Hey Dmitry, I noticed today that ZO+ doesn't make use of sapi_get_stat()
to get the initial stat struct from the sapi if available. So, if you
have top-level a.php that includes b.php and c.php you end up with:
stat(/var/www/a.php, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0664, st_size=49, ...}) = 0
stat(/var/www/a.php,
On 02/22/2013 07:57 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
Hey Dmitry, I noticed today that ZO+ doesn't make use of sapi_get_stat()
to get the initial stat struct from the sapi if available. So, if you
have top-level a.php that includes b.php and c.php you end up with:
stat(/var/www/a.php,
On 02/16/2013 01:10 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
On 02/16/2013 11:16 AM, Zeev Suraski wrote:
- Regarding name choice, here are some: ZopCache, Cachze, RunCachze.
Interesting names, I'm curious about pronunciation :)
I (mostly) pronounce cache the non-American way as kaysh. Cachze would be
On 02/18/2013 10:52 AM, Christopher Jones wrote:
I agree that unless we get Gopal-like inspiration (inclued, scream) for naming,
opcache is best.
In the so bad I can't resist sending it category is today's
semi-humorous name suggestion: Cajun. It sounds roughly like the
English
On Feb 18, 2013, at 23:03 , Christopher Jones christopher.jo...@oracle.com
wrote:
On 02/18/2013 10:52 AM, Christopher Jones wrote:
I agree that unless we get Gopal-like inspiration (inclued, scream) for
naming, opcache is best.
In the so bad I can't resist sending it category is
-Original Message-
From: Christopher Jones [mailto:christopher.jo...@oracle.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 12:54 AM
To: Zeev Suraski
Cc: PHP internals
Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] Zend Optimizer+ Source Code now available
Hi Zeev,
I think people are keen to see Optimizer
On 02/16/2013 11:16 AM, Zeev Suraski wrote:
- Regarding name choice, here are some: ZopCache, Cachze, RunCachze.
Interesting names, I'm curious about pronunciation :)
I don't think I would ever get neither the spelling nor the
pronunciation of Cachze right. I like the much simpler opcache
On 15/02/13 01:59, Stas Malyshev wrote:
(A) The op-code optimization should be integrated into the core compiler
and enabled through a GC(compiler_option) to be available to *any*
opcode cache -- or to the application designer (by exposing these
options through an INI directive.
Most
-Original Message-
From: Christopher Jones [mailto:christopher.jo...@oracle.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 9:25 PM
To: Zeev Suraski
Cc: PHP internals
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend Optimizer+ Source Code now available
On 02/14/2013 07:21 AM, Zeev Suraski wrote:
Great
Hi!
Put simply PHP extensions should only reference the APIs exposed in the
php headers. Zend has its own interface and extensions and since a Zend
Opcode cache is SO intimately coupled with the Zend environment it makes
sense to use a Zend extension to implement this. The whole idea of
Hi Zeev,
I think people are keen to see Optimizer+ merged. Hopefully the RFC
can set expectations clear on what the short-term steps will be, and
what the bigger picture might look like. The middle-term tasks will
then work themselves out as we get to them (in true PHP fashion)
- What does
Great to see.
The README covers much of the content (and in more detail) that I
previously
wanted to see in the RFC.
Excellent!
There are some things still missing from the RFC, though:
- do you see Optimizer+ being enabled (if not in PECL) or disabled by
default, etc.
I *think*
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Zeev Suraski z...@zend.com wrote:
O+ does perform some optimizations in addition to caching code, in a pretty
sophisticated manner actually (block optimizations). Optimizations - which
can be expensive to carry out - are definitely a good fit with an opcode
Zeev Suraski in php.internals (Thu, 14 Feb 2013 17:21:48 +0200):
I think the only open question is integration with other modules, most
notably debuggers.
php_ZendOptimizerPlus.dll and php_xdebug.dll loaded both together in PHP
5.3 and PHP 5.4 (x86, TS and NTS). I do not know yet if there are any
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Zeev Suraski z...@zend.com wrote:
- Should the name reflect the code's main purpose (op-code caching),
and allowing a future use of optimizer for a more sophisticated
optimizer implementation? Or do you see Optimizer+ being the
framework for
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Nikita Popov nikita@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Zeev Suraski z...@zend.com wrote:
- Should the name reflect the code's main purpose (op-code caching),
and allowing a future use of optimizer for a more sophisticated
On 02/14/2013 10:55 AM, Jan Ehrhardt wrote:
Zeev Suraski in php.internals (Thu, 14 Feb 2013 17:21:48 +0200):
I think the only open question is integration with other modules, most
notably debuggers.
php_ZendOptimizerPlus.dll and php_xdebug.dll loaded both together in PHP
5.3 and PHP 5.4
Rasmus Lerdorf in php.internals (Thu, 14 Feb 2013 11:14:20 -0500):
On 02/14/2013 10:55 AM, Jan Ehrhardt wrote:
Zeev Suraski in php.internals (Thu, 14 Feb 2013 17:21:48 +0200):
I think the only open question is integration with other modules, most
notably debuggers.
php_ZendOptimizerPlus.dll
On 02/14/2013 11:21 AM, Jan Ehrhardt wrote:
Rasmus Lerdorf in php.internals (Thu, 14 Feb 2013 11:14:20 -0500):
On 02/14/2013 10:55 AM, Jan Ehrhardt wrote:
Zeev Suraski in php.internals (Thu, 14 Feb 2013 17:21:48 +0200):
I think the only open question is integration with other modules, most
Rasmus Lerdorf in php.internals (Thu, 14 Feb 2013 11:32:55 -0500):
Make sure you load ZO before xdebug and it seems to work ok. If you load
xdebug first you will run into interesting problems.
Most things work fine, but I hit a weird segfault in some complicated
code which I fixed by flipping
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf ras...@lerdorf.com wrote:
On 02/14/2013 11:21 AM, Jan Ehrhardt wrote:
Rasmus Lerdorf in php.internals (Thu, 14 Feb 2013 11:14:20 -0500):
On 02/14/2013 10:55 AM, Jan Ehrhardt wrote:
Zeev Suraski in php.internals (Thu, 14 Feb 2013 17:21:48
On 02/14/2013 08:02 AM, Nikita Popov wrote:
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Zeev Suraski z...@zend.com
mailto:z...@zend.com wrote:
- Should the name reflect the code's main purpose (op-code caching),
and allowing a future use of optimizer for a more sophisticated
Hi!
Well, if it does block-level optimizations, that is already enough to
make it useful for CLI-scripts, as even though caching is not relevant
for long-running processes, optimizations should make things faster.
For most scripts, optimizations are not really worth it unless you run
the same
On Thursday 14 February 2013 10:24:22 Stas Malyshev wrote:
For most scripts, optimizations are not really worth it unless you run
the same code over and over, so for CLI it would be noticeable only if
you run long-running CPU-intensive server.
Apart from the long-running servers, there is
On 02/14/2013 07:21 AM, Zeev Suraski wrote:
Great to see.
The README covers much of the content (and in more detail) that I
previously
wanted to see in the RFC.
Excellent!
There are some things still missing from the RFC, though:
- do you see Optimizer+ being enabled (if not in PECL)
On 14/02/13 18:24, Stas Malyshev wrote:
Are optimizations documented?
Not yet AFAIK.
No, but they are pretty self-explanatory. O+ is a _Zend_ extension
rather than a _PHP_ extension and this enables it to exploit extra
hooks (see the tail of ZendAccelerator.c) and specifically follow
Hi!
(A) The op-code optimization should be integrated into the core compiler
and enabled through a GC(compiler_option) to be available to *any*
opcode cache -- or to the application designer (by exposing these
options through an INI directive.
Most optimizations would not give perceivable
That's a good idea :) I'm also in
On 13 February 2013 09:51, Zeev Suraski z...@zend.com wrote:
As per Derick’s idea, we can arrange a webinar for those interested in
better understanding how it works.
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Zeev Suraski z...@zend.com wrote:
As per Derick’s idea, we can arrange a webinar for those interested in
better understanding how it works. Note that this will not be a webinar
for the faint of heart – opcode caches are complicated pieces of software;
Le 13/02/2013 15:51, Zeev Suraski a écrit :
https://github.com/zend-dev/ZendOptimizerPlus/
Great News !
Do you know if any control panel (like the one provided with APC)
already exists ?
I notice accelerator_reset, accelerator_get_configuration and
accelerator_get_status functions, so should
Hi,
I tried to install the ZendOptimizer+ provided earlier today but wasn't
able to make it work. I compiled it with success but when I looked at the
phpinfo(); I had this :
Opcode Caching Disabled
Optimization Enabled
Startup Failed no value
I'm using the apache2handler (MPM Worker -
hi,
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Zeev Suraski z...@zend.com wrote:
For those willing to play with it on Windows, here are the bins for 5.5/VC11
https://twitter.com/PierreJoye/status/301946818835652608
5.3/5.4/5.5 VC9 are coming.
Cheers,
--
Pierre
@pierrejoye
--
PHP Internals - PHP
Hi Pierrick,
We didn't use ZTS in Zend commercial products, so it wasn't tested for a
long time.
O+ may definitely have some ZTS related problems.
Please, report an issue at
https://github.com/zend-dev/ZendOptimizerPlus/issues
I'll look into it later
Thanks. Dmitry.
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