Re: PPP and VLAN link-local addresses

2002-02-20 Thread Robert Elz
Date:Thu, 21 Feb 2002 12:41:50 +1300 From:"Sean Lin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <005d01c1ba68$2b360450$4e07a8c0@tukia> I don't think there is a lot of point having this discussion again, so this will be my last message about it, but ... | I mean from the other

Re: PPP and VLAN link-local addresses

2002-02-20 Thread Sean Lin
> > | I was wondering if this has been mentioned before. > > It has been discussed before. It is a truly wonderful idea... > > If it could be done, there'd be no adverse effects, the problem > is how the extra identifier gets distributed to the nodes. Your > average system has no idea what i

Re: ip6.arpa: bit-string labels with prefix lengths not on 4 bit boundaries

2002-02-20 Thread Mark . Andrews
> > > --On Wednesday, February 20, 2002 04:30:24 PM +0700 Robert Elz > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Date:Wed, 20 Feb 2002 09:16:10 +0100 > > From:Peter Bieringer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Message-ID: <4490.1014192970@localhost> > > > > | BTW: looks like th

Re: Proxy ARP Under IPv6

2002-02-20 Thread Greg Daley
Hi Dave, Neighbour Discovery is used for this Please read RFC2461 for details. Greg Daley IETF IPng Working Group Mailing List IPng Home Page: http://playground.s

Re: Proxy ARP Under IPv6

2002-02-20 Thread Pekka Savola
On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, Dave Saunders wrote: > What is the equivalent solution to Proxy ARP under IPv6? I am working on > a system that needs to have a single interface collect packets that are > not necessarily destined for it. Proxy Neighbour Advertisements, see RFC2461 7.2.8 etc. -- Pekka Savol

RE: PPP and Global Addresses

2002-02-20 Thread Pekka Savola
On Fri, 15 Feb 2002, NOISETTE Yoann FTRD/DMI/CAE wrote: > "PD (Automatic Prefix Delegation)" doesn't specify any means to set the > prefix pool the routers rely on for delegation, apart from a manual setting. > The DHCPv6 option could be used in this aim, and would be therefore > complementary to

Re: Ipv6 Arp

2002-02-20 Thread Lilian Fernandes
IPV6 defines the Neighbor Discovery process to do this. See RFC2461. Lilian On Wed, 13 Feb 2002, Digambar Rasal wrote: > Hi, > > We have presently a system in which we are using IPv4 and now we are implementating >IPv6 . But the problem i have come across is how we are going to change the AR

Re: Ipv6 Arp

2002-02-20 Thread Pekka Savola
On Wed, 13 Feb 2002, Digambar Rasal wrote: > We have presently a system in which we are using IPv4 and now we are > implementating IPv6 . But the problem i have come across is how we are > going to change the ARP process. I mean can we use ARP with new 16 byte > ipaddresses or we have to use some

Proxy ARP Under IPv6

2002-02-20 Thread Dave Saunders
What is the equivalent solution to Proxy ARP under IPv6? I am working on a system that needs to have a single interface collect packets that are not necessarily destined for it.   Thanks, Dave  

RE: PPP and Global Addresses

2002-02-20 Thread BINET David FTRD/DMI/CAE
Title: RE: PPP and Global Addresses I did not attend the IPng meeting in May 2001 in Redmond and in the minutes I do not see the reasons why DHCPv6 protocol is not appropriate for router prefix delegation. For several contexts, I think that we need some protocols or some extensions to make th

RE: PPP and Global Addresses

2002-02-20 Thread NOISETTE Yoann FTRD/DMI/CAE
Title: RE: PPP and Global Addresses "PD (Automatic Prefix Delegation)" doesn't specify any means to set the prefix pool the routers rely on for delegation, apart from a manual setting. The DHCPv6 option could be used in this aim, and would be therefore complementary to PD... Moreover PD also

Ipv6 Arp

2002-02-20 Thread Digambar Rasal
Hi,   We have presently a system in which we are using IPv4 and now  we are implementating IPv6 . But the problem i have come across is how we are going to change the ARP process. I mean can we use ARP with new 16 byte ipaddresses or we have to use some other process for address resolution?

RE: I-D ACTION:draft-savola-ipv6-127-prefixlen-00.txt (fwd)

2002-02-20 Thread Dan Lanciani
Michel Py" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: |> Dan Lanciani wrote: |> An obvious reason would be that the one who wishes to subnet |> the /64 is not the same one who should have used a /48, with |> the former one having little control over the latter one. | |A dial-up connection gets a /48. It's n

Last Call for draft-ietf-ipv6-3gpp-recommend-00.txt?

2002-02-20 Thread Margaret Wasserman
Hi All, The 3GPP design team believes that draft-ietf-ipv6-3gpp-recommend-00.txt is ready for last call as an Informational RFC. This draft has undergone a couple of rounds of WG review, and the 3GPP is already acting on its contents. Bob and Steve, if there are no objections from t

Re: ip6.arpa: bit-string labels with prefix lengths not on 4bit boundaries

2002-02-20 Thread Peter Bieringer
--On Wednesday, February 20, 2002 04:30:24 PM +0700 Robert Elz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Date:Wed, 20 Feb 2002 09:16:10 +0100 > From:Peter Bieringer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Message-ID: <4490.1014192970@localhost> > > | BTW: looks like the same problem occurs

Re: summary of necessary changes for rfc2292bis

2002-02-20 Thread Vladislav Yasevich
JINMEI Tatuya / $B?@L@C#:H(B wrote: > > Oops, I oversimplified this item. It should have been: > > if the ipi6_addr member for IPV6_PKTINFO on a TCP socket is non the > unspecified address, the call should fail. > OK. That works for me. Thanks -vlad +

Re: PPP and Global Addresses

2002-02-20 Thread Yamasaki Toshi
> PS: the conclusion is we should specify/finish/implement/deploy router > mechanisms ASAP, at least before IPv6 dialups become common. I absolutely agree. My current conclusion among exsitsing choices is: - APD for a customer whose CPE is a L3 Router - RA(+RFC2462, 3041, etc.) for a customer who

Re: PPP and Global Addresses

2002-02-20 Thread Yamasaki Toshi
Ah, now I understand what you mean. Excuse my slow brain :-) In my scenario for Dial-up or DSL access services, some kind of L2 authentication, CHAP or 802.1x for example, runs before AutomaticPrefixDelegation, and the delegating router gets a prefix from Authentication server, Radius for example

Re: summary of necessary changes for rfc2292bis

2002-02-20 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / $B?@L@C#:H(B
> On Wed, 20 Feb 2002 10:32:59 -0500, > Vladislav Yasevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> - 6.2: IPV6_PKTINFO should be forbidden for TCP > ... > I guess I missed the discussion above the above bullet. I > don't believe it should be explicitely forbidden. Specifying > the outgoing inter

Re: Configuring Routers

2002-02-20 Thread Randy Bush
> You answered all the questions in Bob's note except this one. > And it is the most important one. :) >>> To bring this back to the thread, do you think there is a need for a >>> protocol here or are the current solutions adequate? no. i answered it. essentially, it may be worthwhile, but unde

Re: Configuring Routers

2002-02-20 Thread Bob Hinden
Randy, >i suspect/hope that 20 years from now we will understand a lot more about >infrastructure topology discovery and construction, accompanied by solid >underlying theory, and will view this discussion as pretty primitive. of >course, we have to live in today. but we should refrain from bei

Re: Configuring Routers

2002-02-20 Thread Randy Bush
>> there are isps where a human never types at a router (except to debug) and >> all configuration is programatically generated from enterprise and customer >> data entered by folk from sales to provisioning to address admin through >> sexy gui interfaces. the canonic configuration is the data in

Re: Configuring Routers

2002-02-20 Thread Bob Hinden
Randy, At 05:40 PM 2/19/2002, Randy Bush wrote: >there are isps where a human never types at a router (except to debug) and >all configuration is programatically generated from enterprise and customer >data entered by folk from sales to provisioning to address admin through >sexy gui interfaces.

test... please ignore

2002-02-20 Thread Vladislav Yasevich
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Re: summary of necessary changes for rfc2292bis

2002-02-20 Thread Vladislav Yasevich
JINMEI Tatuya wrote: ... > - 6.2: IPV6_PKTINFO should be forbidden for TCP ... I guess I missed the discussion above the above bullet. I don't believe it should be explicitely forbidden. Specifying the outgoing interface may be a useful feature. -vlad ++

summary of necessary changes for rfc2292bis

2002-02-20 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / $B?@L@C#:H(B
There seems to be no further arguments on the rfc2292bis draft. The followings are a summary of necessary changes to the latest (05) revision of the draft (as far as I understand): - 6.1: add a forward reference to Section 6.7 about the outgoing interface selection - 6.2: IPV6_PKTINFO sho

Re: IPv6 w.g. Last Call on "Advanced Sockets API for IPv6"

2002-02-20 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / $B?@L@C#:H(B
> On Wed, 13 Feb 2002 14:15:41 -0500, > Vladislav Yasevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> >> - 11.2: I share Vladislav's concerns (the MTU stuff is a bit too complex) >> >> >Do you mean the send() message should return an (immediate) error when >> >the packet is not fit in the out

Re: PPP and Global Addresses

2002-02-20 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: A point was made at the interim meeting (by Tony Hain, I believe, although I trust my memory less now) that it would be prudent of us to ensure that the ISP connection procedure for single hosts vs. routers is identical. Otherwise, providers will be m

Re: Configuring Routers

2002-02-20 Thread Pekka Savola
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Robert Elz wrote: > It could just be that people believe that the only way to ever configure > a router is manually, and that any protocol to automate the process is > necessarily flawed. If so, I'd like to understand why, but I think I'd > tend to ignore that sentiment - ot

Re: ip6.arpa: bit-string labels with prefix lengths not on 4 bit boundaries

2002-02-20 Thread Robert Elz
Date:Wed, 20 Feb 2002 09:16:10 +0100 From:Peter Bieringer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <4490.1014192970@localhost> | BTW: looks like the same problem occurs in the forward chaining using | A6. I'm not sure if there's a problem with alignment in bitstring (

Re: ip6.arpa: bit-string labels with prefix lengths not on 4 bitboundaries

2002-02-20 Thread Pekka Savola
On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, Peter Bieringer wrote: > --On Wednesday, February 20, 2002 12:05:27 AM -0800 David Terrell > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 10:44:03PM +0100, Peter Bieringer wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> during implementing bit-string label support in "ipv6calc" I run

Re: ip6.arpa: bit-string labels with prefix lengths not on 4bit boundaries

2002-02-20 Thread Peter Bieringer
--On Wednesday, February 20, 2002 12:05:27 AM -0800 David Terrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 10:44:03PM +0100, Peter Bieringer wrote: >> Hi, >> >> during implementing bit-string label support in "ipv6calc" I run >> (for me) into a problem and found no example. > > Sav