Re: Consensus on Site-Local Discussion

2002-06-30 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: The IPv6 working group chairs reading of the mailing list discussion regarding removing site-local addresses from the IPv6 architecture is that there is not a consensus to make this change. From the email discussion we also believe there is a

Re: Consensus on Site-Local Discussion

2002-06-24 Thread Erik Nordmark
the introduction of scoped addresses into the Internet architecture has caused several problems for apps which are difficult to solve . even if there's not consensus to do away with them entirely, we need to understand how to minimize the damage, and that probably means minimizing the use

Re: Consensus on Site-Local Discussion

2002-06-24 Thread Keith Moore
Would it make sense to add the issues that limited-scoped addresses create for applications as issues to the scoped address architecture? maybe, but it's an issue for both v4 and v6, and it ties in with issues related to limited-duration addresses. it's kind of a mess, actually, both in that

Re: Consensus on Site-Local Discussion

2002-06-24 Thread Thomas Narten
Keith, I don't agree that the Default Address Selection document should be published without change, and I don't think we have consensus on that at all. though perhaps the sections on SL are okay. (not sure what you meant here by no change) Could you please be clear on what you mean above?

RE: Consensus on Site-Local Discussion

2002-06-22 Thread john . loughney
Hi Bob Tim, What I would like to see come out of this long discussion is simply some text in the in progress Node Requirements document that specifies how much of the scoped address architecture MUST be implemented and that that text would say that the rules specified in Draves'

Consensus on Site-Local Discussion

2002-06-21 Thread Bob Hinden
The IPv6 working group chairs reading of the mailing list discussion regarding removing site-local addresses from the IPv6 architecture is that there is not a consensus to make this change. From the email discussion we also believe there is a consensus to not require IPv6 implementations to

RE: Consensus on Site-Local Discussion

2002-06-21 Thread Michel Py
Bob Hinden wrote: The IPv6 working group chairs reading of the mailing list discussion [snip] I am in agreement with the chair's reading of this. Time to move on. Michel. IETF IPng Working Group Mailing List IPng Home

Re: Consensus on Site-Local Discussion

2002-06-21 Thread Keith Moore
I agree that there's probably not consensus to deprecate SL, but I think we should consider finding ways to discourage its use, and to remove the burden from apps of having to support it specially. I don't agree that the Default Address Selection document should be published without change, and

Re: Consensus on Site-Local Discussion

2002-06-21 Thread Bob Hinden
Keith, At 09:29 AM 6/21/2002, Keith Moore wrote: I agree that there's probably not consensus to deprecate SL, but I think we should consider finding ways to discourage its use, and to remove the burden from apps of having to support it specially. I don't agree that the Default Address Selection

Re: Consensus on Site-Local Discussion

2002-06-21 Thread Keith Moore
the introduction of scoped addresses into the Internet architecture has caused several problems for apps which are difficult to solve . even if there's not consensus to do away with them entirely, we need to understand how to minimize the damage, and that probably means minimizing the use of

Re: Consensus on Site-Local Discussion

2002-06-21 Thread Brian Haberman
Keith, Keith Moore wrote: in other words, I think we need to seriously question some of the assumptions behind the scoped addressing architecture, and I'm not confident that completing the work on the Scoped Address Architecture document will accomplish that. Can you enumerate what

Re: Consensus on Site-Local Discussion

2002-06-21 Thread Keith Moore
Can you enumerate what assumptions you are concerned about? That would give us the authors a better understanding of your concerns. I've about decided to write up an I-D before 9 AM Monday on this topic, but here's the capsule summary: the basic problem with limited-scope addresses is that

Re: Consensus on Site-Local Discussion

2002-06-21 Thread Margaret Wasserman
At 05:21 PM 6/21/02 , Keith Moore wrote: Can you enumerate what assumptions you are concerned about? That would give us the authors a better understanding of your concerns. I've about decided to write up an I-D before 9 AM Monday on this topic, but here's the capsule summary: It would be