Hi,
> -Original Message-
> From: Stanislav Malyshev
> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 8:55 PM
> To: Sara Golemon ; PHP internals
> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] On not rushing things at the last minute
>
> Hi!
>
> > I'm disappointed by the last minute kitchen-sink dump of RFCs being
> > raised,
On 10/07/2018 14:10, Sara Golemon wrote:
What are the causes?
I have noticed three approximate (and overlapping) categories of late RFC:
1) Submarine features: Features which have been developed over a long
period, but where the author wanted to get things polished before
formally
Hi!
> I'm disappointed by the last minute kitchen-sink dump of RFCs being
> raised, rushed through discussion, and voted on with minimal periods.
> While I'm all for delivering useful features to end users, I don't
> want us to get in the habit of seeing months of quiet followed by
> weeks of
Hi,
On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 4:10 PM, Sara Golemon wrote:
> I'm disappointed by the last minute kitchen-sink dump of RFCs being
> raised, rushed through discussion, and voted on with minimal periods.
> While I'm all for delivering useful features to end users, I don't
> want us to get in the
Den tir. 10. jul. 2018 kl. 17.26 skrev Dustin Wheeler :
> I'm relatively new to all of this. I think it's a bit strange to
> earmark a minor release as deprecation-only, but I also wasn't around
> for the last major upgrade to see discussion (was 5.6 the focus of
> many deprecations?)
Afair then
On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 1:43 PM Sara Golemon wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 9:26 AM, Dustin Wheeler wrote:
> > That said, if feature freeze for a release is announced well in
> > advance, published,
> >
> Depends on what you consider a proper announcement[1], but it is
> published[2] and the
On 7/10/2018 6:10 AM, Sara Golemon wrote:
I'm disappointed by the last minute kitchen-sink dump of RFCs being
raised, rushed through discussion, and voted on with minimal periods.
While I'm all for delivering useful features to end users, I don't
want us to get in the habit of seeing months of
On 10 July 2018 at 15:26, Dustin Wheeler wrote:
*snip*
> Personally (for Class Friendship), I opted to target either 7.4 or 8.0
> (whichever was decided to be next-in-line)
>
Seems to me this is one of the issues - that this is something that isn't
just set in stone. If there was an overall
On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 9:26 AM, Dustin Wheeler wrote:
> That said, if feature freeze for a release is announced well in
> advance, published,
>
Depends on what you consider a proper announcement[1], but it is
published[2] and the date can reliably be expected to occur around
mid-July until and
>
> We don't need to solve this now, this week, because there are plenty
> of rushed, last-minute proposals on the table already. But I'd like
> folks to start thinking about this and ways we can mitigate this
> problem come future releases.
>
> -Sara
>
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