Sebastian Bergmann wrote:
Can we bring the strings/hash table optimizations to PHP 5.3.x please?
Performance optimizations, especially major ones like the ones you
mention, should be treated the same as new features: they should not be
introduced in a minor version.
Give some of the
2010/8/19 Sebastian Bergmann sebast...@php.net:
Performance optimizations, especially major ones like the ones you
mention, should be treated the same as new features: they should not be
introduced in a minor version.
+ Most of such changes breaks ABI, which also is against our policies.
With Traits, interned strings/hash table optimizations, array deref.,
Can we bring the strings/hash table optimizations to PHP 5.3.x please?
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Am 19.08.2010 01:32, schrieb steve:
Can we bring the strings/hash table optimizations to PHP 5.3.x please?
Performance optimizations, especially major ones like the ones you
mention, should be treated the same as new features: they should not be
introduced in a minor version.
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On Tue Aug 10 07:42 PM, Josh Davis wrote:
Derick's point was about consistency. The approach described in his
mail is consistent with current syntax and mechanism(s). Current
typehints do not apply any kind of conversion, so treating scalar
hints the same way is consistent with the current
Greetings hackers
I spoke with Derick today, and we both agreed on releasing an alpha of
PHP 5.4 to show the public what we have been working since 5.3. We are
going to release an alpha at september 2nd, which meaning packaging is
going to happen on 1st September (SVN tag, Windows binaries, etc.)
On Wed, 2010-08-11 at 00:03 +0200, Kalle Sommer Nielsen wrote:
type hinting
For the record: I consider the current implementation as (one of) the
biggest mistakes in the last ten years.
johannes
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Total thumbs up on that.
http://schlueters.de/blog/archives/139-Scalar-type-hints-in-PHP-trunk.html
just tells it all. A total epic fail.
2010/8/11 Johannes Schlüter johan...@schlueters.de:
On Wed, 2010-08-11 at 00:03 +0200, Kalle Sommer Nielsen wrote:
type hinting
For the record: I consider
2010/8/11 Johannes Schlüterjohan...@schlueters.de:
On Wed, 2010-08-11 at 00:03 +0200, Kalle Sommer Nielsen wrote:
type hinting
For the record: I consider the current implementation as (one of) the
biggest mistakes in the last ten years.
Is there a summary of what we ended up with? I got so
On Wed, 11 Aug 2010, Johannes Schlüter wrote:
On Wed, 2010-08-11 at 00:03 +0200, Kalle Sommer Nielsen wrote:
type hinting
For the record: I consider the current implementation as (one of) the
biggest mistakes in the last ten years.
I will try to sum up my view point once more:
1. right
On 8/10/10 3:30 PM, Brian Moon wrote:
2010/8/11 Johannes Schlüterjohan...@schlueters.de:
On Wed, 2010-08-11 at 00:03 +0200, Kalle Sommer Nielsen wrote:
type hinting
For the record: I consider the current implementation as (one of) the
biggest mistakes in the last ten years.
Is there a
Hi!
With Traits, interned strings/hash table optimizations, array deref.,
type hinting, and more we both (me and Derick) belive we are ready for
Please do not call strict typing type hinting.
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Hi!
For the record: I consider the current implementation as (one of) the
biggest mistakes in the last ten years.
I agree completely. The fact that obvious absence of consensus is
ignored and we are releasing feature that clearly has no consensus
behind it as a part of an official release -
On Aug 10, 2010, at 3:11 PM, Johannes Schlüter wrote:
On Wed, 2010-08-11 at 00:03 +0200, Kalle Sommer Nielsen wrote:
type hinting
For the record: I consider the current implementation as (one of) the
biggest mistakes in the last ten years.
johannes
I'm happy to see a more strict
Well, the thing is objects and arrays are complex types, so you can't
pass anything exept array to an array type hint, it just dosen't make
sence. Not everything can be converted to array and vice-versa. Same
with objects - every object is it's own type.
But the primitive types behave
They aren't hints. It is strict typing and in its current form I would
ask you guys not to call the 5.4 release PHP. Because it won't be.
Fully agreed.
I'd suggest NoPHP. AntiPHP might also work.
- Sascha
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To
Derick's point was about consistency. The approach described in his
mail is consistent with current syntax and mechanism(s). Current
typehints do not apply any kind of conversion, so treating scalar
hints the same way is consistent with the current mechanism.
Reusing the typecasting syntax for
Hi!
Derick's point was about consistency. The approach described in his
mail is consistent with current syntax and mechanism(s). Current
No it is not. There's no functions that produce errors when fed 1
instead of boolean true - all internal functions convert.
typehints do not apply any
Yes, I understand the point of his post. But as you know - the perfect
world and the real world rearly meat together.
Just read the prevoius themes - majority was on the typecasting hints
for the primitive types. We even layed the rules quite in detail.
The thing is it will be pain in the ass to
On 11 August 2010 01:50, Stas Malyshev smalys...@sugarcrm.com wrote:
Hi!
Derick's point was about consistency. The approach described in his
mail is consistent with current syntax and mechanism(s). Current
No it is not. There's no functions that produce errors when fed 1 instead of
boolean
On 11 August 2010 02:13, Arvids Godjuks arvids.godj...@gmail.com wrote:
Remember the main PHP principle? KISS. So keep it, blody hell, simple!
Please try to realize that what you find simple may not appear as
simple to everybody else. To me, typechecking is very simple: if type
equals typehint
Sascha,
Does this mean @group authorizes use of NoPHP as a name for a
derivative PHP version (gotta ask according to the license) ? ;-)
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Sascha Schumann sas...@schumann.net wrote:
They aren't hints. It is strict typing and in its current form I would
ask you
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