Re: A use for site local addresses?

2003-03-25 Thread Quality Quorum
On Tue, 25 Mar 2003, Kurt Erik Lindqvist wrote: The same people are also trying to understand why a number of applications doesn't work in their network and how come that trojan send their password file to a unknown destination. Private addresses comes at a cost that is becoming more and

Re: A use for site local addresses?

2003-03-25 Thread Quality Quorum
On Tue, 25 Mar 2003, Kurt Erik Lindqvist wrote: The same people are also trying to understand why a number of applications doesn't work in their network and how come that trojan send their password file to a unknown destination. Private addresses comes at a cost that is becoming more

RE: avoiding NAT with IPv6

2003-03-21 Thread Quality Quorum
On Fri, 21 Mar 2003, Jeroen Massar wrote: You are avoiding the fact that 'organizations' (the people getting /48's) get that /48 out of a /32 from their upstream and that the routing table _should_ be filtered on those boundaries And how many /48s are in /32 ? Maybe you could take a look

RE: avoiding NAT with IPv6

2003-03-21 Thread Quality Quorum
On Fri, 21 Mar 2003, Jeroen Massar wrote: Jeroen Massar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quality Quorum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 21 Mar 2003, Jeroen Massar wrote: You are avoiding the fact that 'organizations' (the people getting /48's) get that /48 out of a /32

Re: avoiding NAT with IPv6

2003-03-20 Thread Quality Quorum
On Thu, 20 Mar 2003, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: After the today's decision with site local, is clear to me that we don't want to have NAT happening again ;-) We know that the people will do it anyway, but we must do an effort to avoid is as much as possible, and some ideas that could

RE: avoiding NAT with IPv6

2003-03-20 Thread Quality Quorum
On Thu, 20 Mar 2003, Michel Py wrote: Aleksey wrote: BTW, I prepared a draft which spells out NAT6 If you're tired of life, there probably are better ways to go than being lynched by a crowd of IETFers. Ever heard about SNMP wars? I highly doubt that by now there is so much fire left

Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-ipv6-unicast-aggr-v2-02.txt

2003-03-05 Thread Quality Quorum
On Wed, 5 Mar 2003, Pekka Savola wrote: On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Quality Quorum wrote: The problem here is software implementation of longest prefix match. Up to this point it was limited to a few TLAs with 48 bits which was quite doable in software, this draft expands it to 61 Note

Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-ipv6-unicast-aggr-v2-02.txt

2003-03-05 Thread Quality Quorum
On Wed, 5 Mar 2003, Brian E Carpenter wrote: I suppose 125-bit LPM will significantly slow down acceptance of ipv6. I suppose that v6 will benefit from administrative steps setting limits on LPM, at least for transitional period. I'd agree, that is why the /64 boundary is so

Re: DRAFT: Agenda Announcement

2003-03-04 Thread Quality Quorum
On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Bob Hinden Margaret Wasserman wrote: The IPv6 working group has two session at the San Francisco IETF meeting. They are: MONDAY, March 17, 2003, 1930-2200 THURSDAY, March 20, 2003, 0900-1130 There are several important topics to which we will devote

Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-ipv6-unicast-aggr-v2-02.txt

2003-03-04 Thread Quality Quorum
One substantial point I'd like to see more discussion on is whether folks feel that Address Format section, mainly restating what addr-arch-v3-11 says on 64 bit IID's, seems like the right thing to do in this document? I think this point was brought up by at least Thomas Narten and others,

Re: Enforcing unreachability of site local addresses

2003-01-28 Thread Quality Quorum
Quality Quorum wrote: ... ...The thing which is doable is to assign moveable transport-bound addresses + independent non-globally-visible and non-globally unique permanent local addresses + NAT, with DNS names being the only fixed points in this permanently shifting environment. As I