Re: [PHP-DEV] Upgrading to internal DateTime

2008-12-05 Thread Derick Rethans
On Fri, 5 Dec 2008, Lester Caine wrote: > First question. > Why are there two different formats for dates with date creation using one > format and everything else using strftime formatting? Don't understand what you mean by this. > ( Slipping a date through DateTime and returning it DATE_W3C se

Re: [PHP-DEV] Upgrading to internal DateTime

2008-12-05 Thread Karsten Dambekalns
Hi Derick. Derick Rethans wrote: This is not the correct thing to do, as you will lose timezone information. The W3C format only stores UTC offsets (in the form of +00:00). However, that same UTC offset can be used in different areas with different DST changes. Best thing is to store in Unix t

Re: [PHP-DEV] Upgrading to internal DateTime

2008-12-05 Thread Robin Burchell
A unix timestamp is in UTC, offsets are stored and applied seperately. See tzset(3). Unless someone has misconfigured their system, that is. On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 10:16 AM, Karsten Dambekalns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Derick. > > Derick Rethans wrote: >> >> This is not the correct thing t

RE: [PHP-DEV] Upgrading to internal DateTime

2008-12-05 Thread Jared Williams
> -Original Message- > From: Lester Caine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 05 December 2008 06:24 > To: internals@lists.php.net > Subject: [PHP-DEV] Upgrading to internal DateTime > > OK I spent yesterday working trough some of the > idiosyncrasies of DateTime and having had a sleep

Re: [PHP-DEV] Upgrading to internal DateTime

2008-12-05 Thread Jochem Maas
hi Derick, Derick Rethans schreef: > On Fri, 5 Dec 2008, Lester Caine wrote: > ... >> Second question. >> What is the current situation on translating dates? I've tried several ways >> of >> using setlocale, but at present I've not been able to get anything other than >> English out of the cod

Re: [PHP-DEV] Upgrading to internal DateTime

2008-12-05 Thread Derick Rethans
On Fri, 5 Dec 2008, Jochem Maas wrote: > vrijdag, 05 december 2008 > Fri, December 2008 > > having to use format("U") ?> seems wrong, having > something like getTimeStamp() ?> would seem better. > > Am I missing something? or is there actually a limitation in DateTime > that should/will be addre

Re: [PHP-DEV] Upgrading to internal DateTime

2008-12-05 Thread Lester Caine
Derick Rethans wrote: On Fri, 5 Dec 2008, Lester Caine wrote: First question. Why are there two different formats for dates with date creation using one format and everything else using strftime formatting? Don't understand what you mean by this. http://uk.php.net/manual/en/function.strftim

Re: [PHP-DEV] Upgrading to internal DateTime

2008-12-05 Thread Lester Caine
Derick Rethans wrote: ( Slipping a date through DateTime and returning it DATE_W3C seems to be adding the correct daylight saving details so far and allowing ADOdb date to work ) This is not the correct thing to do, as you will lose timezone information. The W3C format only stores UTC offsets

RE: [PHP-DEV] Upgrading to internal DateTime

2008-12-09 Thread Jonathan Bond-Caron
On Sat Dec 6 12:09 AM, Lester Caine wrote: > Derick Rethans wrote: > >> ( Slipping a date through DateTime and returning it DATE_W3C seems > to > >> be adding the correct daylight saving details so far and allowing > >> ADOdb date to work ) > > > > This is not the correct thing to do, as you will

Re: [PHP-DEV] Upgrading to internal DateTime

2008-12-10 Thread Paweł Stradomski
W liście Jonathan Bond-Caron z dnia wtorek 09 grudnia 2008: > Unix timestamps are simpler since you know they are always in UTC. > > Just thought I'd raise that there's nothing wrong with storing all dates as > ISO in a given timezone. It takes a little more work but if your > consistent, it can m