Re: [PHP-DEV] no read-only, no moderation, just a simple self-enforced checklist

2008-01-10 Thread Derick Rethans
On Thu, 13 Dec 2007, Gregory Beaver wrote: We don't need moderation, we don't need read-only. We need people to follow a simple common-sense checklist. It's either that nobody saw this mail, or chose to ignore it. Obviously, nothing changed and I'm getting sick and tired of all this crap on

Re: [PHP-DEV] no read-only, no moderation, just a simple self-enforced checklist

2008-01-10 Thread Ilia Alshanetsky
On 10-Jan-08, at 10:33 AM, Derick Rethans wrote: On Thu, 13 Dec 2007, Gregory Beaver wrote: We don't need moderation, we don't need read-only. We need people to follow a simple common-sense checklist. It's either that nobody saw this mail, or chose to ignore it. Obviously, nothing

Re: [PHP-DEV] no read-only, no moderation, just a simple self-enforced checklist

2008-01-10 Thread Antony Dovgal
On 10.01.2008 18:33, Derick Rethans wrote: On Thu, 13 Dec 2007, Gregory Beaver wrote: We don't need moderation, we don't need read-only. We need people to follow a simple common-sense checklist. It's either that nobody saw this mail, or chose to ignore it. Obviously, nothing changed and

Re: [PHP-DEV] no read-only, no moderation, just a simple self-enforced checklist

2008-01-10 Thread Marco Tabini
On 10-Jan-08, at 10:58 AM, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: I know that PHP has so far stayed clear of processes and I am fine with keeping it this way. But I really think that some of these flames should best be taken off list into some work group that provides summaries at semi regular

Re: [PHP-DEV] no read-only, no moderation, just a simple self-enforced checklist

2008-01-10 Thread Lukas Kahwe Smith
On Jan 10, 2008, at 4:51 PM, Ilia Alshanetsky wrote: On 10-Jan-08, at 10:33 AM, Derick Rethans wrote: On Thu, 13 Dec 2007, Gregory Beaver wrote: We don't need moderation, we don't need read-only. We need people to follow a simple common-sense checklist. It's either that nobody saw

Re: [PHP-DEV] no read-only, no moderation, just a simple self-enforced checklist

2008-01-10 Thread Lukas Kahwe Smith
On Jan 10, 2008, at 4:55 PM, Antony Dovgal wrote: On 10.01.2008 18:33, Derick Rethans wrote: On Thu, 13 Dec 2007, Gregory Beaver wrote: We don't need moderation, we don't need read-only. We need people to follow a simple common-sense checklist. It's either that nobody saw this mail, or

Re: [PHP-DEV] no read-only, no moderation, just a simple self-enforced checklist

2008-01-10 Thread Gregory Beaver
Marco Tabini wrote: On 10-Jan-08, at 10:58 AM, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: I know that PHP has so far stayed clear of processes and I am fine with keeping it this way. But I really think that some of these flames should best be taken off list into some work group that provides summaries at

Re: [PHP-DEV] no read-only, no moderation, just a simple self-enforced checklist

2008-01-10 Thread Jon Parise
On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 04:14:46PM -0600, Gregory Beaver wrote: At the very least, some kind of centralized RFC tracker (like PEAR's PEPr for package proposals) would be a potential way to track features that would introduce slightly more work (another thing to maintain at php.net for web

Re: [PHP-DEV] no read-only, no moderation, just a simple self-enforced checklist

2008-01-10 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
At the very least, some kind of centralized RFC tracker (like PEAR's PEPr for package proposals) would be a potential way to track features Maybe just for the start create a wiki or something that people could put their RFCs to and edit them, and then hopefully somebody would step up to

[PHP-DEV] no read-only, no moderation, just a simple self-enforced checklist

2007-12-13 Thread Gregory Beaver
Hi, We don't need moderation, we don't need read-only. We need people to follow a simple common-sense checklist. Before sending a message to php-internals, ask these questions of yourself: 1) am I angry? yes = do not send your message, do not pass go, do not collect $200. Wait until tomorrow.