Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.1.0RC2

2005-09-17 Thread Lukas Smith
Sebastian Bergmann wrote: Marcus Boerger schrieb: honestly why do you want to prefix iterators? and secondly i'd be just plain stupid to prefix the exception classes. Bugger, I forgot that those two (iterators and exceptions) are part of SPL for a second. They're so essential, IMHO, that I

Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.1.0RC2

2005-09-15 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
Wez Furlong schrieb: > The "Oh my God!" meaning comes from the fuller phrase "Bugger me!"; > neither usage is appropriate for polite company. Rest assured that I will never use that phrase again. Thanks for your clarification! -- Sebastian Bergmann http://www.sebastian-ber

Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.1.0RC2

2005-09-15 Thread Wez Furlong
The "Oh my God!" meaning comes from the fuller phrase "Bugger me!"; neither usage is appropriate for polite company. --Wez. On 9/15/05, Sebastian Bergmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sebastian Bergmann schrieb: > > Bugger, I forgot that those two > > Just to clarify for those who do not know t

Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.1.0RC2

2005-09-15 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
Sebastian Bergmann schrieb: > Bugger, I forgot that those two Just to clarify for those who do not know that "Bugger" can be used a phrase along the lines of "Oh my God!": I did not call Marcus a bugger, which would be, given certain meanings of the word as a noun, really bad name calling. --

Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.1.0RC2

2005-09-15 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
Marcus Boerger schrieb: > honestly why do you want to prefix iterators? and secondly i'd be > just plain stupid to prefix the exception classes. Bugger, I forgot that those two (iterators and exceptions) are part of SPL for a second. They're so essential, IMHO, that I thought them part of the

Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.1.0RC2

2005-09-15 Thread Marcus Boerger
Hello Sebastian, honestly why do you want to prefix iterators? and secondly i'd be just plain stupid to prefix the exception classes. In the end we should move the exception classes into the engine anyways. But who cares what i say marcus Thursday, September 15, 2005, 2:08:53 PM, you wrote

Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.1.0RC2

2005-09-15 Thread Marcus Boerger
Hello Andi, hello Zeev, MFH and change towards class constants is done. The only part being new inside SPL now is the ability of spl's autoload to work with non static loader methods. Do you think i should move that into 5.1 as well? regards marcus Wednesday, September 14, 2005, 9:55:32 PM, yo

Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.1.0RC2

2005-09-15 Thread Marcus Boerger
Hello Sebastian, yeah uys piss me off :-) Thursday, September 15, 2005, 2:08:53 PM, you wrote: > Edin Kadribasic schrieb: >> Now, you claim they cannot be renamed due to the BC concerns > I think we should break BC for PHP 5.1 and prefix the existing classes > with SPL. This is better than

Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.1.0RC2

2005-09-15 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
Edin Kadribasic schrieb: > Now, you claim they cannot be renamed due to the BC concerns I think we should break BC for PHP 5.1 and prefix the existing classes with SPL. This is better than the current state in HEAD and PHP_5_1 which is inconsistent. Hopefully we will have namespaces in PHP 6.

Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.1.0RC2

2005-09-15 Thread Edin Kadribasic
Marcus Boerger wrote: > Hello Edin, > > well imho it makes no sense to prefix all the iterators with Spl and also > most of them are released already with 5.0. Changing those is to big of a BC > issue isn't it? I mean it is different from changing a few consts very > rarely used to class consts.

Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.1.0RC2

2005-09-14 Thread Antony Dovgal
On 14.09.2005 15:20, Zeev Suraski wrote: Any last minute additions to 5.1.0RC2 or can we roll it? If it's not too late I'd like to fix http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=34505 before RC2. It'll require addition of zend_unmangle_property_name_ex() and changing several files to use it instead of z

Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.1.0RC2

2005-09-14 Thread Pierre Joye
On 9/14/05, Uwe Schindler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No NEW problems on Solaris 9, only with latest 5.1 snapshot: > > * "make test" still does not work > * "make install" fails because some PEAR components are missing (see > mail of Pierre) Uwe, _you_ have to do it while testing from CVS :) Se

Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.1.0RC2

2005-09-14 Thread Marcus Boerger
Hello Edin, well imho it makes no sense to prefix all the iterators with Spl and also most of them are released already with 5.0. Changing those is to big of a BC issue isn't it? I mean it is different from changing a few consts very rarely used to class consts. marcus Wednesday, September 14,

Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.1.0RC2

2005-09-14 Thread Marcus Boerger
Hello Andi, ok, i am on it right now (the one answer was from today, i received it while i was typing the other). regards marcus Wednesday, September 14, 2005, 9:55:32 PM, you wrote: > I am sure I answered but I see Zeev has now (pretty much what I answered too > :) > At 07:39 AM 9/14/2005,

Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.1.0RC2

2005-09-14 Thread Andi Gutmans
I am sure I answered but I see Zeev has now (pretty much what I answered too :) At 07:39 AM 9/14/2005, Marcus Boerger wrote: Hello Zeev, i tried to get any feedback from You or andi regarding SPL but none of you replied so far. Question is whether i should rename some of the new interfaces an

Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.1.0RC2

2005-09-14 Thread Jani Taskinen
All fixed now. --Jani On Wed, 14 Sep 2005, Uwe Schindler wrote: At 16:18 14.09.2005, you wrote: On Wed, 14 Sep 2005, Uwe Schindler wrote: * "make test" still does not work Like..how? I posted this one month ago (other thread). It fails when calling "test" with an empty ex

Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.1.0RC2

2005-09-14 Thread Marcus Boerger
Hello Jessie, well the best solution would be to drop the 'Spl' prefix for 5.1 and wait for namespaces since they are imo the only solution. marcus Wednesday, September 14, 2005, 5:34:45 PM, you wrote: > I agree with Edin. To be consistent, either all interfaces and classes > should be prefi

RE: [PHP-DEV] namespaces (Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.1.0RC2)

2005-09-14 Thread David Zülke
> What is current status of a patch? It will be included? I really hope so (for PHP6, that is). Andi said he'd have a look at the patch some time ago. I'd love to know what he and the others "in charge" think about this matter. - David -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To

[PHP-DEV] namespaces (Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.1.0RC2)

2005-09-14 Thread Ondrej Ivanič
Jessie Hernandez wrote: This is one case where namespaces are useful. With my namespace patch, all that would have to be done is to name the class as SPL:Observer. Users can either implement SPL:Observer or first "import SPL:Observer;" and then implement Observer. Yes, this is a right task fo

Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.1.0RC2

2005-09-14 Thread Jani Taskinen
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005, Uwe Schindler wrote: At 16:18 14.09.2005, you wrote: /bin/sh: test: argument expected gmake: [test] Error 1 (ignored) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/install/php5-200509141230$ Do you know why this happens? :) (in Makefile, remove the -@ from the line below test:) * configur

Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.1.0RC2

2005-09-14 Thread Jessie Hernandez
I agree with Edin. To be consistent, either all interfaces and classes should be prefixed or none should be prefixed. On the other hand, prefixing all the old classes/interfaces will cause BC breaks. This is one case where namespaces are useful. With my namespace patch, all that would have to be

Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.1.0RC2

2005-09-14 Thread Marcus Boerger
Hello Zeev, phew i take a deep breathe and give my best marcus Wednesday, September 14, 2005, 4:45:32 PM, you wrote: > At 17:39 14/09/2005, Marcus Boerger wrote: >>Hello Zeev, >> >> i tried to get any feedback from You or andi regarding SPL but none of you >>replied so far. Question is whet

Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.1.0RC2

2005-09-14 Thread Edin Kadribasic
Marcus Boerger wrote: > Hello Zeev, > > i tried to get any feedback from You or andi regarding SPL but none of you > replied so far. Question is whether i should rename some of the new interfaces > and classes to be prefixed by 'Spl'. Also should i drop all constants in SPL > and instead provide

Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.1.0RC2

2005-09-14 Thread Uwe Schindler
At 16:18 14.09.2005, you wrote: On Wed, 14 Sep 2005, Uwe Schindler wrote: * "make test" still does not work Like..how? I posted this one month ago (other thread). It fails when calling "test" with an empty expression: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/install/php5-200509141230$ gmake test Build com

Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.1.0RC2

2005-09-14 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 17:39 14/09/2005, Marcus Boerger wrote: Hello Zeev, i tried to get any feedback from You or andi regarding SPL but none of you replied so far. Question is whether i should rename some of the new interfaces and classes to be prefixed by 'Spl'. Also should i drop all constants in SPL and inst

Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.1.0RC2

2005-09-14 Thread Marcus Boerger
Hello Zeev, i tried to get any feedback from You or andi regarding SPL but none of you replied so far. Question is whether i should rename some of the new interfaces and classes to be prefixed by 'Spl'. Also should i drop all constants in SPL and instead provide class constants whcih we can do r

Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.1.0RC2

2005-09-14 Thread Andi Gutmans
Yep, Observer and friends should be renamed to Spl*. At 04:20 AM 9/14/2005, Zeev Suraski wrote: Any last minute additions to 5.1.0RC2 or can we roll it? Zeev -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP Internals - PHP Run

Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.1.0RC2

2005-09-14 Thread Jani Taskinen
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005, Uwe Schindler wrote: * "make test" still does not work Like..how? * configure prints out a lot of garbage when testing for bison (which is missing on my solaris machine) And the garbage is..? --Jani -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List

Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.1.0RC2

2005-09-14 Thread Uwe Schindler
No NEW problems on Solaris 9, only with latest 5.1 snapshot: * "make test" still does not work * "make install" fails because some PEAR components are missing (see mail of Pierre) * configure prints out a lot of garbage when testing for bison (which is missing on my solaris machine) Uwe At 1

[PHP-DEV] 5.1.0RC2

2005-09-14 Thread Zeev Suraski
Any last minute additions to 5.1.0RC2 or can we roll it? Zeev -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php