I understand the proposal,
Gwynne Raskind wrote:
The only real disadvantage to hg is having to handle python code to maintain
> it, people might start converting from PHP;) Although phphgadmin is a start
> to improving the php interface support and could be a good start at a fully
> PHP managed interface to a PHP repo?
Hi,
Am 14.08.2011 20:17, schrieb Stas Malyshev:
Hi!
On 8/14/11 7:02 AM, Nikita Popov wrote:
As Sebastian already mentioned, if all functions in a namespace are
grouped into one file, it would be simple to load that file using such
a concept.
Why wouldn't you just use a class?
Counterquesti
On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 04:18, Lester Caine wrote:
> The only real disadvantage to hg is having to handle python code to maintain
> it, people might start converting from PHP ;) Although phphgadmin is a start
> to improving the php interface support and could be a good start at a fully
> PHP manag
On 08/14/2011 11:26 AM, Stas Malyshev wrote:
> Hi!
>
>>> Maybe, but I would classify *that* as a bug as it makes no sense at all.
>
> Thinking more about it, something like:
>
> if(strncasecmp($filename, ".php", -4) === 0) {
> /* got php file! */
> }
>
> seems to me just fine and better than
Hi!
On 8/13/11 5:17 AM, Laruence wrote:
Dear all:
I am going to close strn(case)cmp supporting negative length vote,
since it has been calling for vote near two weeks, and no new feedback
I think we need some more time to discuss it. Give it a week, then let's
see.
--
Stanislav Malyshev
Hi!
Maybe, but I would classify *that* as a bug as it makes no sense at all.
Thinking more about it, something like:
if(strncasecmp($filename, ".php", -4) === 0) {
/* got php file! */
}
seems to me just fine and better than doing the same with substr. I
would definitely be against the war
Hi!
imo the patch is consistent with how substr works:
tyrael@thor:~$ php -d display_errors=1 -d error_reporting=-1 -r 'echo
substr("prefix_num", -100);'
prefix_num
Maybe, but I would classify *that* as a bug as it makes no sense at all.
It makes some sense, if you take the meaning of argume
Hi!
On 8/14/11 7:02 AM, Nikita Popov wrote:
As Sebastian already mentioned, if all functions in a namespace are
grouped into one file, it would be simple to load that file using such
a concept.
Why wouldn't you just use a class?
--
Stanislav Malyshev, Software Architect
SugarCRM: http://www.su
Hi:
sorry, the example is wrong , it should be :
thanks
2011/8/14 Laruence :
> Hi all internalers:
> Since there comes some new objections, I think I should open the
> RFC voteing again.
>
> to Derick, if I extended voting phase for two weeks , can we
> consider this voteing va
Hi all internalers:
Since there comes some new objections, I think I should open the
RFC voteing again.
to Derick, if I extended voting phase for two weeks , can we
consider this voteing valid?
I think this proposal is not explained clearly before, so I am
going to explain it agia
On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 8:14 AM, Aaron Thompson wrote:
> I've been using php for along time and want to contribute to the php
> world
>
>
The best approach here is to find something that interests you, work on it
and send a patch to the mailing list.
Only people with a decent amount of contributi
On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 3:55 PM, Derick Rethans wrote:
> I understand the proposal, but I don't see any compelling reasons in the
> RFC of why we actually need autoloading for functions? For classes it
> makes sense because there is almost always a class to file mapping. For
> functions (and const
Hi:
I think what I was done is try to describe a image, that we can make
follow codes more simple:
if (strncmp(substr("num_suffix", 0, -5), "suffix", 5) == 0) {
echo "they have the same suffix";
}
yes, there is must something not good in my patch, but I think I
can tweak it as
On Sat, 6 Aug 2011, Ferenc Kovacs wrote:
> I would like to introduce this RFC which would provide function
> autoloading through the spl_autoload facility without userland BC
> breakage.
>
> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/autofunc
I understand the proposal, but I don't see any compelling reasons in th
Hi:
this just to say that stncasecmp has the same behavior of either
negative or postive length argument.
why you insist to this point? as strncmp("", "bbb", 100)
works with no warning, why negative length need trigger warnings?
thanks
2011/8/14 Derick Rethans :
> On Sun, 14 Aug
>> imo the patch is consistent with how substr works:
>> tyrael@thor:~$ php -d display_errors=1 -d error_reporting=-1 -r 'echo
>> substr("prefix_num", -100);'
>> prefix_num
>
> Maybe, but I would classify *that* as a bug as it makes no sense at all.
>
I don't mind that, and imho laruence would be
On Sun, 14 Aug 2011, Ferenc Kovacs wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Derick Rethans wrote:
> > On Sat, 13 Aug 2011, Laruence wrote:
> >
> >> Dear all:
> >> I am going to close strn(case)cmp supporting negative length vote,
> >> since it has been calling for vote near two weeks, and no
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Jan Dolecek wrote:
> Someone said that it won't be that easy, because functions are
> searched within a namespace first and when they don't exist there,
> then are called from global namespace.
>
> Example:
> namespace example;
> echo substr('Test', 1, 1);
>
> Whe
On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Derick Rethans wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Aug 2011, Laruence wrote:
>
>> Dear all:
>> I am going to close strn(case)cmp supporting negative length vote,
>> since it has been calling for vote near two weeks, and no new feedback
>> .
>>
>> the Voting result is:
>>
Am 12.08.2011 15:54, schrieb Jan Dolecek:
Someone said that it won't be that easy, because functions are
searched within a namespace first and when they don't exist there,
then are called from global namespace.
Example:
Whats about "both"?
- Does \ exists?
- Does \ exists?
Till here everyt
On Sat, 13 Aug 2011, Laruence wrote:
> Dear all:
> I am going to close strn(case)cmp supporting negative length vote,
> since it has been calling for vote near two weeks, and no new feedback
> .
>
> the Voting result is:
> Support : 6 felipe pajoye pierrick gwynne tyrael laruence
>
Larry Garfield wrote:
Submodules may make sense for PHP/PECL. I'm not sure. That would
likely take the form of a series of repositories, one for each PECL
module, much the way Drupal has for its modules. Then the PHP core
repository would include a submodule reference to the PECL modules that
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