Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: I quit.

2015-02-16 Thread Arvids Godjuks
To: internals@lists.php.net Subject: [PHP-DEV] Re: I quit. The 0.1 RFC version was mentioned a lot as a good compromise by many people and had major support. Any proposal to the scalar hints problem that doesn't definitively error out in the `(int) apple` case is a non-starter

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: I quit.

2015-02-16 Thread Daniel Lowrey
On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Arvids Godjuks arvids.godj...@gmail.com wrote: This bickering already jeopardized the type hinting RFC's how many times? 3 as I recall? Zeev was kind enough to reach out privately prior to your message and we began exchanged mails trying to better understand

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: I quit.

2015-02-16 Thread Sven Drieling
Am Mon, 16 Feb 2015 18:00:41 +0200 schrieb Arvids Godjuks arvids.godj...@gmail.com: Hallo, Right now we need a breakthrough event - get type hints into the language at all. The most sensible thing to do it is to add basic type hints that work like the current conversion rules, maybe add some

[PHP-DEV] Re: I quit.

2015-02-16 Thread Daniel Lowrey
The 0.1 RFC version was mentioned a lot as a good compromise by many people and had major support. People keep saying this like it's a thing, but I and others are vehemently opposed to this as a solution. The only thing weak hints accomplishes is the illusion of safety without actually

RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: I quit.

2015-02-16 Thread Zeev Suraski
-Original Message- From: rdlow...@gmail.com [mailto:rdlow...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Lowrey Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 5:13 PM To: internals@lists.php.net Subject: [PHP-DEV] Re: I quit. The 0.1 RFC version was mentioned a lot as a good compromise by many people

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: I quit.

2015-02-16 Thread Daniel Lowrey
On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Zeev Suraski z...@zend.com wrote: -Original Message- From: rdlow...@gmail.com [mailto:rdlow...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Lowrey Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 5:13 PM To: internals@lists.php.net Subject: [PHP-DEV] Re: I quit